World History Discussion

[Nanashi(kari)]

When I learned that Augustus was a title shared by all emperors I thought Romulus Augustus was called so just because of that which ruined for me the poetry of the last roman emperor in the west (Julius Nepos? Who is that?) having both the name of the founder of the city and the founder of the empire because so if it was common to all emperors then it wasn't so special.
But years later I learned he for some reason actually had took Augustus as a proper name (which meant that Augustus occured twice in his full regnal name) and so him being the last emperor in the west seemed even more poetic than I thought initially.

[Kabalisto Koga]

When I learned that Augustus was a title shared by all emperors I thought Romulus Augustus was called so just because of that which ruined for me the poetry of the last roman emperor in the west (Julius Nepos? Who is that?) having both the name of the founder of the city and the founder of the empire because so if it was common to all emperors then it wasn't so special.
But years later I learned he for some reason actually had took Augustus as a proper name (which meant that Augustus occured twice in his full regnal name) and so him being the last emperor in the west seemed even more poetic than I thought initially.

actually were officially the last Romulus Augustulus the last but was just like the last western Rome Emporers marionnettes and he himself were a child king , similar its with Byzantine Empire and Constantinople were its started with a Constantine and did end with one .

Constantine Dragases were not the one which win against the Sultan but he was a Baddass .

[LegalLoliLover]

Today, I found this masterpiece:

[BnEl15]

Are we still talking about Romans? Cuz' if so, I'm just gonna drop this random thing here...
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[Kabalisto Koga]

Honestly.... quite good song and well made animation but although i understand that it was about a girl that looke just always at her phone i dont quite get the context .

[RoydGolden]

I was sent back into ancient Rome and reincarnated as a turtle for looking at my cellphone too much? That needs to be an Isekai novel. Also some of those designs for Roman figures were pretty cool and I could see using them as FCs for their Fate counterparts. (Though this time Pompeius gets the gonky fat-guy design while Caesar is a bishie).

[LegalLoliLover]

Watching Heike Monogatari, I'm beginning to understand why many who opposed Nobunaga did so legitimately thinking that they could win. They were viewing the Genpei War in the same way as we view the Sengoku Era because they were living the Sengoku Era. During the Genpei War, there were heroes, like Tajima the Arrow Slasher, who could deflect fast-moving projectiles with only a sword and no armor. When those who opposed Nobu saw guns, they thought that they could be the next Tajima... Until they realized the hard way that bullets fly faster and harder than arrows. Similarly, Nobunaga himself was probably viewed as the second coming of Kiyomori, what with his disregard for Buddhist warrior monks and his bizarre behavior, in general (and possibly some Taira blood in his veins), but Nobu had what Kiyomori didn't: Guns and (a different) God. Guns are self-explanatory, but while Nobu did not convert to Christianity and become a "Christian fan", he was definitely a "Christianity enjoyer" and often viewed the Bible from a scholarly or entertainment point of view, as seen with his interactions with the missionary Organtino.

That's why in many portrayals, his WMD is often a Biblical McGuffin, such as the Holy Grail or Biblically accurate angels, but to the other daimyo at the time, even such a level of interest, combined with his aforementioned disregard for soldiers wearing monk's clothing, this was tantamount to "consorting with foreign devils". Of course, he owned that accusation and called himself the Demon King and was undefeated by those aforementioned Genpei War fans. Of course, Nobu ended up getting Caesar'd, but such an end is very different from being defeated by a "champion of Japanese tradition", like the Genji defeating the Heike... Huh, how odd. My autocorrect lists "Genji" as a misspelled word, but not Heike.

[Dullahan]

how do you do, fellow Christianity enjoyers

[LegalLoliLover]

Holy Grail bombs and nightmare fuel angel fetuses. It's more likely than you think.

[Ideofago]

I use way too many christian idioms even though I have no faith, do I get in the club?

[LegalLoliLover]

Do you have Nobu or Organtino (Servant form, when?) on speed-dial to ask them?

[Ideofago]

Sure, let me just pull up my dead people phone

[Five_X]

I enjoy a bit of Christianity myself some evenings, with ice and a bit of lemon zest for taste.

[LegalLoliLover]

I enjoy a bit of Christianity myself some evenings, with ice and a bit of lemon zest for taste.

Are you sure that's not Christians?

[aldeayeah]

Going off on a tangent, but here are a couple notes from the book I'll never write.

If this goes too close to GenNews content, feel free to delete it.

- If I were asked to distill a single lesson from world history, it would be this one: giving unchecked power to anyone is a bad idea.

- The precarious balancing act between "keeping the power-hungry sociopaths in check" and "getting stuff done" has been a core issue in politics in all eras.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

I'd say that's fairly accurate in societies with states and state power.

[TreeLord]

I don't know about that first point I mean yes there was leaders who abused their power but there where also leaders like Octavian or Charlemagne who had more or less unchecked power and still ended up being pretty good.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Octavian and Charlemagne were still violent conquerors who maintained their power and authority through violence. Charlemagne especially, unless you've forgotten about the Saxons, among other people.

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I'll admit Octavian brought stability after decades of civil war, but he was still a conqueror and a tyrant by definition.

[Petrikow]

Power is indeed very important for leaders.

[Kamera]

Hmmm yes... the ruler has power... over state.