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    St. Cotominus the Easterner

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    That DAA Ciel got [Sword] from without killing or sealing them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lake View Post
    That DAA Ciel got [Sword] from without killing or sealing them?
    Be'ze?

    I doubt it. Though it is true that their name nickname was swordmonk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Be'ze?

    I doubt it. Though it is true that their name nickname was swordmonk.
    Vampire hunter has to be one of the professions with the higher risk of vampirization, too.
    don't quote me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Vampire hunter has to be one of the professions with the higher risk of vampirization, too.
    That's true. I was mostly thinking out of a "well, can we really know?" kind of perspective.

    In some ways Be'ze is the only candidate we could have as the identity for this mysterious person. Though the question is if this is even meant to be a person we are aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Vampire hunter has to be one of the professions with the higher risk of vampirization, too.
    That's a pretty good idea. Gives him enough time to develop a principle as well. One would imagine him training both Bloble and Ciel means he wasn't officially part of the Church after that and just picked up worthy students who went to him or sth.

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    I'd expect most high ranking DAs to be probably ex-churchies, ex-magi or assorted supernaturals I guess. Plus the occasional Sacchin.
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    don't quote me on this

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    Well, dunno about the remake, but in OG even Zel didnt manage to get out of his fight with a vampire un-turned.

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    However... Black Keys are also an unreliable weapon, like a bow and arrow, its effectiveness changing depending on the userís skill and magical energy levels.
    「すみません、魔力でいいんですか?」
    Shiki: Sorry, you are fine with magical energy now?
    「面倒なのでもういいです。
     聖堂教会は魔術協会と反目しているので呼称にはとてもうるさいのですが、どうでもいい問題な ので」
    Ciel: Itís annoying so itís fine.
    I guess this answers my old question about Kirei actually having normal magic circuits under the name of church propaganda and not special church circuits

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    That being said, Kirei did get them quite miraculously, being from a non-mage lineage and all.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    Do we know for sure? Wasnt Kirei a gift from
    God
    propaganda
    ? Maybe his mom had circuits?

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    Look, we know so little about the circumstances behind his conception that I half seriously entertain an mpreg Risei headcanon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    Im just saying, why attribute to randomness that which is unknown/unknowable

    Then again i guess "God blessed Kirei with the ability to replicate miracles" could just be slang for "Yo Risei, i see you kid randomly grew circuits". But , it could also just be that "For his years of dedicated service... The church looked the other way when Risei fucked a mage"

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    Also also, we know the church thinks mages=bad but do we know their stance on just having circuits?

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    The idea of Risei fucking honestly does not compute. Like I mean he theoretically had to do it (in the most mundane of circumstances), but I can't get my brain to accept that for real.

    Also, do we know if Kirei has a Tsukihime counterpart?
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    There’s no reason why he wouldn’t have one.

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    No reason for Caren to be deleted that badly. As it is, she can still be in the back of Mr Dawn's truck.

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    Also, does the Burial Agency exist in Fate worlds, or do they only exist in worlds with DAAs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    I speak for the majority of important people* *a category comprised entirely of myself

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    DAs are still a thing in Fate worlds, and it's not like the Burial Agency only takes the Ancestors down.
    So I'd reckon they'll still exist there.

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    finally finished all routes.

    now working on completing flow chart.

    so I have question, how can I get the very last CG on Ciel true route?
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    Seventh Holy Scripture

     7.62mmの火花を散らす投石機。
     戦場において過剰火力と言われる大口径の弾丸が吸血鬼に放たれる。
     8mm、9mmに代表される、兵士を負傷させ戦闘不能にする為の暴力ではない。
     これは肉と鉄を吹き飛ばす為に調整された、吸血鬼殺しの近代兵器。
     名は『<焼死|ブレイズ>』。
     七つの死因を持つ聖典から分かれた、代行者シエルの専用礼装。
    A catapult giving off 7.62mm sparks.
    A large calibre of bullet, which on the battlefield is said to be excessive firepower, is let loose onto the vampire.
    It is not the type of brute force meant for injuring and incapacitating soldiers, as represented by the 8 and 9mm.
    It is a modern weapon meant for vampire killing, modified for the purpose of blowing away flesh and iron.
    Its name is "
    Blaze
    Death by Immolation
    ".

    Executor Ciel's personal Formal Wear, divided from the Holy Scripture possessing the seven causes of death.

    『―――主の御名において、第三の死因よ、<来|き>よ』
     少女は自らに向けて詠唱する。
     現状、銃器による制圧は不可能だと判断した。
     であれば、<刃|は>を散らす白兵戦の時間になる……!
     牙を<剥|む>く聖女の鉄槌。
     少女に与えられたものは銃と甲冑だけではない。
     <焼死|ブレイズ>。<病死|シック>。<出血死|ブレイド>。<衝突死|ブレイク>。<精|ロ><神| ス><死|ト>。<拷|ペ><問|イ><死|ン>。<断罪死|パニッシュ>。
     曰く、法が人に割り振った七つの死因。
     それを武器として結晶化したものが、彼女の持つ聖典である。
    Ciel: "In the name of our Lord, come forth, O third cause of death."
    The girl chants unto herself.
    She has judged that, currently, subjugation through firearms is impossible.
    If such, then it has become time for blades to spark in close quarters!
    The saint's iron hammer bares its fangs.
    Given to the girl is not armor and gun alone.
    Blaze
    Death by Immolation
    .
    Sick
    Death by Illness
    .
    Blade
    Death by Bloodloss
    .
    Break
    Death by Collision
    .
    Lost
    Death of Mind
    .
    Pain
    Death by Torture
    .
    Punish
    Death by Conviction
    .

