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    I think if he were Caster I could easily see him being a Grand, but what about him would make him Grand Rider specifically?

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    obviously he rides daji
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    I find it a little too convenient that Jiang Ziya is here, in the chapter where he'll presumably be a key factor/silver bullet in Vitch's defeat.

    If he is the Grand, then that'd be the first time there'd've been a Grand this perfectly made to counter their respective Beast—and, as I said, that fits in a little too narratively nicely for me to not have my suspicions.
    The only time Koyanskaya ever expressed disappointment in her dearest Muryan was when Muryan proved unable to escape her past grudges, so my pet theory is that Koyanskaya did exactly that and she and Taigong are now buddies.

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    To be fair, wasn't Orion summoned into Atlantis specifically because of Koyan too? He was meant to fight and kill her, IIRC, except he died killing Artemis instead.

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    Nothing is explicitly said, but Oberon is The Greatest Huntsman who gets ALL the bonuses when fighting beasts (the animal kind), so you put two and two twogether

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Nothing is explicitly said, but Oberon is The Greatest Huntsman who gets ALL the bonuses when fighting beasts (the animal kind), so you put two and two twogether
    Wrong O, but yes, that was was the implicit intent, though granted it's not AS perfect of a counter as this would be but it's still very much like the CF knew exactly what kind of being she was and summoned its conceptual opposite.
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    KH being a big death guy fighting a life goddess too.

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    Just wait for when it turns out we need U-Olga's help to fight ORT. That's going to be the main act, because muh patterns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Nothing is explicitly said, but Oberon is The Greatest Huntsman who gets ALL the bonuses when fighting beasts (the animal kind), so you put two and two twogether
    Don't you mean Orion(True)?

    Also, if Taigong Wang's sus is true, then this could be the first time a Grand went rogue and help a Beast. Not to mention there are Koyan's products behind him in the CM. IF he's a Grand.

    There're instances where Chaldea fights a Beast Grandless, like Kiara and Kama. Well, Kama's a special case by utilizing loopholes, but I don't remember how Kiara avoid Counter Force's detection.

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    And if Chaldea is truly on their own here, at least they have help from a potential Beast candidate Ibuki.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    I don't remember how Kiara avoid Counter Force's detection.
    She never makes it to full beast mode before she dies, so the CF never sends anyone.

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    Jason and Perseus are eagerly waiting for Jiang Ziya to join the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I think if he were Caster I could easily see him being a Grand, but what about him would make him Grand Rider specifically?

    Jiang Ziya on left, Da Ji on right.

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    She never makes it to full beast mode before she dies, so the CF never sends anyone.
    That's so dumb.
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    You missed the point of the question, Amado. Note the italic on "Rider".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I think if he were Caster I could easily see him being a Grand, but what about him would make him Grand Rider specifically?
    Grand Rider Jiang Ziya vs Beast Nine Tails footage found

    (If only the rest of the movie would have kept this breathtaking 2D animation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    You missed the point of the question, Amado. Note the italic on "Rider".
    he is Rider because he rides Si Bu Xiang isn't it?

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    Grand Rider Jiang Ziya vs Beast Nine Tails footage found

    (If only the rest of the movie would have kept this breathtaking 2D animation)
    Now I understand why they pair Da Ji with Mother Harlot. They really have a lot in common thematically.

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    Whoa, wasn't aware there's such movie. I assume that's the movie's take of Investure Of The Gods. It really is a shame for it not being 2D all the way, but understandable considering how much the quality in that 2D animation.

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    At 1:36, that really brings to mind Koyanskaya's Treasuring Beast form.


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    O.K. I've watched this clip so many now and I some ideas on what may happen plus an idea that I think give a different look at Koyanskaya reason.

    I think in the first half Chaldea will enter this lost belt/singularity with the plan to end Koyanskayaand the Riders will be summoned by the CF like in other Chapters. Fujimaru will then fight the raid battles and win. Jiang Ziya will use their NP as the final strike and seem to finish Vitch off.

    However then the second half begins and because of something that happened before Jiang Ziya will turn on Fujimaru and take over the NFF.
    https://demonition.com/wp/wp-content...a42c29df36.jpg
    Possibly capture or mind control most of the Chaldeas crew. This will force Fujimaru to retreat. We will end up at the crater of Koyan and see she is still alive.

    https://demonition.com/wp/wp-content...7b158752a2.jpg

    Fujimaru will not give up despite being backed into a corner and this will wake up Koyan.

    https://demonition.com/wp/wp-content...9da5526430.jpg

    I think this is where we will learn what Koyan really wanted. I think like, OG Tamamo, Koyan was made to understand humans and experience what we feel when all seems lost, like hope. She tried business but she never really felt backed into a corner because she always had a back up plan. So when the alien god came she thought trying to grow stronger then it would give her that feeling. By watch people suffer she was in a sense living vicariously through them as well as trying to discover what she was missing. Now that she has been beaten, broken and lost everything Fujimaru determination will be the spark that will light that feeling.

    Koyan will then join Fujimaru in what seems an impossible battle against Jiang Ziya and help save everyone else. No longer needing to be a beast she will eventually become Koyanskaya of Light. Using her authority she will increase the power of a weapon ether she had hidden or Chaldea had but had not been able to use and sacrifice her life, with a smile since she finally acquired what she real wanted, to beat Jiang Ziya.

    So what do you think? I've been racking my brain and this seem plausible to me.
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    By all means, Grand Rider should be the epitome of Man and Vehicle as one

    In other words, Lu Bu

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