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    New and changed Dead Apostle Ancestors in the Remake

    Nasu revealed that he is going to update and upgrade a bunch of DAA, making them more powerful, and replacing some of the outdated ones.

    I think these ones are guaranteed to stay:
    1. Primate Murder - iconic character, has presence in modern TM works.
    2. The Dark Six - their ritual is important for Extra setting.
    3. Type-Moon - that's obvious.
    4. Zelretch - iconic character and appears in many works.
    5. Type-Mercury - iconic character and soon to appear.
    6. Einnashe - is antagonist of short story and it's child appears in Case Files.
    7. Chaos - key character for Tsukihime plot.
    8. Wallachia - iconic character, appears in Fate worlds.
    9. Gransburg - mentioned in Case Files.
    10. Merem - is protagonist of short story, Nasu likes concept of Solomon.
    11. Roa - key character for Tsukihime plot.

    This means that other 17 DAAs could be replaced or removed (they don't hold significance in any work and is there just for the list).

    Which DAAs do you want to see in the Remake, which ones do you think are better to be replaced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gosserbam View Post
    6. Einnashe - it's child appears in Case Files.
    When? Also Rita is probably safe too. I wish they keep Sumire, Altrouge and her bodyguards.
    Last edited by Crown; June 4th, 2021 at 11:58 AM.

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    Surely Van-Fem is also safe given they appear in strange fake? Caubac Alcatraz too given his labyrinth was the focus of a whole story.

    Einnashe appeared in Talk along with Merem, Shiki, Ciel and Forte.

    Some also weren't recorded at all, so there's probably only like half, if even of the known DAA that are even in danger.

    I just hope Curry De Marche makes it on the list now. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown View Post
    When?
    Volumes 4 and 5, which is the part covered by the anime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Surely Van-Fem is also safe given they appear in strange fake? Caubac Alcatraz too given his labyrinth was the focus of a whole story.
    Caubac is also in /strange Fake. And Mahotsukai no Hako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Caubac is also in /strange Fake. And Mahotsukai no Hako.
    Ooooh yeah, he's the phone guy talking to Zelretch, and isn't he literally called Mr.Cellphone or something in Hako?
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    He also calls Waver at the end of volume 6.

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    I think Enhance dude will has big change. Since he is based on Dante from DMC, maybe Nasu will update him to have daddy looking like in DMC5, even some transformation I guess

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    You could argue primate murder and ort tan could be kicked out to make way for real vampire cool guys since they’re semi filler spots.

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    I need my Altrouge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    You could argue primate murder and ort tan could be kicked out to make way for real vampire cool guys since they’re semi filler spots.
    DAA's list's charm lies on its silliness. Don't try to make it coherent.

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    Just make the DAAs that are normal vampires wackier.

    Doesn’t take a lot of work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    DAA's list's charm lies on its silliness. Don't try to make it coherent.
    On this note, I hope they keep El Nahat, I liked his concept a lot.

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    The real question is how many DAA’s are interchangeable with 2hus

    Sumire obviously but I think you can argue for telephone and pirate too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    The real question is how many DAA’s are interchangeable with 2hus

    Sumire obviously but I think you can argue for telephone and pirate too.

    Think Hinako was secretly on the list before she joined Chaldea? Just this super anti-social DAA that like hurled books at people that got too close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Think Hinako was secretly on the list before she joined Chaldea? Just this super anti-social DAA that like hurled books at people that got too close?
    I can see it. Hinako accidentally kills an ancestor by throwing a book at them to hard, gets declared their successor, is now stuck trying to get off their newsletter subscription forever.

    It's basically what happened with ORT-tan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Think Hinako was secretly on the list before she joined Chaldea? Just this super anti-social DAA that like hurled books at people that got too close?

    Not gonna lie. She straight doesn’t seem both spooky or powerful enough to make the list.

    I don’t see even Louvre dying to her easy. Even if she might have the energy to match them, but if dead apostles have anything they’ve got knowledge and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Caubac Alcatraz too given his labyrinth was the focus of a whole story.
    One of his labyrinths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown View Post
    When? Also Rita is probably safe too. I wish they keep Sumire, Altrouge and her bodyguards.
    Einnashe appears in CaseFiles of EllMelloi.
    Did Altrouge appear in any work? I think she could actually be replace, since she was in top-10 and there would be more powerful vampires.

    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    You could argue primate murder and ort tan could be kicked out to make way for real vampire cool guys since they’re semi filler spots.
    They are iconic, doubt that. Also they do have really high positions, would be hard to make new DAA to replace them.

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    Altrouge’s most recent mention was in Melty Blood, I think.

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    Which reminds me, wasn't the most recent metion of Ortenrosse one of Wallachia/Nero's winquote or something like that?
    Last edited by Crown; June 7th, 2021 at 04:23 PM.

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