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    also if people are looking for inspiration in why angels would make interesting servants:
    Soil Nourishing Wood
    Autumn Tinder Kindling Fire
    Ash Enriching Earth

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    I was going to say the "bliblically accurate" angels are just as much as of a tired take as the regular ones nowadays but I don't think we've had many sheets involving them, actually. I can only (vaguely) remember two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    I was going to say the "bliblically accurate" angels are just as much as of a tired take as the regular ones nowadays but I don't think we've had many sheets involving them, actually. I can only (vaguely) remember two.
    Could have it both ways too like the Servant's standard appearance is a pretty winged boy/girl but their NP transforms them into their true "Biblically accurate/monstrous" form.

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    More of a scattershot of ideas, but I'm sure those more talented than me will get better results from this batch of names (I think I broke whatever genius allowed me to come up with my earlier Helios and Selene sheets):

    Mythological Rivals

    Britain

    Annowre - Caster and yandere for Arturia, NP would be something along the lines of continuously forcing the opponent to fight until he either accepts her terms or loses his life. Could be combined with Hellawes (yandere for Lancelot).

    King Claudas - Saber and recurring rival to several members of the Round Table and their fathers. Kit would revolve around him being able to escape and/or fight for much longer than thought possible. His son Claudin the Younger (another Saber) would change sides and become a noble member of the Round Table, even becoming one of the twelve knights to witness the Holy Grail.

    Garlon the Red - Assassin who's the brother of the Grail King, but with a lower moral fiber than him. He enjoys becoming invisible with his power and stabing knights through the back with his lances (Possible NP here). After enraging Sir Balin, he would be killed by him and thus setting into motion the events of the Dolorous Stroke.

    Gorlois - Saber/Avenger and first husband to Igraine as well as father to Morgan, Morgause, and Elaine. Could be used in a singularity where he's summoned as an Avenger and swears to wipe out all traces of Pendragon forcing a team-up of multiple generations of Pendragons.

    Maleagant - Saber/Rider/Assassin noted for kidnapping
    Guinevere. In terms of moral character he is the complete opposite of his father King Bagdemagus (Saber/Ruler), nonetheless his one-sided love towards King Arthur's wife drove him to kidnap her and keep her in his impenetrable castle. Unfortunantly for him, Lancelot and Gawain were the ones chosen to rescue her and he barely got away before a second confrontation with Lancelot (even with the odds stacked heavily in his favor) put an end to his antics.

    Morfydd - Twin sister to Ywain and possible Saber/Caster. Calogrenant's lover, could have same abilities as brother via variant of For He Is Another Isakander skill?

    Nabon le Noire - Berserker and giant who hated Arthur's knights as well as killing several of them who ruled the Isle of Servage. Upon hosting a tournament to celebrate his son Nathan's knighthood, he nearly killed Lamorak (who wanted revenge for Nabon killing his cousin) but he was saved by Tristan who proceeded to kill both father and son. Possible NP would be a gimmick in destroying mounts representing his trick of killing his opponent's horses in tournaments.

    Pinel le Savage - Assassin and cousin to Lamorak who tried to poison Gawain for his role in Lamorak's death. He got the wrong knight instead and decided to flee back to his country while the dead knight's cousin impeached Guinevere as a suspect in his death before Lancelot defeated him and Nimue uncovered the truth.

    King Rience - Assassin and early foe to King Arthur. His most notable habit was trimming his robe with the beards of the kings he conquered, by the time he faced Arthur he had eleven and wanted Arthur's for an even twelve (of course this is something that needs a little adjustment for Type-Moon lore). He was kidnapped by Balin and Balan and was subsequently killed off by Arthur.

    Ysbaddaden - Assassin/Berserker hybrid and primary antagonist to Culhwch's tale. A vicious giant and kinslayer (given he not only stole his brother's lands and murdured 23 of his nieces/nephews out of sheer cruelty), he was eventually defeated by Culhwch and several knights but managed to extend his lifespan and prevent his daughter from getting married by forcing Culhwch to complete 40 impossible tasks before he gives away Olwen in marrige. Unfortunatly for him, Culhwch, Arthur, and all their companions completed all his tasks and he was subjected to being shaved of his beard, flayed, and finally beheaded with his surviving nephew being the one to finally kill the giant.

    China


    The Four Perils – These guys I can see being midbosses for your usual singularity/Lostbelt, they'd be Monsters or Berserkers when classified under the Servant system.

