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Thread: Super Tsukihime Remake Spoiler Thread

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    アルテミット・ワン Ultimate One asterism42's Avatar
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    Satsuki's parent vampire is Roa, right?

    In the original continuity, I mean; idk if it'd be the same here
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Yes. Should be the same in the remake, although she now has two extra viable candidates in Vlov and Arach. Her amazing evolution could also become an Arach thing instead of Satsuki just being built different.

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    Zelretch profile from the new Comiket book




    Interesting insights:
    - Zelretch was not turned by CM, but by the previous No.3 Ancestor
    - Zelretch used to have blond hair before growing old
    - The Second Magic works through jewels. Zelretch connects to jewels in another parallel universe, and connect his soul to them until he takes their place. Once he leaves that parallel dimension, his body turns back to jewels.
    - The Second Magic's establishment lead to the further survival of mankind, by expanding the possibilities allowed by it.
    - Zelretch was one of Solomon's pupils
    - Brishisan (here spelled alternatively as ブリサン rather than ブリシサン, perhaps someone else?) founded the Association with some help from Zelretch.
    - Zelretch made some sort of promise with Yumina that makes him feel like occasionally helping out the Association.
    - Zelretch goes to tea-parties with the "3 idiots Agape, Caubac and Lovematroos", all Dead Apostles.
    - Zelretch describes Christianity as a "Mankind Expansion Manual"
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    other TA are quite friendly with Zel, that's interesting.

    so there's a possibility Agape is going to be ally in Tsukihime?

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    Explains why he's associated with mineralogy, at least

    Also why his sword is a crystal
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    I guess this proves that jumping timelines willy nilly really is easier said than done that even the 2nd magic has something of a workaround to do it

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    "Arcueid, you were supposed to destroy Crimson Moon, not become it!"

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    If Arc is Vader, is Shiki some weird take on Luke?

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    I suddenly remember that statement from Nasu about how AOG mages like Medea are incompatible with the True Magics and was thinking then how the heck did Zelretch, who's also an AOG mage, create it?

    Even if lets say he created it after 1000 years or so its still within the period of the AOG plus the fact that the 3rd Magic was also founded within the AOG.

    Still no idea what makes True Magic special and what separates it from just magecraft

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    Because he was taught by Solomon, who created the modern Western magecraft system
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Yeah that statement probably already got retconned a long ass time ago

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    - The Second Magic works through jewels. Zelretch connects to jewels in another parallel universe, and connect his soul to them until he takes their place. Once he leaves that parallel dimension, his body turns back to jewels.
    Cool how looking through the reflections in a diamond leads to looking through dimensions.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    does the c100 book contain canon, up-to-date information or it's considered as some old draft?

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    Oh we're discussing this here, I brought it up in the Comiket thread.

    Zelretch being Solomon's students on the one hand makes sense since he was one of the Associaton's founders, but on the other he was already alive for that long before becoming a vampire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    I suddenly remember that statement from Nasu about how AOG mages like Medea are incompatible with the True Magics and was thinking then how the heck did Zelretch, who's also an AOG mage, create it?

    Even if lets say he created it after 1000 years or so its still within the period of the AOG plus the fact that the 3rd Magic was also founded within the AOG.

    Still no idea what makes True Magic special and what separates it from just magecraft
    Mahoyo explores a bit what makes the modern Five True Magics special, but it's still an ongoing mystery.

    Also AoG magecraft was basically praying to a god to get a spell, once the AoG ended that whole approach changed (with some exceptions like Philosophy Magecraft or Japanese Magecraft).

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    Also what's this book called?

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    Lovematroos
    nasu still has it with these names

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    Also what's this book called?
    TM Manuscript.

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    is Lovematroos an Ancestor or regular DA?

    couldn't find the name or initial on the new DAA list.

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    Might be part of an obscured last name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown View Post
    nasu still has it with these names
    I mean, he named a guy God Be Back, mate.

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