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    Yes there is. We see it here in Shiki's dream sequence during the Ciel normal end.

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    Oh, I not finished any Ciel routes was delusional thinking it should showed in scene when Shiki chased Hisui in forest and can't find it's on mansion map
    I also thinked at first that new room under staircase was a exchange for this building, thanks

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    Can anyone remond me. Death points was only a tohno thing right? Ryougi cant see it?

    Edit: nvm. She can
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlimitedBladeWorks View Post
    Yes there is. We see it here in Shiki's dream sequence during the Ciel normal end.[/IMG]
    Pretty sure the Ciel route dream sequence is the only place the detached building appears on the Near Side routes in the original, too, so this is just carried over from the old version.
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    Originally in the bit where Shiki sees Hisui and faints in the clearing she's heading towards the detached building iirc, in remake she's still heading there but Shiki notices the temple(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    Ryougi cant see it?
    There was the point on Kirie's left chest that would be instant death and the spiraling lines on Araya. The former had a following conversation mentioning damage to the heart(thus instant death?) and while the latter did eventually kill his vessel he seemingly shrugs off getting struck in the rematch. Afaik the best indication that she might is her old mb profile saying the meodp visualizes death as lines and points.

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    With Araya having the Buddha's remains in his arms makes him immune to the MEODP iirc?

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    That just protected his left arm.

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    I wonder why even though Roa has Arcuied's power he doesnt get to use it every reincarnation hence him needing to gather power again. His knowledge doesnt get reset every reincarnation either unlike his power

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    He only has like a fingernail's worth of her power through their link. And vampires just be needing that human juice.

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    "If you seal him now, he'll still be holding on the power he stole from me, but if he's killed and reincarnatez, then he's unable to draw on my power. It may only be for ten years or so, but at least i'll feel a bit better"

    Wait does that mean during the period Roa is dead, Arcuied's powers returns to her or some part of it? So everytime Roa awakens, Arcuied kills him partly because he's passively draining her power?

    I initially thought he stole majority of her power when he was first bitten and once he died for good Arcuied would get her full power and control her impulses and all's well that ends well.

    Did i got that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    "If you seal him now, he'll still be holding on the power he stole from me, but if he's killed and reincarnatez, then he's unable to draw on my power. It may only be for ten years or so, but at least i'll feel a bit better"

    Wait does that mean during the period Roa is dead, Arcuied's powers returns to her or some part of it? So everytime Roa awakens, Arcuied kills him partly because he's passively draining her power?

    I initially thought he stole majority of her power when he was first bitten and once he died for good Arcuied would get her full power and control her impulses and all's well that ends well.

    Did i got that right?
    Most of Arcueid's power is being used to hold back the Vampiric Urge. And there isn't really any proper solution presented for that problem so far. I think a proper solution to that problem will be presented in New Arc True, allowing Arc and Shiki a happy ending together.

    On top of that Roa is holding yet another portion of her power, which is enough for Arcueid to revive herself after she dies in her ending. 80% of (Arcueid - Vamp Urge - Roa) = what she used to recover after Shiki killed her at the start, so that Roa part should be at least equal to that 80%.
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    Forgot she was asked "recently" what death perception is like

    The Shiki's presentation difference is probably intentional.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    Did i got that right?
    For starters the continuation of the paragraph you quoted has her compare Roa's use of her power to controlling her little finger. It doesn't seem like he has a huge amount of it but it is still annoying and problematic given her condition.
    However, there is no controlling her impulses for good. All TA use the majority of their power to suppress the bloodsucking urge. This is an urge that builds up regardless of their actions and will eventually make them become fallen. It's the end for those without a lifespan so to speak. Eternal sleep or losing one's consciousness and becoming a vampire who corrupt the world. Sucking blood even once exacerbates the problem. While the flaw results from the one they were based on, I think it might also be an intentional mechanism to facilitate CM's revival by ensuring the fading of the TA's reason.
    What If

    I think ultimately Sion joining the group will be key to remedying the issue. But who knows where is goes.

    Speaking of CM, I had a dream where Arach used Roa's ritual to awaken CRV(Moon) Akiha while loredumping that the Tohno line is actually another machination of CM.

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    I think Akiha's lineage just predates CM's arrival on Earth, being born once every 10k years. The number (10k) Arach gave is meaningful since she said 10, 100, 1000 years are all wrong; it's once every 10k years.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    I think the 10k years might just be more a measure of talent. As in compared to the acts of man, she's more so a miracle of god.

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    Yeah, I'm not really sure why everyone seems to be taking the once in ten thousand years bit literally. It's means she's super rare, not literally something that happens on a ten thousand year cycle (well, at least that's the obvious interpretation of the English line).
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    Considering Arach is a DAA, a group generally on the 4 digits of age, I took Akiha’s 5 digits mainly as Arach ranking Akiha above herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glazy View Post
    Also have a spaniard DAA would be sick
    Can I console you with a Spanish vampire hunter instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    I think Akiha's lineage just predates CM's arrival on Earth, being born once every 10k years. The number (10k) Arach gave is meaningful since she said 10, 100, 1000 years are all wrong; it's once every 10k years.
    I figured t'was something like the "1 in x years" thing for flood risk. So on average, every 10k years, one person with that level of power would be born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Considering Arach is a DAA, a group generally on the 4 digits of age, I took Akiha’s 5 digits mainly as Arach ranking Akiha above herself.
    Yeah, it's pretty clear the one in 10k years number is literal, or at the very least it's a more meaningful thing that just her being nebulously rare. Otherwise you wouldn't have gotten three options with her later saying 10, 100 and 1000 years are all wrong.

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    Also, both Roa and Shiki are stated to be one in a decade sort of talent.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    I didn’t say it was literal, I said it was uncharacteristically self-humbling. It can’t be literal because we don’t have a 10k year old character capable of doing the math.

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