    Pan Renmei – "Odd choice I know, but I figured that once you got your Yang Family sheets up again you’d need a nemesis for them to fight against." The part in quotes was for another Servant creator on another site, but I think as a Assassin/Caster hybrid he'd be a good fit for an antagonist in a singularity themed around The Generals of the Yang Family (in general I think that the saga as a whole has a well of characters to make fairly decent Servants from).

    France


    Caligorante - Berserker giant and source of Astolfo's net. He originally used it to capture prey for his amusment, but a combination of Alstolfo's weightless horse and magic horn to spook him caused him to be trapped in his own net and was paraded around several towns and cities being forced to act as a beast of burden.

    King Marsile - Saracen Lancer and primary antagonist in the Song of Roland, he would lead his version of the Paladins (Twelve Pagans) into battle and proved to be a formatable foe killing several characters before losing both his right hand and his son from Roland. He would eventually die from grief after hearing that Baligant is slain by Charlemagne.

    Brunello - Dwarf and Assassin, a thief who is under the employment of King Agramante. He is sent out to find and steal Angelica's ring so that the secret garden where Ruggiero is hidden can be found. He proves to be an embodiment of "Impossible thief" by not only stealing the ring, but also King Sacripante's horse (from right underneath him) and Marfisa's sword (possible NP would be a successful swipe of important possessions on a target, value goes up as more thefts are made under the NP's duration). Brunello subequently tricks Ruggiero out of the garden by appealing to his love of combat. However he gets his comeuppance first from Bradamante who pummels him and leaves him tied up to a fir tree to get the ring back to free Ruggiero from capture. He is later freed only to be caught by Marfisa who wants her sword back, she then hands him over to Agramante who has him hanged.

    Orillo - A caster and robber, born from the lineage of an imp and a fairy. He was able to restore himself from losing any of his limbs by reattaching them to his body and was practically immortal by this effect. He was beheaded by Astolfo who then fled from the enraged body who wanted his head back. Astolfo then cut Orillo's hair from his head with one hair strand in particular being the source of his life and when that particular strand was cut, he was finally killed. Thus his NP would be the French version of Meleager in effect: Able to survive beheadings and limb removals until one particular hair strand is cut.

    Greek


    Atë - Caster and general embodiment of ruination. Goddess of mischief, delusion, etc., she would be banished from Olympus (the hard way), after Hera (her sponser in this particular endeavor) managed to rush Eurystheus' birth ahead of Heracles' and become lord of the Argives. She now spends her time running ahead of the Litae (Embodiment of Prayers and her counterpart) causing havoc and delusion whereever she goes.

    Iceland


    Gryla – A repulsive Assassin and enormous giant, she lives in the mountains and comes down every Christmas to search for misbehaving children to eat as meals. She is aided in her tasks by Leppalúði (her lazy third husband who normally stays at home in a cave), Jólakötturinn the Yule Cat (house pet and eats people who don't recieve new clothes for Christmas), and her sons the Yule Lads (13 mischievous pranksters who steal from or otherwise harass the population). This one I can see being a seasonal antagonist for Christmas events, with or without the rest of her retinue.

    India


    Kamsa - Tyrant ruler of the Vrishni kingdom and Berserker asura in the body of a man. He would overthrow his father on the advise of his advisors and become king in his place, he also sought to avoid the prophecy of his cousin Devaki's eight son would slay him by killing her children. However Vishnu and Mahamaya managed to circumvate this by transfering her seventh son Balarama to Rohini's womb while her actual eight son Krishna would be transported to the village of Gokul to be raised there. Realizing his error Kamsa sent a host of demons to kill his relative but Krishna killed them all before eventually coming to Mathura and slaying his uncle.

    Mahishasura – Berserker and buffalo Asura, he's a deceitful demon who pursued his evil ways by shape-shifting. He has the boon that no man would be able to kill him and with it he defeated Indra and his Devas before they retreated to a mountain where where their combined divine energies coalesced into Durga. She would ride into battle upon a lion and killed him in combat. Would be a possible indirect way of getting a Durga servant by virtue of the fact that only she can defeat him.

