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    my brain immediately deletes the information to preserve my faith in humanity
    The fact that you apparently have any faith left is a miracle
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    It matter doesn't I if have dyslexia, because can people it read anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Lip (somehow) puts a shirt on in FGO
    So the issue is that you're horrified by naked women? lol.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Lip (somehow) puts a shirt on in FGO

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    Everytime someone reminds me of these my brain immediately deletes the information to preserve my faith in humanity
    As a Type-Moon fan you should have lost that faith long long time ago...

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    "The Moon is whack, yo." - Ziz, probably.
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    SHIKI’s gonna go “I might be out of blood… but I’m not out of options Akiha”

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    If Shiki is Roa XVI how do you guys think they're gonna handle it without making it just a redux of Ciel's character arc? Is it just going to be a wholesale rejection of the idea of atonement since Shiki isn't good at heart like Ciel is? Far Side's attitude towards murder is much more "Yeah it sucks but sometimes it happens" and I wonder if the changes and additions to Shiki's arc are gonna reflect that.

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    That is the problem i see with the "Shiki is Roa 16" theory, because you have to address this problem and make a believable enough explanation of not only why the same is not happening, but also why Roa never even mentions this
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    SHIKI’s gonna go “I might be out of blood… but I’m not out of options Akiha”

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    if SHIKI really did steal/plunder Roa out of Shiki right as he manifested, or even accidentally, before he manifested at all, would there be a moment to bring it up? outside of that one statement in Arc route where the Dying Roa tries to transfer into Shiki saying that they are connected before Ciel deals the finishing blow

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    Satsuki route/True Arc.For example SHIKI is killed and Roa returns to Shiki's body,but Satsuki turns into a vampire.And since Roa saw great potential in Satsuki as mini Arc you have VERY spicy situation where Shiki is in love with Satsuki,but it's so over,Roa is in control and needs Satsuki to show Arc very big middle finger.Also Arach is helping Satsuki because that is her kink to help the weak and since Satsuki is in love with Shiki it makes her even worse.Also bro Nero is on Roa's side,so we have really awesome team Shiki/Roa-Satsuki-Nero-Arach to show Arcueid that she is the worst girl in Tsuki.

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    SHIKI fits Roa's MO of choosing people who are innately powerful and/or who are from wealthy and well-connected families, I can't see there being a particular reason for him to want Shiki as a host.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    SHIKI fits Roa's MO of choosing people who are innately powerful and/or who are from wealthy and well-connected families, I can't see there being a particular reason for him to want Shiki as a host.
    It probably happened by mistake. Roa chooses hosts with divination, which would imply reading the future. So he identifies “a child named Shiki Tohno living in this mansion in the year of X” and the divination process gets confused. The fact their names are spelled the same in Roman characters could unironically be a plot point here, given Roa is using a western foundation.

    Although, that sounds slightly comical when written out. I do think we’re missing a few pieces.

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    Character takes an L for not speaking Japanese, what did Nasu mean by this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    It probably happened by mistake. Roa chooses hosts with divination, which would imply reading the future. So he identifies “a child named Shiki Tohno living in this mansion in the year of X” and the divination process gets confused. The fact their names are spelled the same in Roman characters could unironically be a plot point here, given Roa is using a western foundation.

    Although, that sounds slightly comical when written out. I do think we’re missing a few pieces.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adventures vol 7 Comun summary
    Waver explains about luck, winning streaks, maturity of chances, and other superstitions that play a part in gambling. And that's all mostly bullshit. Probabilities aren't affected by past patterns unless there is a mage involved in the event. Any and all magecraft is intrinsically manipulating probability to some extent in order to cheat the world. Gray remembers the one astrology class she took saying that fortune-telling is not only about knowing probable futures, it's also about affecting them. The presence or absence of a mage creates predictable patterns in fate, much like the presence or absence of an observer creates patterns in quantum physics. Every living mage is a statistical anomaly, and the more powerful they are, the more they twist the fates of others. There's an element of entertainment to the creation of Van-Fem's mage casino, but at the same time, it's also a successful project to create the most statistically off-base place in the whole world. Crazy things happen here a lot due to this developed propensity for the improbable.



