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    Feels like we have this exact same conversation about syncretism every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anju Addams View Post
    But they are. This is a real thing that Nasu is pulling from. Japanese Syncretism is a huge thing that has been going on for centuries.
    Amaterasu is Vairocana who is also Dakini who is Inari etc.
    I am actually against syncretism in that case as the Shinto Lore iss majorily consistent of its antique state so do i find there should be if any justt superficial syncretism as we have enough lore without being forced to use syncretism to fill lore or plotholes ..

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    Syncretism and it’s consequence have been a disaster for beast lair sheet makers.
    partially is it in some sense abiz over used i find although i also went that way once .

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    I am of the opposite opinion. Syncretism is extremely fascinating. I mean, this even happens in Western religions.
    Aphrodite is Venus who is Ishtar who is Astarte who is Inanna.

    God Himself is based on a bunch of syncretism too.
    actually is syncretism either a form of try to understand forreign cults and a sort mix like there are several japaneses budists which are practise a shinto budism and the Romans had their own style with Interpreditio Romanae . Also did i read that before the Sasasanids did made a religious reform were during parthian times several syncretistic sects of Zoroastrianic groups which had a mixture of beliefs(ystems) like with either Roano-Hellenic or with Mesopothamian ancient religion in it .

    about Monotheisitic Religions is their bad habit to at one side degrade and ridicule the Gods of other beliefsystems and that they are position their own God above the others where they are treat the name of other Gods as the of their own one like the of the Israelitic or Islamic God as they are in my oppinion actually were some other Gods of the previous Godsworld but even in polytheistic faiths like the Romanic or Babylonian where Marduk had 50 names of minor deities or that there are numerious epitaphs of Jupiter which were presumably some other Gods of the italic peoples that after the Romans Conquered the whole peninsular where included in the State Religion of Rome where Jupiter where the Highest Deity .

    there is also a a Term which is called Henotheism or Monolatri which as example is either that one God will be placed over the other for a certain time but without to denying the status of otherGods like as example the famous Ruler Aurelian the Restore of the World did introduce the cult of Sol Invictus where a Henotheist which means that he actively worshipped only one but didint denied the other Gods .

    and honerstly i am rather polytheistic myself in that i find the existences of several Gods more plausible and that if anyone is interested in the intwellectual fight of such matter should take a look at Celsus as example.

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    I can't claim to know why Nasu is doing it but at most I can speculate it's his unique attempt to explain how various random religions can exist as real things in the same world and their very much real gods can govern the same thing. If they are the same person then...
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    You know, for as often as Syncretism gets brought up in these kinds of threads I can't help but wonder, how much it all actually matters in the grand scheme of things?
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    It doesn't.
    People don't even notice or complain about it unless Tamamo is brought up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    You know, for as often as Syncretism gets brought up in these kinds of threads I can't help but wonder, how much it all actually matters in the grand scheme of things?
    Specify and elaborate further ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    It doesn't.
    People don't even notice or complain about it unless Tamamo is brought up.
    Honestly i find Tamamo aswell Nero both cute and swee thus am i okay wizh it.

    So

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Yeah, spam warning on this one. Remember you already have your record dirty for the sockpuppet(s), so I'd really recommend behaving.
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    I'll just take this post to talk about a few things about your behavior lately.

    1. Your cross-posting is getting on people's nerves. Strictly speaking this is not rule-breaking behavior but if it crosses a certain line it could be interpreted as overt spamming, which is a no-no.

    2. Deleting posts is fine, but you are currently overusing this feature. Post deletion is meant to be used when you post in the wrong thread, or when you really feel like your post does not warrant existing. In your case, you often delete posts to simply edit posts, which is not the intended functionality. Please consider using the edit button more.

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    This is not a public warning, as you've not explicitly broken any rules yet, but see it as an opportunity to make sure it doesn't get there.
    All right, NINE-Lives. You've been warned for spamming lately. Then you were informally cautioned for continual reposting and for deleting posts, as well as for being hostile. Since then, you've continued to abuse the forum in all these respects. (To take one particularly baffling instance, when you've been told you're over-using post deletes, it's probably not a very smart idea to reply to that staff notice and then delete your reply).

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    Establish patterns of good behaviour and you might earn this privilege back, in time. Continue to be a problem - I'm getting out in front of you here and explicitly saying that if you screw around with the edit function like you have been with delete, we will take notice, so don't try that as a substitute - and you will be rapidly escalated up the punishment ladder. You've been given plenty of chances: you won't find that happening any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    It doesn't.
    People don't even notice or complain about it unless Tamamo is brought up.
    Too real

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    All right, NINE-Lives. You've been warned for spamming lately. Then you were informally cautioned for continual reposting and for deleting posts, as well as for being hostile. Since then, you've continued to abuse the forum in all these respects. (To take one particularly baffling instance, when you've been told you're over-using post deletes, it's probably not a very smart idea to reply to that staff notice and then delete your reply).

