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    World History Discussion

    In which we discuss the memory, discovery, collection, organization, presentation, and interpretation of events that transpired prior to the present.

    There was a previous thread that kinda tackled history but it was bundled together with mythology and old literature so I figured there might be a demand in the market for a pure history thread. From the rise and fall of ancient empires to why 'Nam was a bad idea. Go nuts you armchair historians and talk about your love of dead people...wait a sec, that came out wrong.

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    I wanna make a phallic joke but I'm struggling to connect it to the matter at hand.
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    Thats unexpected but thank you !


    okay so now what i wanted to discuss which of the Roman Emporers is or are your favorites ? i mean either in personlity , deeds etc .

    and i little Question to let the thought play if you could in which time of the Roman Empire would you like to travel and which places or people would you like to see respectively meet and talk ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    I wanna make a phallic joke but I'm struggling to connect it to the matter at hand.
    You could say making that connection is... hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    I wanna make a phallic joke but I'm struggling to connect it to the matter at hand.
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    You could say making that connection is... hard.
    Har har gottem.
    Plz sirs, we are the most serious of historians. We do not resort to such infantile humour whilst we examine the boners...er, I mean bones of the long deceased.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kabalisto Koga View Post
    okay so now what i wanted to discuss which of the Roman Emporers is or are your favorites ? i mean either in personlity , deeds etc .

    and i little Question to let the thought play if you could in which time of the Roman Empire would you like to travel and which places or people would you like to see respectively meet and talk ?
    Okay, finally a proper question about history. For the first question, my favourite would have to be Flavius Claudius Constantinus, or to use his other name - Constantine III. As cool as the Principate is, I find the Dominate to be full of equally colourful characters and few more interesting than him.

    As for the second question, I am going to cheat and go back further than the Empire and instead say I'd like to see the days of the Roman Republic during the Second Punic War and afterwards. The idea of seeing both Hannibal and Scipio, two of the best military strategists together in a room discussing who they think the best general of all time was would be mind blowing.
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    The French revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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    I feel like it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, tbh.

    Monarchy was shitty, but the whole Reign of Terror thing afterwards ain't so cool either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Plz sirs, we are the most serious of historians. We do not resort to such infantile humour whilst we examine the boners...er, I mean bones of the long deceased.



    Okay, finally a proper question about history. For the first question, my favourite would have to be Flavius Claudius Constantinus, or to use his other name - Constantine III. As cool as the Principate is, I find the Dominate to be full of equally colourful characters and few more interesting than him.

    As for the second question, I am going to cheat and go back further than the Empire and instead say I'd like to see the days of the Roman Republic during the Second Punic War and afterwards. The idea of seeing both Hannibal and Scipio, two of the best military strategists together in a room discussing who they think the best general of all time was would be mind blowing.
    Intersting i would have several persons and Places respectiv times which i want to see or meet or times to spectate.


    • The time shortly of the Fight of Augustus vs Mark Anthon to spectate the last years of the Republic a time where several highly intersting people were active like Cicero the King of Orators or Rhetoric , to see if Cleopatra was the oriental beauty shee was fabled to be to talk with Augustus about the ancient rites of the Romans .Also would i like to talk with Vergil ,Agrippa etc as at that time werer really bunches of inttersting people with servant potencial.
    • Trajan :THe Apex Caesar which brought Rome to its territorial greatet extent with Dacia and parts of Armeia aswell Mesopothamia dep into the Territory of Persia id like to talk with him about the place and people he encounterd also about the Animals like at that point in Anatolia(modern turkey territory) still Lions and Tigers lived * also would i like to request him that he would collect priests of several Regions of the Empire so that i would like to writhe their customs , religious rites ,legends and mythologies down ,or atleast that he would give me a safe conduct document so that i can freely travel withhin .
    • The time when Diocletian is etablishin g the polyarchy to stabilize the Empire aswell to talk with him after he retied as he is the Sole known Emporer that to live time retired from his postion. then liked to care and tend his garden where i like to exchange some plant knowledge and wanted to ask him about his experiennces as Ruler and his thought in the afterwards like what he hinks of the reactions of his decisions .
    • The Time where Julian were on the hight of his power before his campaign against Persia , he simply fascinate me as he is the prominentest example of convert to paganism aswell did he let himself initiate in artleast four mysticism cults would i like to hear his reasons ,his reasoning aswell his worldviews as he was after or rather is of similar Philosopher king streak like Mark Aurel , also would i like to in lostbelt similar fashion help him to succed just to see how and in which way the world history would be different.