    Maricha - Rakshasa and Assassin, he and his family terrorized rishis and were so frightful that nothing would dare enter their territory until Rama slew all but him and defeated him several times. Finally he would ally with Ravana and decoy Rama as a golden deer way from the rest of his party (under extreme reluctance and protest recalling his previous encounters with Rama) so that Ravana could kidnap Sita. The gambit worked but at the cost of Maricha's life though he had the last laugh as he foretold that Lanka and all the Rakshasas on it (including Ravana) would be killed.

    Raktabīja - A Berserker and Asura with the ability to instantly spawn a duplicate of himself whereever a drop of blood was spilt via a boon. During Ambika's fight with the asuras Shumbha and Nishumbha, the former sent Raktabīja out onto the battlefield and nearly caused the end of Ambika and the other Matrikas before Kali entered the fray and collected all the spilt blood into a bowl from the wounds caused by the other goddessses. She finally swallowed all the duplicate Raktabījas in her mouth while the others killed the original. NP and skill kit would revolve around him spawning duplicates to wear down the enemy in combat.

    Ireland


    Abhartach - A tyrant and Caster, he was a dwarf who proved to be difficult to stay dead after being slain twice already by Fionn. On the third try, he was slain, but on the advice of a druid consulted beforehand instead of being buried in a standing position, he was buried upside down which prevented his magic from resurrecting him (possibly giving him a two times Guts effect for his three lives).

    Aillén mac Midgna - Caster and incendiary being who was a talented harp player and singer. With his music he would lull the inhabitants of Tara to sleep before burning them all with his breath every Samhain (Sleeping and burning hybrid kid possible here). He would be killed off by Fionn who used the poison in his spear to keep himself awake from the sleeping music. It would be this act that won him the leadership of the Fianna.

    Bres - Lancer(?) and kin to both the Fomorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann, he was very unpopular as a king and favored the former over the later. He is said to be as beautiful to behold, yet harsh and inhospitable as well as wife to Brigid and son to Balor. After Nuada loses his hand during the First Battle of Magh Tuiredh, Bres was made king to reconcile relations between the Fomorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann. Instead he made the Tuatha Dé Danann pay tribute to the Fomorians and work as slaves, as well as ignoring hospitality rules. After seven long years of his rule, Nuada had a flesh and blood hand restored to his arm, and with it the mantle of kingship was passed back to him while Bres was exiled. During the Second Battle of Magh Tuiredh, he led the other Fomorians in battle but was cornered by Lugh while unprotected and plead for his life. Lugh then spares his life so that he can teach the Tuatha Dé Danann agriculture.

    Japan


    Kōdai-in - Caster Buddhist nun and founder of Kōdai-ji Temple, her other names include Nene and Toyotomi Yoshiko. She is the wife of Toyotomi Hideyoshi and led all diplomatic affairs that had to do with the imperial court, and monitored the daimyos' families who were being held hostage at Osaka Castle as matriarch figure of the Toyotomi clan. Admittedly she's out of place as a straight rival but she could be used as a metaphorical obstacle by another rival or antagonist. (Having trouble with what era in her life she should be summoned from)

    Kōsa - Also known as Hongan-ji Kennyo. Caster and the 11th head of the Hongan-ji in Kyoto, and Chief Abbot of Ishiyama Hongan-ji, cathedral fortress of the Ikkō-ikki (Buddhist warrior priests and peasants who opposed samurai rule), during its siege at the end of the Sengoku period. He engineered many alliances, and organized the defenses of the cathedral to the point that most at the time considered Ishiyama Hongan-ji to be unbreachable. It would be this fortress that would be subjected to the longest siege of Japanese history before Nobunaga managed to finally conquere it after the Abbot's son surrendered due to an official request from the Emperor. Mysteriously the fortress would burn itself to the ground after all the priests left it, but this didn't discourage Kōsa who remained devoted to his sect and wished to make a new central cathedral fortress which was finally fulfilled in 1591 with the Nishi Hongan-ji. Kit built would be based around making his cathedral with an impenetrable defense network with NP being a recreation of the siege ending with his victory.

    Mayan


    Cabrakan - God of mountains and a mountain giant who loves destruction. His reign of terror would come to an end by the Hero Twins Hunahpu and Xbalanque tricking him into eating poisoned fowl and then being buried alive. Skill would include poison weakness (especially if its down via fowl).

