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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Was Type Jupiter humanoid? I thought it was more like an arthropod
    the translation says it looks very close to a human


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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    He's described as a black Giant and Giants are humanoid by definition.
    And Inflate Arc was described as a white giant iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    Now we have the white woman and the black man(?)

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    Is Ether poisoning a thing when in concentrated quantities? Or is just True Ether that's harmful?
    Humans in the AoG could live in True Ether no problem. It's more about modern humans already adapted to living in Ether and can't handle the good stuffs of the past.

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    all i have are jokes in my head. if the "breath of the planet" is True ether does that make the jewel on Balmung a "
    oxygen
    breath of the planet
    tank
    reservoir
    "

    and if the "breath of the planet" is Gin/Grain does that mean that everyone in Notes runs on the "breath of the planet" therefore the powerlevels

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    I sometimes wonder If shiki can kill that flaw of arc that is wanting to suck blood..

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    Find out in Tsukihime 3. Please understand.
    Though I would think no because that's simply a part of her being. And that would be kind of extremely lame writing.

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    /glances at the power of puns in TM

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    I was looking this book and in the end it seems are all Drama CD All around Type-moon dialogues.

    can someone translate it? here is de NSFW link

    https://e-hentai.org/g/2356032/e90a305dc2/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Luminary
    Class Berserker True Name Archetype:Earth Gender Female Body
    Origin Tsukihime Region Earth Alignment Lawful Chaotic
    Height/Weight About 200 meters when emerging (depending on the CG))
    About 100 meters when stabilized (as big or bigger than the tallest building in the city. Adapts to the level of nearby civilization)
    *Its weight stays the same no matter the statebeing the same as the normal Arcueid. Given that its just the lifeforce spilling out from Earth given shape, if pressed to give an answer, Id say its weight is the mass of Earth, or something. So, no matter the action it takes, as long as its on the surface of Earth, its not heavy, and so consequently, its weight doesnt cause any damage to the terrainmeaning, when the Luminary walks, it doesnt cause the ground to sink in or anything like that. However, this does not apply to man-made objects.
    If normal Arcueid is:
    STR B CON B AGI B MGI A LCK B NP EX
    Then Luminary Arcueid is:
    STR E CON EX AGI B MGI A++ LCK EX NP D
    By taking an energy form, she employs the magical energy she normally doesnt use as attack power. Because of this, her MGI has gone up, while the STR she no longer has any need for has ranked down.


    Personal Skills

    Marble Phantasm: D
    Though Arcueid normally has this skill at A, here it has been ranked down to D.

    True Ancestors in a Luminary state can only use their Marble Phantasm in an approximate manner.

    Due to having turned into a Luminary, she cannot construct any detailed fantasies.
    Event Storage: EX
    The ability to conceptually and physically store things that have been cultivated on the surface of Earth.

    The confiscation of all creations birthed on the surface of the planetits Textures.

    An ability on par with the Divine Spirits so-called Authorities, though given that its a function possessed by the planet, it is less of a skill, and more of a system.

    The gravitational field that appears under Arcueids feet when she has turned into a Luminary has enough of a reach to store all Textures on Earth.
    Mana Discharge (Planetary): A
    The super version of Mana Dischargethe Breath of the Planet.

    What animals know as breathing. She inhales magical energy (mana) from the atmosphere and then exhales it into the outer world as new magical energy after circulating it through her bodya Mana Cleaner.

    This is the reason why the Earth gets filled with high-density mana when the Luminary appears, causing humans to die.

    The gravitational field that appears under Arcs feet when shes turned into a Luminary has enough of a reach to store all Textures on Earth.


    Class Skills (Passives)

    Luminary: A
    Rapid expansion (Inflation) of the Spiritron Core.
    A phenomenon more simply called a Luminary.

    (Inflation is originally terminology from astronomyits what the exponential expansion of the universe that occured after the Big Bang is called) A state of excitation possessed by True Ancestors of the highest gradetheir royalty. Its said to occur as a side-effect when the True Ancestor has by some means had its body completely destroyed.
    When Arcueida small yet heavy beingloses the body which forms her
    box
    frame
    , the compressed magical energy within it is released, which results in her Lifescale expanding (though this is actually just a false impression).

    Though Arcueids consciousness is in the center of this light, as she no longer possesses a body to serve as a wall, she takes a state where her surplus magical energy levels remain, while the sort of self-image she imagines for herself is projected and dispersed. The Association calls this a Spiritron Frame (Lightframe). In other words, this is a natural phenomenon created out of nothing but mental power.

    If one carelessly destroys a True Ancestor who still has magical energy in surplus, the energy stored within their body manifestsa retribution mechanismand they become a calamity that destroys human cities.

