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    Could Noel have a route? (Possible Remake Spoilers)

    I do a separate thread so the remake spoilers one can go other ways.

    The question is simple, does not matter if it never happens, but is a Nol rute narratively possible?

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    I remember when people asked the same question of Sacchin and Illya.

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    For ilya we still dont have one , uness you count prillya, and i dont

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    The real question is why the hell would you want one
    Alternatively, you could find a suitable replacement with a seagull documentary.
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    pardon my existence for likin this character . Also, the title is not even.." i want a Noel rute"· but.2 is Noel rute possible" ? Just for a little discussion

    i still like your avi
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    Is the title in French

    Well anyway, fixed, spoiler-tagged, blah blah

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    Yes, but only after her 'transformation'
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    add a poll, people love polls

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    Also, seriously speaking I don't know why you would make Noel her own route. I haven't read the remake, so my opinion is pretty ignorable, but isn't she supposed to be the thematic anthonym of Ciel's route? AKA someone that doesn't believe in redemption in a story about atonement?
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    Also, seriously speaking I don't know why you would make Noel her own route. I haven't read the remake, so my opinion is pretty ignorable, but isn't she supposed to be the thematic anthonym of Ciel's route? AKA someone that doesn't believe in redemption in a story about atonement?
    The problem with that is that there's no actual atonement in Ciel's Route. Ciel is after all, a Sakura (or really a Sakura + Shirou) and her sin can be said to be at most the fact that she ended up enjoying a bit of the Roa ride when it inevitably did happen (after plenty of resistance on her part)

    Nasu really needs to stop using the "they had no control/real choice/agency" as a way to have a "evil" or bad heroine that can be easily redeemed or walk back really. Tamamo was a step forward but that just makes every other time a step back... Or you know, if it was more explicit about it being Church Shirou with Ciel that'd work better too.

    As far as what I think for Noel and a route I'll repeat what I said in Unpopular. I think she's great. I don't think she should have a route in Tsukihime. Idon't think she needs to be tied to, or really needs to be part of Tsuki-Re either. Should've been a main character, or a main supporting character in a original church work or spin off. We could call it When the Seagulls Cry Obviously.

    As is she's too welded onto Ciel as Nasu's attempts to try and hype up Ciel and shill attributes of Ciel imo. Inelegant and both deserve better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    The problem with that is that there's no actual atonement in Ciel's Route. Ciel is after all, a Sakura (or really a Sakura + Shirou) and her sin can be said to be at most the fact that she ended up enjoying a bit of the Roa ride when it inevitably did happen (after plenty of resistance on her part)

    Nasu really needs to stop using the "they had no control/real choice/agency" as a way to have a "evil" or bad heroine that can be easily redeemed or walk back really. Tamamo was a step forward but that just makes every other time a step back... Or you know, if it was more explicit about it being Church Shirou with Ciel that'd work better too.

    As far as what I think for Noel and a route I'll repeat what I said in Unpopular. I think she's great. I don't think she should have a route in Tsukihime. Idon't think she needs to be tied to, or really needs to be part of Tsuki-Re either. Should've been a main character, or a main supporting character in a original church work or spin off. We could call it When the Seagulls Cry Obviously.

    As is she's too welded onto Ciel as Nasu's attempts to try and hype up Ciel and shill attributes of Ciel imo. Inelegant and both deserve better.

    Actually, Noel is makin me realize certain flaws in how nasu wirtes his tragic heroines, but i will always have a soft spot for Sakura , but now i will be able to say i like her despite these flaws

    Im actually not bothered about these other tragic heroines , im more bothered about how Noel really have potential onher own but as is, she is a promp to show us how cool Ciel is, or that her vamp form likely will be more marketed

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    Actually, Noel is making me realize certain flaws in how Nasu writes his tragic heroines, but i will always have a soft spot for Sakura , but now i will be able to say i like her despite these flaws

    I'm actually not bothered about these other tragic heroines , I'm more bothered about how Noel really have potential on her own but as is, she is a prop to show us how cool Ciel is, or that her vamp form likely will be more marketed

    PD : yes winning so far, lol, I'm pleasantly surprised.
    That they often fixate on a man in some manner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    That they often fixate on a man in some manner?
    At least no rape is involved this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    That they often fixate on a man in some manner?
    I'd argue that for a good deal of tragic heroines, a great amount of their pain and the reasoning behind it were wholly seperate from the MC.
    Like, you could have the MC be a catalyst, but the bomb was made a decade in the past and they were just the fuse.
    That and it unnecessarily distills those characters and the context to which they find themselves in the situations they are in.

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    Correct except for the fact there's no H in antonym.

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    Its her roe in Ciel rute, doesnt have to be her only story

    If it means something nasu almost make her the character of melty "rush boss" story

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    Wasn't that Miyako?

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    Correct except for the fact there's no H in antonym.
    Huh. These types of words usually have the dental fricative. I've defaulted to putting it in because otherwise they're false cognates to portuguese.
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    They changed it to miyako. It was a scrapped idea, its in the bamboo diary

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    Oh, true, I didn't recall that part of the post.
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