    Norse


    Andvari - Caster dwarf with a gift of shapeshifting into a pike who lives underneath a waterfall. Andvari had a magical ring Andvaranaut, which helped him become wealthy. Using a net provided by Ran, Loki catches him as a pike and forces him to give up his gold and Andvaranaut. Andvari cursed the stolen gold which would destroy anyone who possessed it. After the deaths of Brynhild and Sigurd, Gunnar left Andvari's gold in a cave. Years later, Andvari discovered the cave and his lost gold, although his ring was lost forever. NP would be his cursed ring and gold which ruins all who posseses them and turns them into Fafnir (keep flipflopping on whether Andvari would turn into a Fafnir too).

    Hrungnir - A stone jötunn and Berserker who had made a bet with Odin on their heads on which of their horses would be faster than the other. During the race that Sleipnir, the giant enters Asgard and becomes drunk and abusive leading the other gods calling on Thor to kill him. Would have some Rider elements in both skills and NP due to the nature of his bet and story.

    Thjazi - A shapeshifting giant and Berserker who kidnapped Iðunn. After eating a large amount of meat that several gods were planning on eating themselves, Loki became enraged and tried to strike down Thajzi before his weapon became stuck and he took off along with the transformed giant. Thjazi would only let the scared and injured Loki down if he agreed to participate in a plot to steal Iðunn along with her apples, a task that Loki regretted after all the gods grew old without the youth-restoring properties of the apples and threatened him upon learning Iðunn was last seen with him to undo his deed. With a borrowed coat that allowed him to turn into a falcon, he reached Thjazi's home and stole Iðunn back in the form of a nut. Upon realizing what happened after he returned home, Thjazi turned into an eagle and chased after him before the other gods lit a fire underneath where he was flying that burned his feathers and fell to the ground where he was killed. Conceptual weakness to fire possible here.


    Historical Rivals

    Gaiseric - Saber and King of the Vandals and Alans. He would be one of the key players in the difficulties faced by the Western Roman Empire during the 5th century as well as being famous for his exploit in the capture and plundering of Rome in June 455. He also defeated two major efforts by the Romans to overthrow him, the first one by the emperor Majorian in 460 or 461, and another by Basiliscus at the Battle of Cape Bon in 468. Possibly be an ally of other kingdom conquerers in a singularity.

    Odoacer - An Assassin and a soldier and statesman of barbarian background, who deposed the child emperor Romulus Augustulus and became King of Italy (476–493). Odoacer's overthrow of Romulus Augustulus is traditionally seen as marking the end of the Western Roman Empire as well as Ancient Rome. His brand of assassination would be more metaphorical with an emphasis on conquering.

    Totila - Rider and the penultimate King of the Ostrogoths, reigning from 541 to 552 AD. A skilled military and political leader, Totila reversed the tide of the Gothic War, recovering by 543 almost all the territories in Italy that the Eastern Roman Empire had captured from his Kingdom in 540. (Having trouble with these three, come back to them later)


    Others

    Aglovale de Galis - Saber, brother to Percival, and father to Morien. Though admitedly not as famous or well known as his siblings, I can at least see him as a well-rounded knight and fighter. Just for the sake of elemental variety, I can see his NP being a cold-themed blade to reflect a possible stoticism for a character trait.

    Alain and Drian - Brothers to Aglovale and summoned together as a Shielder reflecting how they guarded a bridge by jousting with all passers-by (Kit would be a mix of Shielder, Lancer, and Rider traits with NP being a one-shot one-kill that's especially fatal to other riders). One notable victim was King Mark of Cornwall.

    Antasena - Younger son of Bhima and possible Assassin/Rider. Has the boon of being covered in invulnerable scales that protect him from damage as well as being able to fly and dive in the air, ground, and sea.

    Balan - Younger brother to the more (in)famous Balin and Shielder. His most notable act would be to become the new guardian of a bridge after slaying the old one and taking up his weaponry and armor in the process. This resulted in a tragedy in which Balin and Balan giving each other a fatal wound (due to circumstances beyond their control they couldn't recognize each other up until this moment). His gimmick would be a combination of camouflaging his appearance to become someone else and steadfast defense (possibly dual wielding shields to contrast his brother using two swords) with his NP being a recreation of his last battle.

    Blancheflor - Caster and Percival's love. Don't really know what to do with this one except perhaps a focus on protection?

    Bragi - Caster and skaldic god of poetry as well as the wife of Iðunn. Admittedly not a lot to work with, but perhaps a modern update on his poetry to keep up with the times like many of the other Servants is possible?

