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    Besides that though, gotta say this dialogue reads really well. Nasu’s prose feel far better kept here than in Mahoyo, it feels very strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    The way they handle the intro intro of Remake in the localization is really bad, the Fan TL handled this flawlessly so I don’t know how they just didn’t make some basic changes to account for the voice only dialogue.
    It's frankly embarrassing. FGO-year-one level of effort was put into that intro.

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    I double checked and if you go and recheck out the intro in the Flowchart it’ll have all Voice only dialogue translated and stuff since rather than a video it’s actually playable, but I wish they did a better job subbing it. It’s kind of annoying I’ll have to inform anybody who plays the game that “Oh you should probably go through the Prologue again in the flow chart to make sure you get all the dialogue.”
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    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    I double checked and if you go and recheck out the intro in the Flowchart it’ll have all Voice only dialogue translated and stuff since rather than a video it’s actually playable, but I wish they did a better job subbing it. It’s kind of annoying I’ll have to inform anybody who plays the game that “Oh you should probably go through the Prologue again in the flow chart to make sure you get all the dialogue.”
    Thanks for the headsup. We're just letting play through and we'll go back from the flowchart to experience it properly.
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    Just a few. Top is the localization. Bottom Tsukihimates. Imgur: The magic of the Internet

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    Yeah, I think I prefer the FanTL. There's a bit more dramatic flair to the FanTL while the localization seems to be more simplistic. I have no idea which is more faithful but maybe im just biased
    Last edited by Reverse_side98; June 29th, 2024 at 09:37 AM.

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    Hmm, I think Tsukimates tries to convey the nuance of the original Japanese a lot more closely. Plus the ruby text helps a lot.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    I double checked and if you go and recheck out the intro in the Flowchart it’ll have all Voice only dialogue translated and stuff since rather than a video it’s actually playable, but I wish they did a better job subbing it. It’s kind of annoying I’ll have to inform anybody who plays the game that “Oh you should probably go through the Prologue again in the flow chart to make sure you get all the dialogue.”
    Actually one question related to that: when does the Flowchart become usable?
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
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    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
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    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
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    After the prologue iirc. Tap square and the option should be there.
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    I think the localization is okay. It wasn't awful, nor was it particularly noteworthy.
    Some of Nasu's prose is lost, but compare to Mahoyo the result is much smoother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomPen94 View Post
    After the prologue iirc. Tap square and the option should be there.
    So far, I can't seem to be able to select either the intro nor the prologue. Oh well.
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
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    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
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    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
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    It unlocks after the Aoko prologue.

    You have to go to the main menu and gallery to select the Prologue or Glass Moon though unlike the rest of the game.
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    The vibe I get from the localization is that Tsukihimates does a better job on the more complex dialogue but the Official does a better job at the more traditional lines. It’s not in here but there’s one example where Mario calls Arcueid a “Failed Human” in Tsukihimates and the localization instead goes for “Fuckup” which is taking a bit of liberty but gets most of the nuance without sounding weird.

    Tsukihimates was clearly very careful at making sure to retain Nasu’s prose, and while the localization also clearly cares about that, it’s a bit more willing to take liberties.

    Edit: Thank you by the way Nanaya, it’s really appreciated to have some side by sides handy.
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    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    It unlocks after the Aoko prologue.

    You have to go to the main menu and gallery to select the Prologue or Glass Moon though unlike the rest of the game.
    So that's it! Thanks a lot mate!
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
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    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
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    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
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    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
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    It doesn't matter how easy it is to look up, you don't check things you're fully confident to know the answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    I double checked and if you go and recheck out the intro in the Flowchart it’ll have all Voice only dialogue translated and stuff since rather than a video it’s actually playable, but I wish they did a better job subbing it. It’s kind of annoying I’ll have to inform anybody who plays the game that “Oh you should probably go through the Prologue again in the flow chart to make sure you get all the dialogue.”
    The otome game bustafellows has a similar issue where all the background voiced dialogue is shown in the text log only

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    So what's the deal with Goto again? As in, the theories? I know he's there to set up Far Side stuff but I remember glossing over theories about him. Just... not what said theories were.
    Petri's arbitrary limit
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    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shade696 View Post
    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    It doesn't matter how easy it is to look up, you don't check things you're fully confident to know the answer.



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    He only shows up in 4 scenes (technically 5 but the dialogue is identical just in a slightly different location) and 3 of those are optional. What we know about him is he’s somebody from the Branch families, he doesn’t like Shiki whatsoever, and he calls Hisui and Kohaku respectfully for some reason despite the idea of them being friends being something he actively laughs at.

    The most common idea is that he’s created for Hisui Route due to a comment from the Arcueid Memo by Nasu, he mentions an idea about a Branch family member chasing Hisui around. The idea is likely to capitalize on Shiki being sick, with him being bedridden Hisui is now defenseless and Goto would act as an aggressor, very Horror Movie like. The Saiki last name was notable for being brought up in Red Demon God as well. He’s likely also connected to the classic Inversion Impulse incident from the past, although in what capacity is unknown.

    We don’t have too much on him but he certainly feels more antagonistic than anything, however I feel he also gives the vibe of not being pure evil somehow. The anthology mangas have him show up on very rare occasions and he can be rather goofy at times, he gives the vibes of a more complex antagonist.

    Hard to get a read on him with so little known though, we don’t even know what plans he has, all he does is antagonize Shiki constantly. One of the biggest question marks imo
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Alright, thanks!

    Other question, that's more for Tsuki in general since it's a scene that's in both version:
    What happened during the dog nightly incident, when Shiki first glimpses the mid-boss Vampire (Vlov or Chaos)? Bounded Field that he bypassed through his Nanaya blood but affectes everyone else? Or something else?
    Petri's arbitrary limit
    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    write a really long story featuring "why my relationships with young girls are totally innocent"
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    This is the real reason why we all come to BL btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shade696 View Post
    Thank you for coming to this failure of a post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Your gay awakening is far more interesting than any discussion on Beast's Lair the past few weeks
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    It doesn't matter how easy it is to look up, you don't check things you're fully confident to know the answer.



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    Tbh, I’m not sure? This has also always confused me for why only he notices it. I wonder if the others did notice it but are just trying to keep Supernatural stuff on the down low since they think Shikiller is normal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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