Fate/Stay Night [Realta Nua] - Ultimate Edition - 2022

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 2nd, 2022, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by NCN

Actually, does it matter that I've put everything on a different hard drive than the one my OS is running from?

No.

Originally Posted by NCN

I assumed it was looking for already-installed versions of the routes and that the patches worked similarly to the old translation for the separate .exes. I may have been mistaken.
As for having the three routes already installed, OP at the top of the thread never clarified that they shouldn't be. Should I be pointing the installer to the .7z archives with the routes instead? That seems odd to me, since the installer asks to point to folders containing the route .exes.

It's fine if you have already installed versions of the separate routes and point the Ultimate Edition installer towards those to fetch the files it needs. As long as you end up with the correct files specified in the first post, the game should run. Where is your save data folder "faterealtanua_savedata" located (subfolder of the game folder, subfolder of user documents, subfolder of AppData)? If you're no sure which directory Ultimate Edition is using, you can check the file "config.ksc" in the game folder; it's basically a text file.

**NCN** · January 2nd, 2022, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

It's fine if you have already installed versions of the separate routes and point the Ultimate Edition installer towards those to fetch the files it needs. As long as you end up with the correct files specified in the first post, the game should run. Where is your save data folder "faterealtanua_savedata" located (subfolder of the game folder, subfolder of user documents, subfolder of AppData)? If you're no sure which directory Ultimate Edition is using, you can check the file "config.ksc" in the game folder; it's basically a text file.

Just uninstalled and deleted everything once again and did yet another clean install just to be safe, putting all the patches in the UE folder (the one with fate.exe) this time instead of making a save folder and putting them there. No change, still won't start.
I set it to put the saves in a folder on D: next to the UE install (and next to the three routes). Namely, I put UE in "D:\Games\Fate stay night\Fate stay night Realta Nua Ultimate Edition" and told it to save to "D:\Games\Fate stay night\faterealtanua_savedata" (the three routes are in three other subfolders in "D:\Games\Fate stay night"). I told it to do that, anyway; it didn't actually create that savedata folder, possibly because the game has never actually run correctly. The entire contents of config.ksc is below:

(const) %[
"saveDataLocation" => "file://./d/games/fate stay night/faterealtanua_savedata"
]

I also just checked all the files and they appear to be correct. And yet it doesn't work.

**Griskt0** · January 2nd, 2022, 08:19 PM

Can someone help me? When i try install the Ultimate edition, that's happen.

**typell** · January 2nd, 2022, 11:37 PM

I accidentally deleted the game. I reinstalled, tried to run the game, and it prompted me to choose a save folder location, but regardless of what I did from there it gave me this error: https://imgur.com/Iyg3JcO

I think it's because I still have the faterealtanua_savedata folder from the last install, but I am not sure how to fix it. Can anyone help?

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 04:34 AM

@NCN
Other stuff to try:
Please check in the game folder if it created a subfolder called "savedata". If it crashes very early on while loading, it might write some error log into a file in that folder. Also, have a look at what happens during launch with task manager or process explorer. Does Fate.exe open and close right again, does it open and stay open without anything happening, etc. Are there any unusual entries in the Computer Management console's Event Viewer related to Fate.exe? Also, maybe try a restart of the computer.
Btw, which operating system are you using?

@Griskt0
In the "Choose Components" of the installer, do not check any of the additional components for install. The installer has some issues with automatic downloads. Have it do only do the merger of the routes and provide the patch files manually by downloading them as described in the top post.

@typell
Did you make sure to update your patch files, especially "patch.xp3" as explained in the top post's "How to UPDATE from an older version of Ultimate Edition"?

**typell** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:00 AM

yep, I followed the top post. downloaded the game and then the patches separately, and moved the patches into the game folder

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by typell

yep, I followed the top post. downloaded the game and then the patches separately, and moved the patches into the game folder

Where's your savedata folder located? If you think it's not working because of the old one, you could try renaming it so the game can't find it and creates a new one.

**typell** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:57 AM

Just tried that, same message. I think the fact that it can't find it is the problem.

it was in documents for what that's worth

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

@NCN
Other stuff to try:
Please check in the game folder if it created a subfolder called "savedata". If it crashes very early on while loading, it might write some error log into a file in that folder. Also, have a look at what happens during launch with task manager or process explorer. Does Fate.exe open and close right again, does it open and stay open without anything happening, etc. Are there any unusual entries in the Computer Management console's Event Viewer related to Fate.exe? Also, maybe try a restart of the computer.
Btw, which operating system are you using?

OS is Windows 10 Pro. Looking at task manager, it appears that Fate.exe doesn't even open at all, or if it does it's so brief that it never shows up in the list. The only thing I was able to notice is a brief spike in activity from Antimalware Service Executable, but neither adding an exception for Fate.exe nor disabling real-time protection result in any change.
A program error does show up in the event viewer. I'll paste that in a collapse below:

Event Viewer error

Below, behind another collapse tag, is the entire text of krkr.console inside the savedata folder:

krkr.console

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 01:50 PM

@typell
It seems like the game is trying to write savedata to the folder where it's installed, which is the "program files (x86)" folder on drive C. It fails, since only elevated programs would have write access to that folder. Probably you clicked "Cancel" when the installer asked you where you wanted to store savedata, in which case it defaults to the game's program folder.
You have several options how to get this working:
- You could reinstall and this time tell it to store savedata somewhere else.
- You could copy the whole game folder somewhere else where you do have write access, delete config.ksc, then when it asks again where to store save files, cancel again so it uses its own directory.
- You could always run the game elevated, so its able to write to its own folder.
- You could change the savedata folder location to somewhere where a normal user has write access. To do this, you can either (as an Administrator) edit the file "config.ksc" in the game's folder to point to a new, writable, location, or, again as an Administrator, delete config.ksc and launch the game. It will then again ask you where you want to store savedata. Point it to a writable location.