    You could readily have been warned again, which would put you on a full strike and a week's tempban. The other staff, however, decided to be a bit more merciful. Instead, your post deletion privileges have been rescinded.

    Establish patterns of good behaviour and you might earn this privilege back, in time. Continue to be a problem - I'm getting out in front of you here and explicitly saying that if you screw around with the edit function like you have been with delete, we will take notice, so don't try that as a substitute - and you will be rapidly escalated up the punishment ladder. You've been given plenty of chances: you won't find that happening any more.

    You're on notice now. Please take this on board, and improve your standard of posting. Take a moment before hitting "Submit Reply" and think about what you've just written. Relax if no one immediately replies to you or your ideas: it happens to everyone. Raise your game, and you'll see the rewards.

    Everyone may now resume their regularly scheduled thread.
    a one question Seika if there is a admin here i have tried to upload a picture in the group i made but i could not where can there be the issue as it blocked when i clicked on save in the gallery ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    a one question Seika if there is a admin here i have tried to upload a picture in the group i made but i could not where can there be the issue as it blocked when i clicked on save in the gallery ?
    Something has been wrong with the groups for a while Koga. I can add pictures to my group either even at the correct size. You are probably better taking this to the Site Issues Thread.
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    I haven't outright checked, but I'm almost certain the problem would be that groups have generally just been a horrid pain for the board to handle, and we've disabled the vast part of their features. I strongly recommend just using an image host like imgur and showing off images that way instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anju Addams View Post
    Something has been wrong with the groups for a while Koga. I can add pictures to my group either even at the correct size. You are probably better taking this to the Site Issues Thread.
    You mean you can't add pictures ? As even when i in a moficator where i resized it but still where there a issue .
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    On the topic of syncretism. I wonder if you could chain summon using figures that were syncretized with each other as a catalyst (Summoning Ishtar by summoning Astarte by summoning Aphrodite for example).
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    Do you have any ideas related to giants/jotunn’s/Gigantes? My personal headcanon is that the giants where allowed to stay despite being pieces of Sefar due to working to suppress and contest against the gods. What are your personal headcanon’s regarding the giants?
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    At first wont you reply on Seikas words towards you ? i mean to react upon them in any form like clarification ? okay now to your qustions .

    Quote Originally Posted by NINE-lives View Post
    On the topic of syncretism. I wonder if you could chain summon using figures that were syncretized with each other as a catalyst (Summoning Ishtar by summoning Astarte by summoning Aphrodite for example).
    No that wont work they rae seperate persns and beings you cant do this as each one has their own catalyst that would determine that at the start , you would if any be a skilled mage in specialised Thaumaturgy to make that work by an elaborate and complicated spell that modifies the summoning spell but i gues that fr such a specific feat the Mage in question would havebe a in summoning spells or ritualcraft specialised or extraordinary talented Mage and i think given when one Mage could get his hands on aa catalyst to summon a Goddess potencially would that preperation be rather unpractical as Aphrodite has herself some WAr Goddess aspects so would it be more practical to try to specify the summoning spell to try to specify the part of the War Goddess as example .

    Quote Originally Posted by NINE-lives View Post
    Do you have any ideas related to giants/jotunn’s/Gigantes? My personal headcanon is that the giants where allowed to stay despite being pieces of Sefar due to working to suppress and contest against the gods. What are your personal headcanon’s?
    in my are they a specific Phantasmal Species abd that they are differeng like in that as example the Nordic Hrimthursen which first bborn individial Ymir is are Divine Beings whichs powers are on par with the Nordic Gods with obvious variation per individual so is Ymir far the most powerfull Hrimthursen as the first as he is a embodiment of the World and a true primordial Being which i find is akin to a deity . During other Hrimthursen were much weaker but had the inner potencial to. As Ymir were so powerfull that Odin and his Brothers used his Body to create the World in other words used his powers . About the Jotun and Thyrs are they also a species but over the time did they were increasingly simmilar to the Element which created them .

    the Giganttes were presumably a own Generation of Gods in a sense ,like the Titans which were before the Rheanids took power were the Ruling Gods that ruled over the Humans of the Golden Age .

    About the Giants of other mythologies must i more research though.
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    Worth noting that some theorize that Ymir and velber are one in the same and that Odin made the valkyries out of the velber.

    (Hux made a great velber/Ymir sheet).

    Also worth noting that the Norse gods and jotunn surprisingly got along, they intermingled and intermarried, Loki is even half god and half giant.
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    My other personal headcanon is that the nephilim where the giants of the abrahamic texture with their existence being the true reason god cleansed the world with a flood.
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    You know NINE, if you want to post something extra two seconds after your previous post or if your post was the last in the Thread why don't you just edit it?

    Maybe more people would be inclined to answer your questions if you don't spam the thread with tons of posts?
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    What headcanons do you have for the giants by the way?

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    I don't have any "headcanons" about Giants, but I do dislike Sefar and I would greatly prefer that it be kept as far away from other mythologies as possible.
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