A Fond Farewell to TYPE-Moon

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

I was about to contest calling it Tolkien too but you beat me to it.

But Rowling? She's like a shadow of her former self from when she was at her peak.

I intentionally made a bad comparison.

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Nasu and Tolkien may or may not have things in common, but I'd personally say their similarities are so general as to be meaningless as points of comparison.
I struggle to see *any* similarity between Rowling and Nasu, though, other than the vaguest ones - "they both have magical societies hidden among modern society", for example -, which are even more meaningless for comparison.

Again, the Rowling thing was me making an intentionally bad comparison.

[Byegod]

If you're going to compare Type Moon to any Western fantasy universe, I think Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere is the closest thing.

I take offense as cosmere has such a good internally consistent magic system vs nasu's magic system

[Ideofago]

The only thing pretending to be retarded gets you is, well, being treated as though you retarded.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this, but I thought it was pretty clear I was joking from the "In Summary". I don't disagree with Dullahan's literary analysis.

[asterism42]

But Rowling? She's like a shadow of her former self from when she was at her peak.

The moment I truly became an adult was when I looked back and realized that Rowling was never a good writer.

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You are right that she's exponentially worse than she was 20 years ago, though

[Deathhappens]

DEEZ NUTS HA GOTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM

I honestly don't know how to respond to this, but I thought it was pretty clear I was joking from the "In Summary". I don't disagree with Dullahan's literary analysis.

And making an off-color, lowest common denominator joke when someone has taken the time to post a thoughtful and in-depth answer for you is precisely what I meant by acting retarded.

[Ideofago]

And making an off-color, lowest common denominator joke when someone has taken the time to post a thoughtful and in-depth answer for you is precisely what I meant by acting retarded.

I replied to a joke with a joke.

[Malgos]

I never liked Harry Potter. Disliked the first movie and I also got the fourth book, I think, for some reason as a gift. Maybe cause it was new and they assumed I was actually following the series? Also I really hate their word for non magical people. It sounds so stupid to me.

[mAc Chaos]

I replied to a joke with a joke.

bro im sorry but you have to hold the L, it was a dumb post

[eddyak]

You guys do realise Harry Potter was always a kids' book, right?

The legions of people I see who, having grown up, turn around and go "well now looking back it's obvious she's a hack and thebooks weren't that good to begin with"- No shit, it's twenty years later (jesus is it actually twenty years now? I'm ooooooooold) and it was always a series about the magic of magic, aimed almost entirely at kids who grew up with the series.

[SeiKeo]

You guys do realise Harry Potter was always a kids' book, right?

The legions of people I see who, having grown up, turn around and go "well now looking back it's obvious she's a hack and thebooks weren't that good to begin with"

Let's also be honest that this is cope for having enjoyed something you now understand you should find problematic

[asterism42]

There are plenty of children's/YA books that I still enjoy as an adult

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Saying "it's bad because it's for children" is an extremely stupid take for several different reasons

[Byegod]

I did a reread of deltora quest a while back, those really felt like... myths or fairy tales to me due to the riddles and puzzles and stuff

[Hermitfold]

There are plenty of children's/YA books that I still enjoy as an adult

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Saying "it's bad because it's for children" is an extremely stupid take for several different reasons

Recently reread Animorphs. They still hold up really well.

[Ideofago]

bro im sorry but you have to hold the L, it was a dumb post

I don't disagree, but while it was dumb, it was a joke.

[ResidentSeagull]

You guys do realise Harry Potter was always a kids' book, right?

The legions of people I see who, having grown up, turn around and go "well now looking back it's obvious she's a hack and thebooks weren't that good to begin with"- No shit, it's twenty years later (jesus is it actually twenty years now? I'm ooooooooold) and it was always a series about the magic of magic, aimed almost entirely at kids who grew up with the series.

I would more explain that with the fact that you're just much more easily impressed when you're a kid. Kids books are, quality wise, just like all other books: some are really good, some are really bad and most are just mediocre. The main thing is that as we age, our tastes develop and our critical thinking skills (hopefully) also develop. So it's natural for there to be a discrepancy between how much you enjoy stuff now and when you were a kid. Of course, a lot of kids books deal with subject matter and themes for kids, so normally older people don't really resonate with them. As asterism said though, that doesn't mean that you can't go back and find that a kids book tackle various subject matter, whether it be for kids or adults, in a sophisticated way and therefore really enjoy it. That takes writing skill, though, which not that many people have.

In my instance I remember loving Percy Jackson books when I was a younger, but when I tried to read some of Riordan's later books a couple of years ago...I honestly couldn't get that far. I guess I just outgrew the man's style.

Also FYI I read all the Harry Potter books, but even if you forced a gun to my head I couldn't tell you anything about them. I just don't remember one goddamn line from them. Nowadays I respect the movies a lot more, purely for the effort that went into the production, set design and special effects, if nothing else.

[Mattias]

I actually respect the movies less. Not only for cutting plenty of things, but also for all the added JK-isms that weren't there in the books. Like as a friend pointed out to me recently, the Irish kid who's only really shown blowing things up. Or the fact that the Goblins=Jews becomes so much more obvious when you see the bank with a bunch of Stars of David on the floor.

[ResidentSeagull]

True.

[Malgos]

You guys do realise Harry Potter was always a kids' book, right?

Yes I have realized that and I disliked it as a child.

[ResidentSeagull]

Based

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

I actually respect the movies less. Not only for cutting plenty of things, but also for all the added JK-isms that weren't there in the books. Like as a friend pointed out to me recently, the Irish kid who's only really shown blowing things up. Or the fact that the Goblins=Jews becomes so much more obvious when you see the bank with a bunch of Stars of David on the floor.

To be fair, I think Seamus Finnigan got new life of his own in the movies, and the goblins = Jews comparison was Rowling's attempt to critique anti-Semitism. It kinda fell flat in the Deathly Hallows with Griphook, but the attempt was there. Rowling did better with werewolves as AIDS sufferers.