    Britannicus was the step-brother of Nero Claudius, and brother to her wife Claudia Octavia. He was poisonned on her orders to consolidate her power. I can see him being an Avenger with an Anti-Nero gimmick (possibly alongside the rest of his family).

    Champion of the Black Belt - Saber (And that's all I got really, was honestly hoping for a sheet to go with the already made Champion of the Red Belt sheet).

    Sir Ector - Saber and Arthur's foster father. His attacks would be similar in appearance his foster child's but somewhat rougher and fiercer in movement. Probably host to a couple embarrissing stories from Arturia's past she wouldn't want to get out for a couple quick gags or short Interlude.

    Esclabor - Saber and a wandering pagan lord from a vaguely Middle Eastern land, usually either Babylon (in today's Iraq) or Galilee (today's northern Israel). Known for his valor, he is the father of Palamedes, Safir, and Segwarides, among others (some his other sons being killed by the Questing Beast). While visiting Rome, he saves the life of the Roman Emperor; he later travels to Arthur's Logres at the time of Arthur's coronation, where he rescues King Pellinore as well. Esclabor eventually settles at Camelot, later adventuring with Palamedes and Galahad during the Grail Quest. Shortly after converting to Christianity, an act necessary for the full admission into the brotherhood of Round Table, Esclabor commits suicide from grief upon learning of his favorite son Palamedes' death at the hands of Gawain.

    Geraint (or Erec depending on which one you want to use) - Saber and protagonist of Geraint and Enid alongside his wife Enid (Possible Caster). Enide and Geraint/Erec meet while the hero is on a mission to defeat a cruel knight, and her family provides him with armor and food. They fall in love and marry, but the hero begins to forsake his social and chivalric duties for domestic bliss. Rumors spread, and Enide blames herself. One night, her husband overhears her crying about damaging his reputation. In Chrétien's version, Erec begins to question Enide's love, but in Geraint the protagonist misunderstands her sobs and thinks she has been unfaithful to him. In both romances, the hero makes her accompany him on a long and dangerous trip, and forbids her to talk to him. Enide ignores this command several times to warn her husband of impending danger. Over the course of the trip, Erec/Geraint proves his abilities as a knight have not faded and accepts that Enide's love and loyalty are genuine, and the couple is reconciled. I'd imagin that the couple would be lovey-dovey that would enrage certain others like Medea.

    Goreu fab Custennin - Saber, son of Custennin, nephew of Ysbaddaden, and cousin to Arthur, Culhwch, and St. Illtud via their shared grandfather Amlawdd Wledig (might be another possible servant(s) here with Illtud and/or Amlawdd). He was hiden in a chest by his parents to avoid the fate of his siblings until Kay took him along on their quest. He later earns his name Goreu (The Best) by asisting Kay and Bedivere in killing Wrnach the Giant. He would ultimately be the one to finish off Ysbaddaden by decapitation and avenging his siblings as well as claiming his fort and territory as his own (decent Giant Slayer rank here).

    Hephaestion - Rider, sister of Hephaestion-Mnemosyne, and best friend of Iskander. Hephaestion was close to Iskandar in life, and his sister was Iskandar's body double. He was Iskandar's closest friend, said to have been the most beloved by Iskandar, the King of Conquerors, though he didn't think so himself. While his sister spread such information around, Hephaestion was aware that was simply counter-intelligence. Hephaestion was inserted at Iskandar's side so as, even if only a little, to reduce the chance of him being attacked. His birth was orchestrated by Olympias, Iskandar's mother. She required a confidant for her son who would protect and never betray the King of Conquerors, and a mage who would defend the king from any oncoming curse. The former became the real Hephaestion, and the latter, his sister. He'd be a siscon towards his sister (much to her embarrassment as well as being a general fanboy towards Iskander and others like him.

    Hector de Maris - Saber and Lancelot's younger half-brother as well as a competant knight of the Round Table in his own right with many adventures to his name. Stands by his brother and becomes one of the leaders of his faction after his affair with Guinevere is exposed. After many journeys his final fate would be to die during a Crusade in the Holy Land.

    Joseph of Arimathea - According to all four canonical gospels, the man who assumed responsibility for the burial of Jesus after his crucifixion. The historical location of Arimathea is uncertain, although it has been identified with several towns. A number of stories that developed during the Middle Ages connect him with Glastonbury, England and also with the Holy Grail legend. Ruler class with good ability to bounce off other Biblical/Arthurian characters (narrative-wise) for story potential. Sometimes has a son called Josephus of Arimathea in Arthur-related stories.

