Servant/Project Idea Thread, "The Womb"

**Kabalisto Koga** · May 7th, 2023, 05:24 PM

well its some days ago but after some days of thinking about it some other events that happened

Originally Posted by tsugumi

I do not perceive you as friendly because you treat people like they only exist to dispense fun for you. You only cave in and interact with the ideas of other people once you've been ignored for a couple of pages, so rather than coming off as genuine, it comes off as you clumsily trying to manipulate the people here into responding to your constant stream of ideas once they've already opted out.

I don't think you're unaware of what you're doing. I think you know that your attempts to engage with others stem from a place of "ah, this will remind them to respond to MY comments." The problem is, because your engagement is so shallow, your motivation is very transparent to the other people here, which is insulting in its own right. Someone telegraphing to you that they think you're stupid enough to be manipulated is insulting.

It's not a crime to be bit insular and preoccupied with your own interests. That's the kind of person I am. But if you want constant indulgence, you have to cultivate the inclination to constantly indulge others in kind. You also have to teach yourself how to take a more genuine interest in the ideas of others in the first place, so that your engagement doesn't seem like it's coming from a place of just wanting attention.

So basically, I think your best options for getting what you want are these:
1. Asking for indulgence less. This provides the benefit of not needing to push yourself to interact with others when you're not actually interested.
2. Engaging with others more, in a manner that comes across as genuine. This provides the benefit of people eventually feeling as though they ought to reciprocate with you. But keep in mind that something clumsy and false will only serve to push people away just as badly as your "please respond" comments.

If you change nothing, all that will happen is that people will continue to forgo engagement, and they'll also stop engaging with even your requests for an explanation on why they aren't responding, because we're worried that doing so might be a bit dicey with the mods.

I'm sorry, I know this might be a bit difficult to read, I get a bit long-winded when I'm in the zone. But as someone who was diagnosed with social difficulties at an early age, the business of thinking about how reciprocity works, and the project of cultivating it in yourself when you were not born naturally inclined towards it, is very interesting to me.

If i have others given the feeling that i am just dispense fun ,it werent my intention . i know that i did focused myself increasingly on my ideas and lesser on the from the others like their servants , and i can understand that this is angereing or atleast not a good trait .

i though want to ask is it false that sometimes the ideas or concepts of others are genuinly remembering me on ideas i had or similar ideas or that they inspiring me ?likewise i to inspired Royd for some servants .

i know that a nice discussioni s a giving and not only taking. and i may have disregarded it sadly though i try to better me now .

Originally Posted by Dragolord09

Look I know you said you've had problems with learning and teachers in the past and that you're having just as much trouble in your native language as you do in English, but the problem here is that you really don't seem to be all that enthusiastic about correcting your deficiencies in whatever language you choose to engage in. Not to mention besides what other people have already talked about with your constant begging and attempting to get people interested in whatever half-formed idea you've got going on this week, you're constantly brute-forcing your sheets into existence without taking the time to look them over and proofreading them for better quality. Regarding your sheets themselves, a consistent issue with them (besides the ever present grammar and spelling problems) is that you seem intent on giving them the highest stats and ranks possible with no regard for quality control or balancing issues no matter who or what the actual Heroic Spirit actually did.

Maybe you should take a few days off, try to get a hold of some online tools in order to correct some of your more obvious issues, and for your next sheet, please don't try to rush through it like it has to be done yesterday. Don't let yourself stagnate and actually go for some actual improvement that shows you're truly taking this board's advice to heart.

Well i had to need a time to admit it to myself thats my skills are bad and i have really some language deficiences , in my nartive language i am rather adapt speaker , well bit writing grammer bmight even in my native language bit laking at times ,perhaps . About not overly enthusiastic wel its the difficult part and i try to look to better myself really this time perhaps try to find someone or online tools with which i can work with. About proofreading from my past sheets well its a difficult matter if you dont even know or get where the errors are honestly .

Now to the balancing and quality control ,what do you now define as Quality control ? the concept overal and build ? About the ranks and abbilities i find personally that the most other Creators here are rather not daring and bold enough in one side .Though at the other side sometimwes are Servants from the others where i didnt thought that others can modelate them like this honestly
like awhile ago that Hildegard von Bingen.

Originally Posted by Spelror

As much as I believe Koga is a nice person who wants feedback to really wants to get better at his craft, I sometimes find Koga to be quite incoherent (I really don't mean to refer to your communication skills with English, but as sad reality is, it's hard for people to understand you when what you say isn't exactly what you think it is). You really do enjoy expand your own worldview using your work, but again, I'm not going to refer to it again. I find it quite rude for me to keep repeating this point. Also Dreamerless, you really do need to chill the fuck out, not cool to just tell someone to shut the fuck up on a public forum just because dude's trying to get some attention for his work, poor fella got ignored like thrice on this thread in less than a week. I would be frustrated if I was him.

suggestion for koga: maybe you wanna draft up the specific mage or magecraft you want to show and post it up here for clarification(im not sure whether you can do that but it's worth a try), I think people can understand it better here that way. good to include diagrams too.