@NCN
In the exception, it mentions "file://./c/users/nova/documents/faterealtanua_savedata/" as the save folder. Is that a folder you previously used?

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

@NCN
In the exception, it mentions "file://./c/users/nova/documents/faterealtanua_savedata/" as the save folder. Is that a folder you previously used?

The first time I installed it, yes. That was the default and I forgot to change it. Every subsequent removal and reinstall, including this one, I've moved it to D:/Games/Fate stay night/faterealtanua_savedata, which is where I want it, ideally.

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by NCN

The first time I installed it, yes. That was the default and I forgot to change it. Every subsequent removal and reinstall, including this one, I've moved it to D:/Games/Fate stay night/faterealtanua_savedata, which is where I want it, ideally.

Please try deleting the present krkr.console file and try launching the game just once. Check if a new console log is created and if so, post the content once more.

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

Please try deleting the present krkr.console file and try launching the game just once. Check if a new console log is created and if so, post the content once more.

Done. Collapse tag here.

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 04:13 PM

@NCN
Interesting. It still tries to read from "file://./c/users/nova/documents/faterealtanua_savedata/". Try to create the folder "D:\games\fate stay night\faterealtanua_savedata" manually (you said it didn't exist yet) and see if you can launch the game then.

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

@NCN
Interesting. It still tries to read from "file://./c/users/nova/documents/faterealtanua_savedata/". Try to create the folder "D:\games\fate stay night\faterealtanua_savedata" manually (you said it didn't exist yet) and see if you can launch the game then.

I just tried creating a folder in both locations to be safe. Still doesn't launch.

**Bohemian Waxwing** · January 3rd, 2022, 05:14 PM

@NCN
Any change in the console log observable now that those folders exist?

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bohemian Waxwing

@NCN
Any change in the console log observable now that those folders exist?

I have no idea what any of it means so I don't know. (Clicky)

**NM64** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:11 PM

I don't suppose that one could "cheat" and use symbolic links? That is, if it keeps wanting to look at "documents" then maybe put a symbolic link in documents that then points to the savedata folder in the ultimate edition program folder?

...btw NCN, you aren't the same guy on another VN-related forum that used the username "Nightroller" are you? I may have suggested a similar use of symbolic links as a cheaty way to physically put data on a secondary partition while still having the OS think that it's located on your C: drive.

The easiest way I know of to create symbolic links on Windows is via Link Shell Extension:

https://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlink...kshellext.html

Just be careful if you use symbolic links for any operating system stuff as there are some low-levels things (like Windows Update) that can get confused and bork out if the necessary OS files aren't physically on the C: drive.

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Off-topic: TIL there's a "collapse" tag.

...and I can't help but notice that there's absolutely no indication that a collapse tag is even present on a given piece of text unless, as NCN did, some sort of indication is given.

So I guess I'll just stick with using spoiler tags that are labeled as something else (as I did when I provided the text for the opening post).

**NCN** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by NM64

I don't suppose that one could "cheat" and use symbolic links? That is, if it keeps wanting to look at "documents" then maybe put a symbolic link in documents that then points to the savedata folder in the ultimate edition program folder?

...btw NCN, you aren't the same guy on another VN-related forum that used the username "Nightroller" are you? I may have suggested a similar use of symbolic links as a cheaty way to physically put data on a secondary partition while still having the OS think that it's located on your C: drive.

The easiest way I know of to create symbolic links on Windows is via Link Shell Extension:

https://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlink...kshellext.html

Just be careful if you use symbolic links for any operating system stuff as there are some low-levels things (like Windows Update) that can get confused and bork out if the necessary OS files aren't physically on the C: drive.

--------------------------------

Off-topic: TIL there's a "collapse" tag.

...and I can't help but notice that there's absolutely no indication that a collapse tag is even present on a given piece of text unless, as NCN did, some sort of indication is given.

So I guess I'll just stick with using spoiler tags that are labeled as something else (as I did when I provided the text for the opening post).

I am not. And this is turning more complex than I'm equipped to deal with right now. Do we even have any idea what might be going wrong here or is this just throwing things at the wall? Not to be rude, but I'd rather not start installing ancillary programs that may or may not even work.

**NM64** · January 3rd, 2022, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by NCN

Not to be rude, but I'd rather not start installing ancillary programs that may or may not even work.

Oh, I didn't know that you weren't even aware of what symbolic links are as it's something that's integrated into the OS itself but requires using the command line:

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/1622...dows-or-linux/

And, despite me knowing how to use the command line, I'm terrible at actually remembering commands so I much prefer to rely on GUI-based things, hence why I mentioned Link Shell Extension.

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