    As told, the seven causes of death allotted to man by law.
    The Holy Scripture which she wields is that which has had those crystallized into weapon.

     少女が手にした物はあまりにも無骨な裁断機。
     ギロチンの刃を重ねた<百足|むかで>の如き<蛇腹|じゃばら><剣|けん>。
    『<出血死|ブレイド>』の名を<戴|いただ>いた、圧し潰す為の巨大質量―――!

    The thing that she took in her hands was an all too boorish cutter.
    A pleated sword, with guillotine blades stacked on one another, as if a centipede.
    An enormous mass meant for crushing, bestowed the name of "
    Blade
    Death by Bloodloss
    ".


     ヴローヴとの戦い―――この人が本気で何かを殺す時にしか使わなかった、1メートル以上の刃を持つ巨大な 銃。
    「―――――――」
     ……知っている。
     俺が知らずともこの頭が、あの凶器がどんなモノであるかを知っている。
     聖堂教会が人為的に作りあげた奇跡の具現。
     今を<遡|さかのぼ>ること千年前、いまだ地上に残っていた稀少な幻想種をおびき寄せ、呼び水となった少 女ごと<竈|かまど>にくべ神鉄を錬成し、教典として組み上げた概念武装。
     そこには人間が背負うであろう死の要因があまねく記され、神鉄はその固有震動でこれを戒める洗礼を詠唱し 続ける。
     <詠|うた>う教典は数あれど、これほど対“延命”に特化した教典はないだろう。
     その<名称|な>を第七聖典。
     聖堂教会が主の威光を示す為に作りあげ、
     長く使い手不在だった門外不出の聖遺物―――
    A massive gun with a blade over 1 meter long, used only at a time when this person is earnestly trying to kill something―as during the battle with Vlov.
    ―――――――
    ...I know of it.
    Even though I don’t know, this mind knows just what kind of deadly weapon that is.
    The embodiment of a miracle, artificially fabricated by the Holy Church.
    Dating back a thousand years from now, they lured in one of the scarce few Phantasmal Species still roaming the earth, burning both it and the girl used as bait at the hearth, refining the divine steel, and in the form of a scripture, they put together a Conceptual Weapon.
    Within it, they all-encompassingly wrote down the seven causes of death that man ought to bear, and so through its natural frequency the divine steel keeps chanting a baptism cautioning against them.
    It takes the name of the Seventh Holy Scripture.
    Created by the Holy Church for the sake of demonstrating the Lord's power, a long master-less relic, never meant to see the light of day.

     第七聖典は多くの死因をカタチにしたものだが、その本質は『魂砕き』にある。
     聖堂教会の教義には輪廻転生の概念がない。
     人は死後、生前の行いによって地獄に落ちるか天上に召されるかのみ。再び地上に生まれるなどあってはなら ない。
     アレはその教義を基に鋳造された転生批判の聖典だ。
     杭打ち機による<断罪死|パニッシュメント>。
     アレに撃たれれば、魂そのものが霧散する。
    Though it being the numerous causes of death taken shape, the Seventh Holy Scripture's essence lies in "soul-smashing".
    Within the Holy Church's doctrine, there is no concept of cyclical reincarnation.
    At death, there is only whether one falls to hell or is invited to heaven, depending on one's deeds in life. Under no circumstance is one reborn unto the earth once more.
    That thing, with such a doctrine cast as its foundation, is a reincarnation denying Holy Scripture.
    Punishment
    Death by Conviction
    via pile bunker.

    In being hit by that, the soul itself disperses.

    「万が一に備えて、移動させておいて正解でしたね。
     ―――仕掛けますよセブン。断罪死への換装を済ませなさい」
     シエルの呼び声に応じて、ソレは変形を開始した。
     二つの銃器。一つの銃剣。一つの大剣。一つの甲冑。
     そして一つの破城弩弓。
     六つの武装で構成された鉄の塊。
     これこそ『<一角馬の角|コーノカント>』の秘蹟を基本骨子に作られた対吸血鬼武装車両、第七聖典の姿で ある。
    「<第|ブ><一|レ><死|イ><因|ズ>、<第|ブ><三|レ><死|イ><因|ド>、<第|ブ><四 |レ><死|イ><因|ク>を補助武装として合成。
     使用弾頭はコーノカント反応光から劣化ウラン弾に変更。テキストスロットは転生批判文から新約天使記に書 き換え。
     ああ、照準は手動形式に。自動では彼女に気付かれる」

    Ciel: "Moving it to have it ready just in case was the correct call after all. ―――Seven, we’re commencing. Finish up the refit into Punishment."
    In response to Ciel's call, it initiated transformation.
    Two firearms. One bayonet. One great-sword. One armor. And finally, one siege ballista.
    A cluster of steel composed from these six armaments.
    This then being the figure of the anti-vampire armored vehicle, the Seventh Holy Scripture, created with the
    Cornocanto
    Horn of the Unicorn
    Sacrament as its foundational structure.

    Ciel: "Composite
    Blaze
    first cause of death
    ,
    Blade
    third cause of death
    and
    Break
    fourth cause of death
    as supplemental armaments.

    Change the applied warhead from Cornocanto reactive light to depleted uranium shells. Rewrite the text-slot from reincarnation denial texts into New Testament Angelology.
    And, switch sights into manual mode. I'll be noticed by her if it's in automatic."

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    Nanako is truly the mvp.

    hope we'll get to see her in new visual.

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