    King Arthur's Children - More for potential plot fodder in a singularity themed around Camelot in terms of the knight's children like Bedivere and Kay for example. I would imagine that some of Arthur's children would have access to the Dragon Factor as well. Though if one looks for a Pendragon besides Mordred among the Round Table Knights, there's always Arthur the Less.

    L.L. Zamehof (Satsuki Kurogiri) Pseudo Servant Caster composing of the inventor of Esperanto as the spirit and the last speaker of the Unified Language as the body. (Not sure what to do next with this one...)

    Lanval - Saber and protagonist of the poem of the same name. Said poem tells the story of Lanval, a knight at King Arthur's court, who is overlooked by the king, wooed by a fairy lady, given all manner of gifts by her, and subsequently refuses the advances of Queen Guinevere. The plot is complicated by Lanval's promise not to reveal the identity of his mistress, which he breaks when Guinevere accuses him of having "no desire for women". Before Arthur, Guinevere accuses Lanval of shaming her, and Arthur, in an extended judicial scene, demands that he reveal his mistress. Despite the broken promise, the fairy lover eventually appears to justify Lanval, and to take him with her to Avalon. The tale was popular, and was adapted into English as Sir Landevale, Sir Launfal, and Sir Lambewell.

    Leodegrance - Saber/Ruler as well as the father of Guinevere and Gwenhwyfach. He is an old friend of Arthur's father Uther as well as the keeper of the Round Table after his death (possible NP and replacement for other Round Table-related matters?). Could have some giant traits and abilities due to him being called the giant Ogyruan in Welsh texts.

    Lóegaire Búadach - Saber who can be best described as "Hapless comic-relief Ulster warrior" and "Mr. Third Place", especially when it comes to competing with the likes of Cú Chulainn and Conall Cernach. His death-tale sums him up. When the poet Aed was to be drowned in a lake near Lóegaire's house for adultery with Conchobar's wife Mugain, he cried for help and Lóegaire rushed to the rescue. As he leaped out the door, he knocked the top of his own head off on the lintel. Still, he managed to kill thirty soldiers and save Aed's life before he died. As a Servant, he would be given a fairly decent Battle Continuation as well as lousy luck (even by Irish/Lancer standards) with comical animations if put into animated form, though he can also be thought of as Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass due to his skill and ability.

    Lynette and Lyonesse - Caster duo composing of haughy Lynette and demure Lyonesse featuring in Gareth's most famous adventure. Besides using their spouses' weaponry alongside a boost in magic gained from their Class, I imagin that in terms of dialogue, Gaheris would serve as straight man to Lynette's antics and vice-versa for Lyonesse and Gareth. They also have a brother by the name of Guingomar (Saber) who may possibly be combined with Morgan's lover Guiomar as well as a possible nephew by the name of Brangemuer (Saber/Lancer) which honestly results in one very strange family tree.

    Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger - Caster, Nero's tutor and a Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and, in one work, satirist, from the post-Augustan age of Latin literature. When Nero became emperor in 54, Seneca became his advisor and, together with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus, provided competent government for the first five years of Nero's reign. Seneca's influence over Nero declined with time, and in 65 Seneca was forced to take his own life for alleged complicity in the Pisonian conspiracy to assassinate Nero, in which he was likely to have been innocent. I see him as a straight man trying to reign in Nero (and the other emperors) before they get too carried away with their antics.

    Nagagini - Caster/Lancer? Bhima's wife from Kakawin Bharatayuddha and mother of Antareja. A loyal devoted person who loves to help others, possibly be a support role.

    Panakawan - Alter Ego set of four servants named Semar, Petruk, Gareng, and Bagong. Comic relief clowns who always aid the hero of the current story they appear in, they are deities within ugly-shaped bodies.

    Prasutagus - Saber/Rider/Avenger. King of the Iceni tribe of British Celts and husband of Boudica. As an ally of Rome and leader of an independent tribe he lived a long and prosperous life, but when he died everything pretty much went to hell for his family and tribe (to put it midly). With the knowledge of what happened after he died added onto his Spirit Origin in addition to his regular Saber and Rider classes, he can also manifest as an Avenger to wipe out all Roman traces he can find.