Well it can really be that therer is a communiation difficulty in that the words i chose are not what i try to say isnt what it isnt is i think to describe .

i admit its is really fun to think about the world history and nasu verse mage networks and organisations and to think which local Mage organisations or confederations or smaller scale alliance aside or alongside from the big players like Clocktower or Atlast as such . To finnaly having build and modelate each or atleast many countries of the worlds Mage society and networks . thank you for your understanding by the way .

i am concsious that my understanding of being a Mage might be different from the others here ,likewise my understandingo f the network and relationship between Mages .

with draft up you mean a concept scetch you mean the character scetches and rough concept i have in mind right ?

Originally Posted by Dreamerless

Sorry. That comment was uncalled for against Koga. I was just really annoyed at them.

i am not so resentfull ,and i try to not be annoying so much. by the way are you continuing on your unique take on of Grailwar ?

About the scetch I have thought of several concepts like also as example i thought of a Shirouesque Mage or rather Spellcaster .

Adio Init-herit

Magic Circuit Quality :E
Magic Circuit Quantity :E( C+ with the usage of Shadow Serpents familiars)

Background and personality scetches : He were just a normal norn boy outside of the World of Magecraft , he nurtured in a troubled environment in poverty. So was he forced to due also that he had barely succeded in finding a just job that payed enough for his Family .Finally became he a Mercenary and a quite capable one . During his years did he traveled accros various Clients and organisation until he finally were a Employe of Osiris Corp and he worked for awhile as normal Mercenary and Grunt until by accident he used a rudimentary Magecraft and his Superior noticed it and did him teached in his speciallity and found out he has meager Magic circuits they are of poor unrefined shalow state but stil capable of enabling a limited usage of Magecraft .

After this were he used specially for missions were the occurance of Magecraft related phenomenons are low but still present . Due to his loyalility to the organisation is he deemed a valued member ,further due to that he is one of the few connections between the Magical and mundance members.further does he found a likng in the organisations and he even found his girlfriend and future wife a fellow Spellcaster .

Magecraft : i will name his main and unique form of magcraft . Its Anti Magecraft a special varation and aplication he came up with after he get teached by the basicss of Magecraft did he developed a unique form namely by establishing a bounded field that explanding it does it subtile indistinct with the magical energy and flow of the environment so that even experienced Mages doesnt paying special attention ,though until when they try to cast a spell and their Magic circuits are start to awake and Magicalenergy is start to flowing through them is the bounded field pinpoint their circuits and shortcutting them and stunn them thus prevent the spell from being utilized . the effect is only holding on for a short times frame but its enough time to take out and kill . A simple sounding Magecraft but one dangerous despite its a new form of Magecraft is it a great base and even a Sage of the Osiris Corp noted that it some generations of developing it may result in a dangerous and powerfull Weapon and Magecraft as just few Mages specialised themself in Anti-Magecraft.

besides does he is teached in basics of heka though he himself is just able to rudimentary use and utilize it , as with his limited Magic circuits is he just able to use a set of Spells per day however he is quite adept in using Mystic codes andf milars his perhaps most astounding fact is that he can utilize and use "shadow serpents" a special type of phantasmals that are of the kin of Apophis which are known as volatile in nature and difficult to control and handle .

so that outside of few relict keeper families that are having special blessings that enabling them to do so , are just few recorded cases of Mages that ere able to utuilize them without great self risk as many Mages which tried to do saw a grousome end ,for this fact are the Shaow serpents despite their potencial of being strong and powerfull familiars are the risk of their utilization is in the egyptian Mage-Society the saying "that only a suizidal fool would dare to utilize the darkish serpents " thus its a great archievement as he can utilize them what even First class Mages cant easily do .

i know and admit i wrote it now like i used to but what do you think of this scetch ? any betterment suggestions ?

**Spelror** · May 8th, 2023, 09:03 AM

Yep, a concept sketch. By only broadening out what you want to express can people understand you more easily.

as for the magecraft part I kinda feel that I'm the least quality due to not knowing jackass on it, but i'm here to give my two cents:

If i interpret and summarise this correctly, the Anti-Magecraft Bound Field acts as a method of siphoning Magical Energy + Stun + Preventing use of Spell.
How are you going to explain the basis of its subtlety? Is there something you can use in your world to explain how it works using its original theories and explanations? It's overpowered, as one of your Osiris Corp Sages have mentioned, but is there a method to overcome it? This is strong, yes, but too strong.

You also have stated that dude has got limited Magic Circuits. If so, does it contribute to the time limit of their bounded field? Does using and spell from his skillset or controlling the serpents affect it as well?
Also, what is unique about the serpents dude can use? Other than it being familiars of a patron deity, what can the shadow serpents do? Maybe it can be such that the Bounded Field is only a platform that "jams" Magical Energy, and the serpents can be used the siphon the Magical Energy? Also, you said about the special blessings, can you share more about them?