    Also

    I would like to visit the World wonder of the ancient world like the Collos of Rhodes or the Phars of Alexandria . the old Temples as still some live where in time bfore they became Ruins , the nature of the mediteran region before the Human over hunted several Animals .

    * indeed were until 1896 where the last Lion of turkey respectively 100 years after that the last official tiger killed of Turkey .


    Aside that would i like to show this video about the historic map of europe \/



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    Quote Originally Posted by BnEl15 View Post
    I feel like it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, tbh.

    Monarchy was shitty, but the whole Reign of Terror thing afterwards ain't so cool either.
    Well that was partially the result that the french monarchs did not had the leadership skill nd grasp of the world of the subjects .

    similar werer the Romanovs delusioned about the lives of their sujects as they simply not cheked their miserable situation which were the reason in that the started to revolt with underground help of preußen .
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    Rome is kinda soy and reddit.
    The period during the rule of Henry VIII, Francis I, Charles V and Suleiman the Magnificent is probably the coolest time to live in Europe tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanashi(kari) View Post
    The French revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
    Depends on whether you consider the Palingenesis and the consequence ripple that led to WW1 a consequence of the Revolution or a reaction to it. You can tie pretty much any two events in history this way if you go deep enough.

    The 19th and 20th century would certainly have been a lot different without the American Revolution, though. Among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    Rome is kinda soy and reddit.
    The period during the rule of Henry VIII, Francis I, Charles V and Suleiman the Magnificent is probably the coolest time to live in Europe tbh.
    No Byzantine Empire, no sale. I'd definitely like to see the Renaissance up close.
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    I like Rome a lot. Enough to make and eat their food.

    I'm not going to post much if at all in this thread though, because I'm an actual historian and would make it 100% unfun for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    I'm not going to post much if at all in this thread though, because I'm an actual historian and would make it 100% unfun for everyone.
    Aww c'mon. Don't be a Ben Stein, I'm sure you can find a way to talk about history that doesn't put people to sleep.
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    It's more that these kinds of threads always engender history arguments and bickering but in a pub bantering kind of way. One person adding cited sources and historiography into the mix ruins the atmosphere and the back-and-forth of it.
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    Is this the thread where we discuss hypothetical fighting matchups between historical figures of different eras?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    Is this the thread where we discuss hypothetical fighting matchups between historical figures of different eras?
    What like whether Alexander the Great could beat Napoleon in a boxing match?

    Regardless, give it a try and see if anyone is interested in discussing. We aren't exactly drowning in thread posting traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    Is this the thread where we discuss hypothetical fighting matchups between historical figures of different eras?
    Some kind of, general dialogue...
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    Five_X, are rome and WWI-II as much of a soy redditor subject in actual history academic society as reddit? Also, why did the fixation even begin? Lastly, what about the greeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    Rome is kinda soy and reddit.
    The period during the rule of Henry VIII, Francis I, Charles V and Suleiman the Magnificent is probably the coolest time to live in Europe tbh.
    Well okay everyone has their own tastes i would like to see the time of ancient civilisation where the world were majorily intact and where the Humen lived in accordance with the world.

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    I like Rome a lot. Enough to make and eat their food.

    I'm not going to post much if at all in this thread though, because I'm an actual historian and would make it 100% unfun for everyone.
    Thats cool honestly . then i am curious which Roman Rulers are after your oppinion the best ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    soy redditor subject
    What does this even mean, can you translate these terms into English?
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    Basically- every fucking kid that watches too much oversimplified and thinks they're hot shit and then goes posting on reddit about how much hot shit they think they are as a result of their dwindling attention span and lack of interpretative skills seems to go on and on about rome and world war 1 and 2. Does this happen in academia as well?
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