    Saint Matthias - 13th Apostle and replacement for Judas after his betrayl according to the Acts of the Apostles. His calling as an apostle is unique, in that his appointment was not made personally by Jesus, who had already ascended into heaven, and it was also made before the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the early Church. He'd be a Caster/Ruler. (Don't worry about other 12, already done on AminoApps)

    Vrushali - Rider and wife of Karna. Her story is found in the Marathi novels Radheya (by Ranjit Desai), and Mritunjaya (by Shivaji Sawant), and is retold in many modern adaptations based on Karna's life.Like Karna, Vrushali belonged to the Suta (charioteer) community and she was a good friend of Karna from their childhood. When Karna grew up, Adhiratha chose her as the bride for his son. She is described to be wise and pious. After the death of her sons and husband, she ended her life on her husband's pyre. As a Rider she'd be driving Karna's chariot as well as using a couple weapons herself in combat.

    Wisanggeni - One of Arjuna's children (Possible Archer), as well as one of the few who were able to beat all five Pandavas in combat. Physically, Wisanggeni is described as a young man who seems arrogant. But he has a kind heart and likes to help.

    Kouma Kishima - The man who eliminated the Nanaya clan under orders of Makihisa Tohno. He is a member of the Kishima clan, a clan which is a sub-family of the Tohnos but with much stronger demon blood running through them. He'd be a Pseudo Servant of the Berserker Class with a strong focus on his oni nature and fighting style.

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    Alice Kuonji - A coolheaded Witch who owns her family's trademark familars the Ploys. She'd be a Pseudo-Servant Caster with an emphasis on summoning her Ploys to do the fighting for her.

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    I keep flipflopping between Ehud and Eglon for my second MCaS post for the month. Who do you think makes more sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jishara View Post
    I keep flipflopping between Ehud and Eglon for my second MCaS post for the month. Who do you think makes more sense?
    I'd go with Eglon just on the basis I've never seen a sheet for him before. Curious how you'd find a fitting NP for him though given his legend is basically just "gets assassinated (in a pretty humiliating way)". The ability to absorb weapons into his immense fat?

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    Sort of, but not quite. My idea is that it is basically a black hole within his body, a feat of magecraft cast by him in his own protection. Thank you for the advice.
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    I tried making an Ehud, but got stumped trying to be make a meaningfully different one than what Funderfullness provided on page 572 of Create-A-Servant (the first one). Eglon is fresh for the picking as Royd mentions, as for what class he'd be... Ruler is the obvious one, but seeing as Israel's armies didn't attack until Ehud had killed Eglon then Eglon could be considered a Shielder (as his death left the country unprotected this means that while he was alive he protected the country). Could Also have a Pretender/Faker where the Sword that was the message from God wasn't merely sunk into Eglon's belly but actually merged and possessed his corpse (and actually disabled the country from the inside after Ehud left). But if we are sticking with Eglon and want to use the 7 main classes I could see an argument for Rider (riding his throne), Caster (use Territory Creation and Item Construction simulate ruling a country), or Berserker (as he is (most likely rightly) angry about getting assassinated by a messenger that he showed trust towards (it is actions like Ehud's which is why people choose to shoot the messenger))

    Edit: took to long to post my opinion piece and just saw your black hole Caster interpretation...looks great! especially interesting if he has an antagonistic pseudo-sword of Damocles rattling around in his gut~ (an interpretation where he survives the assassination attempt but was forced to flee his country when Ehud brought Israel's armies to attack, as he had to deal with the Sinister(Left-Handed) Sword rattling around in his gut)
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    Ah, ok, thanks for your advice. I will be doing Eglon, and I think this will go well.


    EDIT: Thanks so much! I'll think about adding the sword of damocles-type thing to him.
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    Okay here is an idea I wanted to run by y'all to see whether it is crazy talk or might be an interesting story thread:
    With the Ancient Aliens interpretation of the bible as well as the scrutiny and leaps of logic that Bible Fundamentalism has faced in the Age of Reason a door ha opened for opportunistic Foreigners to enter our world. As long as the Outer God is willing to contort itself to appear to fit (which is in fact quite distinct from actually fitting) into one of the myriad biblical characters, then with a little faith and a little madness they squeeze their way in.

    an example would be Elishama, a minor scribe character from Jeremiah 36:12, but he rose to prominence when archeologists in 1986 found a clay seal with
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    inscribed upon it. However, its ambiguity could allow Amon-Gorloth (who sleeps in the Valley of Kings), Hastur (as the King in Yellow), or Yamath (as King of Demons) to squeeze their ways in as a Servant (or at least to manifest a servant of theirs as a Servant).

    once again this could just be crazy talk, but interested to hear what y'all think
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    New here to this site, but has been lurking for quite a while. Give a warm welcome to this obviously cute knight!

