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    No that wasn't to you, I was just trying to figure out how to turn one into the other

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    No that wasn't to you, I was just trying to figure out how to turn one into the other
    アルカード A-ru-ka-a-do
    アルクェイド A-ru-kwe-i-do

    They're pretty close, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    So, cosidering Noel arcade ending in melty, my theory of her eventually joining a new BAA seems at least possible.

    She will check on sacchin, either she saves her, but noel is not strong enought , or sacchin turns her.
    I read that more as Noel sitting on her ass while Sacchin is wandering into a alley and getting turned by Roa just 100 feet away.

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    Arcueid actually dies in Ciel route or am I reading this wrong

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    I'm starting to believe Arcueid really does not have a concept of death.

    In any case, no. She doesn't die.

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    Arcueid can be killed/die.

    she just have almost infinite life spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    I'm starting to believe Arcueid really does not have a concept of death.

    In any case, no. She doesn't die.
    Doesn't she basically go, "Screw this! I'm going home!"?

    Also, I thought even in original canon, she had no concept of death under the full moon?
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Under the full-moon.

    I mean in general. She just seems impossible to get rid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    That reminds me.

    Was the rainbow motif something that was present in the original? The normal ending title is brand new, I think?

    Either way, it was a great theme to tie Ciel's character resolution around.

    Calvaria's Star even kind of looks like a rainbow.
    something something Ronnie James Dio, again and again

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    arcueid is a touhou character.
    ひゃく
    じゅつ
    せん
    りょ


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown View Post
    It's a daily message in Kagetsu Tohya
    Don't think it comes from there

    https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...=Kagetsu+daily
    don't quote me on this

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    I was editing Celestial Conception again today and realized something. In that scene, Roa's records lets him partially understand what is going on, despite Roa's soul already being incinerated.

    So despite the annihilation of Roa 'as a soul', his information still lingers within Shiki. Perhaps this is why Shiki's body is still partially vampirized even after Roa dies.
    Last edited by Petrikow; October 7th, 2021 at 07:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Isn't it this?

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    アルクェイドの綴りはArcueid。
    ドラキュラの逆さ読みとちょっと似ているのは、偶然なんですよ~。
    I guess it was slightly misremembered though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    I read that more as Noel sitting on her ass while Sacchin is wandering into a alley and getting turned by Roa just 100 feet away.
    That would not be OOC for her, but is just not true. You watched it all the way? She is .." hum..i pretend i didnt saw anything or check.." then."eh..im in good mood..could do a little help"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    That would not be OOC for her, but is just not true. You watched it all the way? She is .." hum..i pretend i didnt saw anything or check.." then."eh..im in good mood..could do a little help"
    To be honest, I worry it means that she'll attack Satsuki the instant she realises what happened to her. Because if Satsuki is entering a Back Alley, chances are she'll have already been turned.

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    Of course she will, ust pointing out she was not ignoring the matter. Its an arcade ending, after all, we can just headcanon how that encounter would go, it could be just an arcade ending without much tought, or at best, a hint for something in satsuki rute .
    Noel could not beat turned satsuki , tought , if we follow logic , is mots likely she would get the bite again, but we know butterfly loli noel just happened because arach , a sacchin bite should turn her in a "dead" or noting at all. I admit the prospect of butterfly noel in more "grey" role and joining a future BAA gives me some fun
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    This is a mild pet-peeve of mine, but I hate that people keep conflating the 'titles' of the Dead Apostle Ancestors that Ciel has killed, with the names of the Idea Bloods that Arcueid names as having been defeated. It's so bad I even found it happening on Ciel's pixiv dictionary entry.

    「だから初めてじゃねえんだよ、あの女の二十七祖殺しは。
     『森』と『城』を含めてこれで三体目だ」

    This is what Mario mentions. Nothing about Idea Blood or Principles here, sir.

    「『二十七祖』というのは在り方を示す呼称だから変わらないけど、実際にはえーと……残り二十 一祖かな?
     ヴローヴが継承していたアッフェンバウムの原理、
     『実り』の原理、『城、即ち王国』の原理、
     『剣』の原理、
     それと教会に封印された『熔ける』原理、
     『四肢』の原理……」

    This is what Arcueid mentions. Keep in mind she never mentions 'forest' as an Idea Blood. Armed with Arcueid's knowledge, we can even know that 'forest' is not an Idea Blood by just lining up the facts. Mario mentions 'forest' is defeated -> Arcueid mentions the Idea Bloods that have all been defeated -> 'forest' is not among them -> ergo, 'forest' is not an Idea Blood.

    She does mention castle, but even that has a different name as an Idea Blood, namely; 'castle, therefore kingdom'. This indicates further that what Mario mentioned was just codenames for the Dead Apostle Ancestors Ciel had killed.

    Bonus: This means that there probably is a candidate among the Idea Bloods mentioned by Arcueid corresponding to 'forest'. In fact, let's line up all of them.

    'sword' = Be'ze (we can say this with 100% certainty since Ciel spells it out for us in Ciel True)
    'castle, therefore kingdom' = Chromclay Petastructure (Similarily, spelled out to us in Ciel's route)
    [Vlov/Zaria's Idea Blood] (not given a name by Arcueid)
    'limbs' = Merem Solomon ("Sealed by the church" could simply mean he's their collaborator now, like in the old lore. Given Noel doesn't know who the fifth member of the Burial Agency is (his old seat) this seems almost a given. I suppose its worth mentioning the name itself, which is a dead ringer for Merem, but that much ought to be obvious)
    'melting' = El Nahat? (The name seems to liken his ability from the old continuity. In addition, this is another one mentioned as "sealed by the church" which was very much the case for El-Nahat)
    'harvest' = Einnashe, aka, 'forest'. (The only one remaining, the name seems to have some connection with Einnashe of the old continuity as well)

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    I think Einnashe is staying simply by virtue of a Child of Einnashe playing a role in Case Files. A character mentioned that recently likely isn't getting retconned entirely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    That and Einnashe's name is clearly readable on the list.

    Fou is the only demoted DAA.

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    That much was never in question, at least for me. I suppose I never made the question clear. Simply put: "can we tie 'harvest' to Einnashe based only on old information?"

    That said, I do feel like it is the most likely possibility.

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