Fgo got a pity system

[OnesFleetingGlory]

FGO needed a pity system, but the way it has been implemented is bad, just like many new things that FGO ends up getting like the coin system. Here's all the details:

- 330 Rolls to guarantee the rate-up SSR
- These 330 Rolls must be spent on the same banner, and work identically to the ‘ten single rolls makes the last single role a double’ system. 300 on one banner and 30 on the next won’t work
- Once you get the rate-up SSR, the pity is disabled for that banner
- If there are multiple rate-up SSRs, then you get one of them randomly

As to what I think about this:

- First point, the amount of quartz required to get that SSR is frankly ridiculous for a F2P tbh. In my own experience, you pretty much need like half a year or even more to reach that amount if you never roll, never skip events, always complete all missions and you raise Servant Bond levels to 11-15 constantly to get quartz. This pity benefits more to those that are willing to spend a lot of money for a Servant that they really like. Though tbh I've been spoiled by PGR pity system for first release Constructs that I may be bias here, would appreciate others opinions.
- The second one it sucks, but unfortunately that's a common practice in some gatcha games and FGO had to copy it...
- The third one is the dumbest one, why the hell are they disabling the pity once you get the rate-up Servant? It makes no sense at all, and I don't think any gatcha game does this crap, at least for the most known ones. Clearly a decision based on greed, like wtf. And god knows what happens when there's multiple rate-ups, once you get one of them you can't get pity for the other? Wouldn't be surprised if it was like this.
- Fourth one is just a minor issue that probably is like this because they're unable to create a selector for which Servant you want to get a rate-up in the gatcha (which is why we have those constant rotations for solo rate-ups), so they had to implement the pity in some ackward way for the rotations that have multiple rate-ups.

So story summon doesn't count? That sucks.

[Raineh Daze]

FGO needed a pity system, but the way it has been implemented is bad, just like many new things that FGO ends up getting like the coin system. Here's all the details:

- 330 Rolls to guarantee the rate-up SSR
- These 330 Rolls must be spent on the same banner, and work identically to the ‘ten single rolls makes the last single role a double’ system. 300 on one banner and 30 on the next won’t work
- Once you get the rate-up SSR, the pity is disabled for that banner
- If there are multiple rate-up SSRs, then you get one of them randomly

As to what I think about this:

- First point, the amount of quartz required to get that SSR is frankly ridiculous for a F2P tbh. In my own experience, you pretty much need like half a year or even more to reach that amount if you never roll, never skip events, always complete all missions and you raise Servant Bond levels to 11-15 constantly to get quartz. This pity benefits more to those that are willing to spend a lot of money for a Servant that they really like. Though tbh I've been spoiled by PGR pity system for first release Constructs that I may be bias here, would appreciate others opinions.
- The second one it sucks, but unfortunately that's a common practice in some gatcha games and FGO had to copy it...
- The third one is the dumbest one, why the hell are they disabling the pity once you get the rate-up Servant? It makes no sense at all, and I don't think any gatcha game does this crap, at least for the most known ones. Clearly a decision based on greed, like wtf. And god knows what happens when there's multiple rate-ups, once you get one of them you can't get pity for the other? Wouldn't be surprised if it was like this.
- Fourth one is just a minor issue that probably is like this because they're unable to create a selector for which Servant you want to get a rate-up in the gatcha (which is why we have those constant rotations for solo rate-ups), so they had to implement the pity in some ackward way for the rotations that have multiple rate-ups.

Well, the point of a pity system isn't really to benefit the F2P, it's to spread your costs down so more cautious spenders will open their wallets because they are guaranteed to get what they want.

Three is actually fairly common on things which have a soft pity system. e.g. Arknights or Genshin Impact; the sort of thing that ramps up your odds after a certain number of failed rolls then resets on success. Genshin will guarantee you a rateup on the second roll, though. However, I think GO is thus far unique in combining that sort of spiteful pity disable on something with a 300 roll (SQ-wise) req with pure hard pity. Those banners also tend to ignore point 2, and you'll roll over banner to banner in some or most cases.