    Anyways, I have a question for an idea. You know how the human order can impose certain attributes to higher beings (Divine sprits, HS) through perception of their character? I've been wondering if we can impose to something outside of our understanding, such as aliens. An example would be if we can impose the attribute of evil towards to, let's say, the U-Olga Marie. U-Olga Marie may not necessarily be evil as perhaps (hypothetical, dumb scenario) in the future humanity killed of her(?) species, and she traveled in time for revenge or such. But since currently we can't understand whatever she is, can we impose a concept onto her?

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    Considering how TM has always treated aliens as being who are either fundamentally opposed to our reality to the point of being fictional (Outer Gods) or actively detrimental to the Human Order (Types, Velber) I doubt we can impose anything onto them.

    I suppose you could have a phantasmal species that's an alien and that would be based on our perceptions. Like how we have FGO demons and fake demons/true demons.

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    As far as we can tell, Ulga is a lifeform completely divorced from the Human Order, as an alien of a higher grade existential scale. It would be like trying to force an Ultimate One to obey the Human Order. It simply doesn't work because it's not part of the Human Order at all. It also doesn't work because they aren't spirits, they're living, genuine lifeforms. Human understanding simply can't modify something like that; it would be like the Human Order automatically making anyone named "Dracula" a vampire because of the legend of Dracula, or a change in understanding modifying a Servant after they've been summoned. A spirit, something more like a record or logbook of something that used to exist, and now exists only as humans perceive it to exist, is malleable in ways that a being grounded in the era, especially the living, simply can't be.
    And for the case of Ulga (and Ultimate Ones, for that matter), there's her transcendence over the Human Order, proven by her black hole generation. She operates on the System of the Universe, far above what humans can understand in the present. Even weapons that ordinarily could work, such as the lifespan-measuring device of Sion's Black Barrel will fail against her because of her cosmic lifespan.

    In short, there are very limited circumstances where a concept could be inflicted upon aliens, just like there's limited circumstances where a concept could be inflicted upon a living being; it took all the power Gramps had to inflict the concept of "death" on Tiamat, and she was restraining her power severely.

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    Five Good Roman Emperors leading to Romulus - Quirinus? Or some kind of super Pax Romana NP type
    I would imagine be something like Leftover's Tyrfing
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    Hey jishara. Might I ask you what your grand candidates would be.

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    ROYD YOU DIDN'T HAD TO MAKE THIS SO DIFFICULT. ;_; It's the 3rd of April and I JUST found a suitable candidate for a possible MCaS entry. Istg finding just normal people in the Bible is such a pain, the ones with the most things written about them are all boring god-fearing figures. Nothing against you or your pa, big J.
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    Lol honestly just found my candidate as well, and he's a pretty famous figure which for some reason no one had done since CaS2 (haven't checked CaS1). Now let's hope I won't get sniped for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFrenzy View Post
    ROYD YOU DIDN'T HAD TO MAKE THIS SO DIFFICULT. ;_; It's the 3rd of March and I JUST found a suitable candidate for a possible MCaS entry. Istg finding just normal people in the Bible is such a pain, the ones with the most things written about them are all boring god-fearing figures. Nothing against you or your pa, big J.
    If you need help looking for figures to use, I'd be willing to help you find someone. In fact that goes for anyone else who needs help. I have no qualms with giving other people figures to use. I mean, I already suggested Balaam yesterday, but someone like Darius the Mede is another figure that could be interesting. And don't forget, figures like Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus are featured in the Bible as well, and you could probably get away with using them for the prompt.

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    I'm shamelessly doing a figure that has already been done a few times (I'll even be so bold as to pronounce it someone who's been done in this very contest, within these opening salvos), but I think I can spin it well enough to make it unique and fun.

    I have a second idea too, though I'm flicking back and [Kromer] on which figure exactly to [SHITPOST UNBLOCKED] upon.

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    I don't think Royd expected bible to be difficult at all and yet it's like the most complained about theme so far lmao

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