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    死徒二十七祖 The Twenty Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors madarra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    Why does Roa say Shiki's the only one with the means to kill him when Ciel is literally right there with reincarnation denial.
    Ciel says she might fail to kill him with even with all her equips cuz its the full moon. Might be that Seven needs to actually "kill" you to deny your reincarnation, just blowing up the body and having it rebuild from the ankles(damage) might not be enough, so anything Ciel does would be pointless if Seven itself is incapable of dealing the killing blow (with Calvaria maybe just full on disintegrating/insta-killing him or something.)

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    That actually makes a lot of sense. Especially given his body as SHIKI. But, he said it in Ciel True when he's talking to Shiki before vanishing so it feels a little off... hmm. Maybe it's foreshadowing something.

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    死徒二十七祖 The Twenty Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors madarra's Avatar
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    maybe the jump into Shiki`s body is too improper for Seven to work. Would only remove Shiki from reincarnation, not Roa, but yeah, im to light on details to talk about Ciel route with confidence in anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    I believe the comparison is that SF was both while GO was neither. Though go feels more like a Fate based setting that got twisted going by the presentation. I also agree it's possible there is some multi world/over world connection thing given her nature. Honestly too much unknowns to say for certain since even if the general idea I laid out ends up being close, you could just mix the settings in the end in a specific showing and invalidate every mechanism. Which begs the question, what the heck would mushroom even be thinking at that point.

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    I already thought it was the equivalent of 'dont think' or whatever. so the other writers didnt feel compelled to once more rewrite things because they werent told about things. A meta explanation yes but by the lore we have already it sounds like a oxymoron to have ideablood/DAA and servants in the same world since one naturally denies the other or w/e

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    Maybe DAA aren't as strong in the mixed world if the curse/system fucking up the world isn't doing the job fully? It probably doesn't matter unless strange fake goes off the rails and continues for way longer than I imagine it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    maybe the jump into Shiki`s body is too improper for Seven to work. Would only remove Shiki from reincarnation, not Roa, but yeah, im to light on details to talk about Ciel route with confidence in anything
    I don't know, Roa is already dead at this point so it feels like something he's saying in a meta capacity.
    Last edited by Nanaya; September 4th, 2022 at 05:36 PM.

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    I mean it sounds like a all or nothing thing more than a matter of degrees?

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    If it was all or nothing I don't think the possibility of a mixed world would be a thing.

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    True, im more going with the meta explanation than a in universe one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    I believe the comparison is that SF was both while GO was neither. Though go feels more like a Fate based setting that got twisted going by the presentation. I also agree it's possible there is some multi world/over world connection thing given her nature. Honestly too much unknowns to say for certain since even if the general idea I laid out ends up being close, you could just mix the settings in the end in a specific showing and invalidate every mechanism. Which begs the question, what the heck would mushroom even be thinking at that point.
    Sorry for butting in, but where was it stated that F/GO is "neither"? I saw that, went "huh" and then tried to find it, but couldn't.

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    I can't remember. It was either an interview of sorts or blog post. IE it was just a comment.

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    It's from Nasu's blog in 2017.

    「そう。故にどっちとも言えない「FGOみたいな世界」と言えなくもないのじゃよ、
    "Right, and that's why it could be said to be a world which is neither, like FGO."
    Honestly, who the fuck knows what he meant by this, maybe we'll find out at some point.
    Last edited by Petrikow; September 6th, 2022 at 12:23 AM.

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    Thanks. No one will ever accuse him of being clear.
    It's all a simulation or the world's been fucked by the events so please understand. You can have all this fanservice though so don't think about it or something.

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    Then why even bring it up in the first place lmao.

    But in all honesty it feels weird to cool fgo neither, juts the general context and themes ect

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    Later on when asked about what the Tsukihime characters are doing in Part 2 he goes on about how they aren't around due to the bleaching and then frames the statement as though he considers FGO as 'Fate' since he starts talking about Tsukihime characters in Fate. So, don't put a ton of stock in anything since he changes his perceptions.

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