GO basically took the worst of the original Granblue pity system after the original Andira fiasco, like three-four years later, and married it to the worse parts of newer pity systems. The fact this is something to praise in this game is fucking dismal.

[Pendant]

What kinda question is that??

[Petrikow]

It's shit and will most likely never matter to me so I'll just pretend they didn't add it and complain about there being no pity until the end of time.

No sarcasm.

[Raineh Daze]

What kinda question is that??

"Please validate my poor spending"? Honestly, I'm baffled. I've spent stupid amounts (well, fairly stupid) at times on this gacha. That's why I think we needed a pity system. And that this is a mess.

Gacha is predatory. The least you can do is minimise harm to the people who want one bloody copy. Fuck, make extra copies stronger. Hell knows a lot of games do that absurdly. And they put in appends and extra grails on top of the NP. That's fine. Now you can stop being pricks about denying everyone else their toys at all.

[Mattias]

It's shit and will most likely never matter to me so I'll just pretend they didn't add it and complain about there being no pity until the end of time.

No sarcasm.

USO 2.0! I'm right there with you.

[Byegod]

Who the fuck voted no?

[Deathhappens]

It's absolutely not.

The amount of rolls is.

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Who the fuck voted no?

You can just click on the number and find out.

[jennajayfeather]

Who the fuck voted no?

People who have no fear of getting unlucky

Tbh I get why people are upset. 900 IS a lot of quartz. If I hadn't been in a saving pact with my friends for CF rerun I'd probably be upset too.

[Deathhappens]

"Please validate my poor spending"? Honestly, I'm baffled. I've spent stupid amounts (well, fairly stupid) at times on this gacha. That's why I think we needed a pity system. And that this is a mess.

Gacha is predatory. The least you can do is minimise harm to the people who want one bloody copy. Fuck, make extra copies stronger. Hell knows a lot of games do that absurdly. And they put in appends and extra grails on top of the NP. That's fine. Now you can stop being pricks about denying everyone else their toys at all.

I don't think Pendant was replying to you, rather the thread itself lol.

[Aozaki-desu]

i think i got raped at least 2 times on the scale of 900 sq or higher
once by bryn
once by arthur
i dont think any of my other disaster rolling sprees achieved to be quite as bad

anyhow, while i think that finally having hard cap on a cost of ssr servant is a good thing, i also understand people who wanted something more than that

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Or rather, ACTUAL pity system, because the prior FGO pity system is not something that's worthy of being called one.

BSGs were never meant to be a pity system
they were introduced as a compensation for whales who had gone over np5 of common SSR servants at the time when rare prisms were not a thing and 6th ssr was merely 5 prisms

[Rafflesiac]

Who the fuck voted no?

Mindbroken slaves delighting in their chains, and a lad having a right giggle.

[Byegod]

Which is which, who is the mindbroken and who is the contrarian

[Altaris]

I went 3k SQ before without getting Semiramis, so yea

[Rafflesiac]

Which is which, who is the mindbroken and who is the contrarian

I know people were salty. Was this really nessessary?[IMG]****************************file/d/1lwzLFSyIQ_tZq32FKOL8TucBB5iSeusg/view?usp=drivesdk[/IMG]

You have everything you need.

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I went 3k SQ before without getting Semiramis, so yea

God, I remember that. I'm amazed you kept playing to be honest.

[Altaris]

God, I remember that. I'm amazed you kept playing to be honest.

I pretty much quitted after Atlantis. I came back because of LB 6.

[Nanashi(kari)]

Wait a minute...

Spoiler:

[Altaris]

Petrikow of the Dark and Petrikow of the Light

[Tobias]

So…what exactly is the pity system

[Altaris]

It's a customer service support where players can cry into Koyan lap pillow because 2-san was mean to them