    Psychic Abilities

    Special abilities endowed to the body from birth such as those possessed by Shiki, Kohaku and Hisui are known as physic abilities.
    Whether it be through training or studies, they are impossible to obtain after birth, no matter the method.
    Through successive inbreeding, it's possible to pass these psychic abilities on to some extent, even if it's not possible to perfectly reproduce the ability possessed by the parent.
    Shiki could be seen as an even further mutation, as he belongs to the Nanaya clan, who have passed along one of these mutations for generations.
    (*The Nanayas’ special ability is not associated with ‘death’, but rather concerns ‘karma’. The reason this altered into ‘death’ in Shiki's case is because of his near-death experience)
    "You look like you're in a real fix, chief."
    "What's your game?"
    "As overseer, I thought I'd give you some tips for staying alive." Hansa matter-of-factly addressed the chief, indifferent to Jester, who was hanging his head in silence. "You can't handle a Dead Apostle of his level unless you use specialized consecrated weapons... or you have a 'singularity' like mystic eyes or therianthropy, or else you're just that good a mage."
    "..."
    Not singularity like the FGO singularity but possibly means something super special like a whirlpool that pulls in the fate of others?
    When using divination Roa is selecting the future
    At the same time Shiki seems to have more karmic pull than SHIKI
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adventures vol 7
    「我々魔術師は、ひとりひとりが確率の歪みなんだ。もうちょっと大雑把に神秘そのものがと言ってもいい。水 面を搔き回している渦を思うといい。強大な魔術師や神秘であるほど、大きな渦になり、他人の運命をも捻じ曲 げてしまう。だから、ヴァン=フェム氏がカジノを開いているというのは、単なる道楽以上の意味がある。おそ らくこのカジノは世界でもとびきり確率の偏差が大きい場所だ。その偏りによってさまざまなドラマが生まれた ことだろう。もちろんイカサマを疑われることもあるのだろうが、当然対策はしてあるはずだ」


    "Each magus distorts probability. Or you could say in a general sense, we are mystery. Think of it like a maelstrom churning the water's surface. The stronger the magus or mystery, the bigger the maelstrom and the more it twists the fate of others. That's why Mr. Van Fem did not open this casino as a mere hobby. His casino may have the highest number of probabilistic outliers in the entire world. This high degree of deviation must have caused much drama. I'm sure there are many times when cheating was suspected, but he must employ countermeasures."
    addenum for why I am trying to link the description of mystic eyes as a singularity with how they influence the fate of others
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventures vol 7 Comun summary
    The presence or absence of a mage creates predictable patterns in fate, much like the presence or absence of an observer creates patterns in quantum physics
    Do they fuck this explanation up by thinking observer means a person looking at something

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    something something sight is the first magecraft
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    You're free, Raff. You're free...

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    addenum for why I am trying to link the description of mystic eyes as a singularity with how they influence the fate of others
    It's mentioned several times that having Mystic Eyes affects your fate in some way. I vaguely recall this is demonstrated most clearly with Ophelia; for example the moment she entered the Scandinavian Lostbelt, it became destined that Surt would break free and destroy the world, but I think it gets a mention in Case Files too, with how Trisha and Carabo's lives are directed and controlled by their Mystic Eyes.

    or something like that

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    Oh yeah, the anime has Will's case too. His Fairy Eyes mean he's inexorably linked with Faye.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Do they fuck this explanation up by thinking observer means a person looking at something
    You know for a fact they almost certainly did screw it up. (Granted, that could work since Waver could claim that they're using the popular perception/misconception of quantum physics, but whatever).
    You are not immune to propoganda, probably.


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    It'd be cute if she cameo in Ciel sensei

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    From her website it seems she isn't aware the remake VN is available in english. Or isn't acknowledging it because she doesn't wanna sit through it.

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    Who are we talking about?
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    "The Moon is whack, yo." - Ziz, probably.
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    SHIKI’s gonna go “I might be out of blood… but I’m not out of options Akiha”

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