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    I think the Crimson Moon was just Shiki looking so deep that he was about to touch on the truth of it all. I'd be surprised if this doesn't come up again. Wasn't Shiki doing something weird with Nero back in the OG too? He was like reading his thoughts or something. The retrocognition on Vlov might be some extension of that.

    Even if Mario isn't wrong about forming your own idea blood, it might just be the 27 are something even more special.

    Speaking of Nero, I wonder if the beast Vlov killed outside the estate may have been one of Nero's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    Speaking of Nero, I wonder if the beast Vlov killed outside the estate may have been one of Nero's?
    I'm like 90% sure that its a dog that Vlov turned into a familiar, hence why it disappeared.

    Naturally, it later appears in the corridor attacking Shiki with another familiar dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    I'm like 90% sure that its a dog that Vlov turned into a familiar, hence why it disappeared.

    Naturally, it later appears in the corridor attacking Shiki with another familiar dog.
    Ya, that is what I suspect it will be. It makes the most sense. But man, would it be cool if that was just a subtle hint to the OG and Nero is actually prowling around.
    Maybe that's why Ciel isn't around too much in Arc route.

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    still a mystery why only Shiki was able to hear the howling of the dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    Ya, that is what I suspect it will be. It makes the most sense. But man, would it be cool if that was just a subtle hint to the OG and Nero is actually prowling around.
    Maybe that's why Ciel isn't around too much in Arc route.
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    I can dream that they're wrong lol.

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    wonder how Arach was undetectable by Arcueid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    still a mystery why only Shiki was able to hear the howling of the dog.
    That was in the OG too. Maybe some weird sensory shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    That was in the OG too. Maybe some weird sensory shit.
    Probably more easily explained by Kohaku and Akiha lying. Remember Kohaku actually helps cover up Shiki's murder of Arcueid, all while trying to convince him nothing happened. They're probably intentionally trying to keep Shiki in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    17回にも及ぶ転生
    SHIKI being the the 18th Roa (original + 17 reincarnations), like the 800 years thing, is leftovers from the old lore, which shouldn't be there if that part of the script had a bit
    more polish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    それから現代まで転生した回数は16回。そのことごとくを、アルクェイド・ブリュンスタッドは殺害しています」
    Ciel gets the XV label from Roa and the Quinze derogatory nickname from the Church, so I think we can be sure Ciel is 15 and Caps is 16, with Mike Origin being 0 instead of 1.

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    It does definitely does get a bit annoying that disparities like this exist in the text. Because right before the 16 reincarnations thing (new lore) is a statement about him reincarnating for 800 years (old lore). Please... Nasu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    wonder how Arach was undetectable by Arcueid.
    she subconsciously ignored him because arc has arach-naphobia
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    Arcueid did detect Arach in Cielís route, when she spent a whole day in the mansion waiting for Shiki to come back from school.

    But be careful. This mansion is not good for you. The moisture is unbearable.

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    Keep in mind that there's a strange contradiction of the timing of when Roa reincarnates, for example it was 2001 when Roa Elesia participated in that ritual, but since the Remake is supposed to take place in 2014, that means SHIKI was already born by that point in time.

    It appears to be the case that when a version of Roa dies, his next incarnation has potentially already been born. Most likely due to Reincarnation not being bound by time. Meaning that extra time could have compounded into the 800 years mentioned, if we include the time that Roa's original personalities have not yet been subsumed. Thoughts?

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    So basically, barring True Ancestors, who are not undead to begin with, the more sapient the vampire, the more photosensitive they are? https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_Apostle Seems to me, it's like: the more of your nervous system recovers, the more aware of the pain of decay that sunlight causes that you feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    she subconsciously ignored him because arc has arach-naphobia
    Arach is woman though?
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Arcueid did detect Arach in Ciel’s route, when she spent a whole day in the mansion waiting for Shiki to come back from school.
    she was referring to Arach? not the Tohno mansion itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalLoliLover View Post
    So basically, barring True Ancestors, who are not undead to begin with, the more sapient the vampire, the more photosensitive they are? https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_Apostle Seems to me, it's like: the more of your nervous system recovers, the more aware of the pain of decay that sunlight causes that you feel.
    Keep in mind that the wiki is unreliable at the best of times, but... it would explain why Shiki and Arc could face the Dead in broad daylight without them being harmed. And that info does come from the most recent update to the wiki thanks to the remake, so it might be trustworthy...

    Also, it's a bit more like an arc, where the lower ranks are less harmed by the sun, but stronger ranks gradually become resistant to those effects. According to the wiki though, which as I've already said, is unreliable.

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    So basically:
    1. Lower ranks don't have the nervous system to care.
    2. Upper ranks have the power to overcome it.
    3. Middle ranks have the sensitivity but not the power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    she was referring to Arach? not the Tohno mansion itself?
    Why would "moisture" be a warning if Sumire isn't present?

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    so Arach = Sumire confirmed?

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