**You** · May 8th, 2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamerless

Well, that certainly is good advice. I’ll take it. Nom

Did you ever end up going anywhere with Legion?

**Kabalisto Koga** · May 8th, 2023, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Spelror

Yep, a concept sketch. By only broadening out what you want to express can people understand you more easily.

as for the magecraft part I kinda feel that I'm the least quality due to not knowing jackass on it, but i'm here to give my two cents:

If i interpret and summarise this correctly, the Anti-Magecraft Bound Field acts as a method of siphoning Magical Energy + Stun + Preventing use of Spell.
How are you going to explain the basis of its subtlety? Is there something you can use in your world to explain how it works using its original theories and explanations? It's overpowered, as one of your Osiris Corp Sages have mentioned, but is there a method to overcome it? This is strong, yes, but too strong.

You also have stated that dude has got limited Magic Circuits. If so, does it contribute to the time limit of their bounded field? Does using and spell from his skillset or controlling the serpents affect it as well?
Also, what is unique about the serpents dude can use? Other than it being familiars of a patron deity, what can the shadow serpents do? Maybe it can be such that the Bounded Field is only a platform that "jams" Magical Energy, and the serpents can be used the siphon the Magical Energy? Also, you said about the special blessings, can you share more about them?

About the Boundded Field its subtlety is like that its nature is akin to a amateurish build and created bounded field like its disperse at any moment and its like a instabile field that crumbles , so imagine a normal high quality bounded field as 30 % ~ alteration/difference of ones Room Brightness in comparison to normal, visible and notice able immediatly like you enter a much brighter room ?this field has just 3~5% difference so if you not pay attention to it consciously or have fine sense you wouldnt notice it right away .

the Siphoning is rather passively in its detection as it is like you put a drop Salthwater in a bigger amount of sweetwater the water tends to be sucked by the salty waters in its atempt to assimilate and make the salt amount equally the salt is the Magical energy density. then about the stun and prevemtion effect , now imagine the Magic circuits are like water channels of normal water ?when a spell is started and the circuits are triggered to inncrease its flow its like you connect electricity guiding cables in to the water channels and puut Salt in it so the electricty=the foreign Magic energy is disrupting the activity of the Magic circuits and are disrupting the controled utiization of a spell so it fails or backfires as for a short time it cancels the control of the magic circuits .

the catch is Adio cant expand the field bigger then a normal Rom so he can realy effective only use in close combat or medium range and best in smaller rooms , so keeping distance is a way to evade it ,then he can just mainntain it at longest just a 1 minute per usage but he can cast the Field hust stock wise a amount 4 ~5 minutes then he has spent his daily stock . this is the reason why he has to chose if he want to use the bounded field or a heka spell as he can use just 5~7 time Magecraft per day effectively.

this is way he prfer to use mystic codes thatt ar just needing a minal ounce of maghic energy of just concentration to use like magic grenades . Adio is like Shirou often comparinbg mechanics o f magic nature with mechanicel details .

About the Shadow serpents they are amongst the oldest and the most deepest mystery possessing beings that are nowadays still extant , however partially due to their nature aswell , they are poowerfull but their power is malignant in nature as they are beings of chaos are they have a miasmic nature it wouldnt be false to describe them as living miasma as they can emits flame like miasma , to use them on has to establish a connection this is the fickle and delicat part as the snakes can be like other familiars controlled if the mage cant mentall control them respectively i f they are accepting the Mage ,it has nothing to do with the skill in general of the Mage or their Make up of Magic circuits rather is it that no one knows with which criteria they judge or values in detail in fact is they are when they "dont like" the Mage can they use the connection to erode and kill one so that the Mage which tried it is then appearing similar like a rotten mummy . the serpents abbiities are also relatedt o the imagnery number space and chaos.

The Serpents are also thrice as strong as normal Snake familiars annd their age of mystery lets them be immune to modern Magecraft . the Special Blessings are from once be seen as heterodoxic priest families that worshipped Apophis and other Snake and Serpent Gods respectively worshippers of Suthekh one paticular familer is themain user of them which are descendants oft he former Hyksos kings .the Blessing are divine in nature a sort of divine approval that the Serpents respect and make docile and tameable their sorceries is also having a similar nature like the Serpents themselves so that may play a role aswell.

the serpent as they themself are capable of similar like the Makiri Crest worms producing Magical energy are they able to offer them the Mage with which they can share it thus functioning as extern Cicuits thus can Adio with them extend his Magic circuits and give himself some more room and leeway for using Magecraft . So are Shadow serpents despite that they are highly usefull , difficult in handling so that Mages which are capable of using them apart from the Special Families are regarded as spacial cases worthy of note and aknowledgment as the cases of Mages which are capable of doing so withhin the last hundred years were just 27 cases in total recorded .

**Random** · May 8th, 2023, 04:59 PM

"Magus" contest entry status: 2106 words, thinking I'm probably about 15-20% done

this is a cry for help

**Kabalisto Koga** · May 8th, 2023, 05:02 PM