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Thread: Servant/Project Idea Thread, "The Womb"

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    I wanted to ask how many people would be interested in a 'Create a Heroic Spirit in a non-Fate setting' thread? (Obviously I'm using the term 'Heroic Spirit' for convenience) It could be for existing franchises, like Civilization, the Koei Warriors series, Assassin's Creed, Shin Megami Tensei/Persona, etc., or it could be for your own settings, which is what I have in mind

    Asking here since I wasn't sure where else to. Don't know if I can expect much interest, since this is a Type-Moon fan site, but I don't think there's any harm in asking

    I've already rewritten my Black Dahlia profile on my blog if an example sheet would help people. Most of my Servant sheets admittedly don't reference Nasuverse lore that much beyond the basics, which luckily makes them easy to adapt and tweak for non-Fate/ settings

    Edit: Obviously such a thread would probably be posted to Doujin Projects rather than Fanfic General

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    I don't see what the point would be. Servants are intrisically tied to the Nasuverse, and trying to put them in another setting would just make them more generic by removing the elements distinguishing the universe. And if you want to make a different universe like the one in your example, Lostbelts and alternate universes like Musashi already exist.
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    I'm not even sure I understand the idea
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    basically, she wants a thread to work with historic characters in a creativ manner distinct from the TM style
    like making a Kratos sheet, but imagining him in the Super Smash Bros. Universe instead
    "Let's see the color of your coin, my friend."



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    I mean this in the lightest way possible. But why?
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    for fun, duh.


    ---on a separate note------
    Fuck it, Can't find out a nonexistent war this guy took part in.
    Imma go ahhhh for a while.


    All the records on hiroari basically is:
    -> damn bird at palace
    -> scary ass fella be scarin' everyone
    ->anime style flaskback to that one time a minamoto killed some youkai with arrow
    ->godisposable characterhiroari go kill the fuck
    ->oh shit it killed it
    ->here disposable character have a surname
    ->conquest, die.

    All in a few fucking pages.

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    Well, the thing is that it doesn't sound very fun. And I think you're not finding much because that's all there is on Hiroari: he was said to shoot a weird bird and served Prince Kaneyoshi in the civil war between the Southern court and the Ashikaga Shogunate. Having to work with absurdly obscure people is the risk of wanting to make a sheet just because they're mentioned in a Touhou song title.

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    That said, I guarantee there are lines to make sense of it. That's how I felt about my Manji Manzaburo before I opened up a whole can of worms. My first step for any obscure story is to search them up in their native language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gl4re View Post
    That said, I guarantee there are lines to make sense of it. That's how I felt about my Manji Manzaburo before I opened up a whole can of worms. My first step for any obscure story is to search them up in their native language.
    there's at least like 3 copy+paste websites.
    Also, I didn't really do it for Hiroari. I did it for Itsumade. Itsumade with the "Agent of Death" sort of vibe.

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    I mean, there are stories that have mythic/historical figures summoned into the present and wielding superhuman abilities loosely based on their feats in life outside the Nasuverse. I could see wanting to write up a figure in Record Of Ragnarok style for instance. That said I don't quite see the point of this basically Fate with the serial numbers filed off approach. Even if you're writing an RP or something for people not familiar with the Nasuverse I don't get why you couldn't still just use the original terms rather than inventing new more generic ones that convey the same effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spelror View Post
    there's at least like 3 copy+paste websites.
    Also, I didn't really do it for Hiroari. I did it for Itsumade. Itsumade with the "Agent of Death" sort of vibe.
    Then you're better off researching it in the first place if you're not interested in the guy. There's plenty of Yokai descriptions like this: https://yokai.com/itsumade/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spelror View Post
    -> damn bird at palace
    -> scary ass fella be scarin' everyone
    ->anime style flaskback to that one time a minamoto killed some youkai with arrow
    ->godisposable characterhiroari go kill the fuck
    ->oh shit it killed it
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    so much history and meaning conveyed in one word.
    "Let's see the color of your coin, my friend."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spelror View Post
    there's at least like 3 copy+paste websites.
    Also, I didn't really do it for Hiroari. I did it for Itsumade. Itsumade with the "Agent of Death" sort of vibe.
    dig past those 3 then buddy
    It's winter in Sapporo. And as the weather stirs, so too does a new Holy Grail War.

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    i'm just going to burnout this shit like how I did for Tom and see how it turns out.

    (I might also use the Tom format for this. I'm calling it the Tom format from now on. I actually had a lot of fun writing Tom.)

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    Question: Can anti-heroes be turned into alters? I distinctly remembered there was a Blackbeard alter sheet where he was a total gentlemen who hated his normal self. And two, would a alter of Gorgon just be Medusa Lily?

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    'Alter' denote a Servant being modified by something, not an 'evil' version. So no, a modified Medusa wouldn't be her Lily form because that's not how it works. Lily doesn't mean a good counterpart either, just a younger version.
    Last edited by Alexcoene; December 4th, 2022 at 08:22 PM.

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    I just thought that since Gorgon is Medusa fully as a monster then her alter would be similar to her Lily form where she was still a goddess.

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    There might not be a rule that alters must be evil but that's their whole aesthetic. If they're not evil you should call them something else.

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    Hey, random question is an entity which is a fusion of three deities required to be an Alter Ego? Or can it be a different class?

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