    Arcueid does not cause Inflation when Roa still has part of her power and shes about to die from maceration, but with her having killed Roa in Ciel Route, her love toward Shiki causes her to bug outunable to keep suppressing her vampiric urges, she brings about this phenomenon. Correction: she unintentionally brings about this phenomenon.
    Luminary Arcueid is about 200 meters when shes emerging, and about 100 when shes stabilized her dispersed consciousness and is in her normal state.

    Mystic Eyes (Hyper Wide-Range)

    All intelligent beings who Luminary Arc look at will have their minds paralyzed, either out of fear, or out of worship.

    Unless those seen by Luminary Arc have unusually powerful mental strength, both escaping and fighting is infeasible.

    Fantasy Dequantification (Nullification of Normal Attacks)

    Because of being in a mental form, only attacks which Arcueid recognizes as oh, this one will suck are capable of wounding her.

    In addition, being in an energy form means all injuries she receives are instantly restored to normal.

    Geothermal Manipulation & Atmospheric Manipulation

    To change the surrounding environment into a harsh one.

    The ground going into high-temperatures alone is enough to impede the activity of life, with all that approaches at the mercy of the atmospheric turbulence, as though a leaf in the windin short, shes a personification of natural disasters.

    An existence which is earthquakes, typhoons, tsunamis, and the likes, all put together.

    Princess Arc from Melty used all these consciously and intentionally, while Luminary Arc can only ever use them unconsciously and reactionarily.

    They are only activating automatically as biological functions, and cannot be controlled.

    Princess Arc is actually the one who is the superior of the two, given that she can properly use these disasters as weapons, and is able to keep damages to a minimum.

    The Luminary is not a form meant for attacking, but for regeneration.

    It is nothing more than a necessary procedure for recreating the body of the True Ancestor so they will once again be able to act out their role as one. Therefore, its unable to move from the spot where it manifested, no matter what (as there is no need to).

    Its sort of like the cores and surface-level synchrotron radiation quantity of stars.

    The convergence of hydrogen and helium through strong gravity leads to planets being pressed together into masses of resources, eventually forming a benign crust after they cool down, while a Luminary is meant to turn into a body after its convergence.

    The benefit to having a body goes without saying: the establishment of an egoa self. Remaining a Luminary means that eventually the consciousness would eventually merge with the Earth itself and then disperse as mere energy.

    → However, in Ciel Route, as Arc couldnt control her reason/emotions, she also couldnt cancel her Luminary. The only thing awaiting her at the end of that would be to perish from dispersal.

    → In addition, once she started walking out of jealousy, she gave up on being a chrysalis. Though the Luminary is ultimately a system meant for returning her to normal, once it is employed as an individual lifeform, even Arcueid will start falling apart at the seams, and eventually completely perish.

    → On the other hand if one was to use the Luminary as a means of birthing a new, stronger individual instead of as a means of returning it to normal, then this would not apply. It would be able to act as a new True Ancestor, while the Arcueid of before would then quite literally disappear.

    Lore

    Concerning the suppression of Arcueid's power.

    The True Ancestors are the Touch of Earthsomething like its immune system.

    True Ancestors of the highest grade like Arcueid are one step above that of an immune systemsomething which would no doubt be appropriate to label as the Alter-Ego of Earth.

    (In fact, the True Ancestors were only ever birthed to create a frame on the level of an Alter-Ego of Earth. All True Ancestors outside of Arc were failures. Yet in the True Ancestors last days, they succeeded in creating the Brain of the Planet that had been desired in the first place).

    However, that such a lifeform would conduct itself in a human body could in itself actually be said to be something abnormal.

    If you pack the energy of a celestial object into a tiny human body, it shouldnt come as a surprise that it would suddenly go out of control.

    As long as Arcueid remains active, her output is limited to always be one step above her opponent, but this is not a representation of her sheer power.
    This is to protect the body in its function as an output device, and to prevent wasting energy (for the earth).

    However, in the case that the limiter of the body is taken away from her, and Arcueids mental activity is unabated, the suppression of her power is undone.

    The magical energy hidden within her body disperses almost in an explosion, and the limit on her ability to draw energy from the Earth is removed.

    This is Inflationthe Inflationary Luminary Phenomenon.

    Though normally bound to the planet's interior, being a soul (the chances of a celestial object being born in space is practically none. Force of Fate and Spacetime Causality which lets this be established is defined as a soul) meant for prolonged utilization (administration) of its celestial object, once it leaks onto the surface, it causes a system critical error.


    That said, True Ancestors almost never enter this state.

    The usual True Ancestors mind is worn down by having to suppress themselves, so when their body is destroyed, they do not have the mental strength (as it is abated) to recover

    Luminaries have manifested in battles with fallen True Ancestorsthose who have succumbed to their own vampiric urgesbut in those cases the Luminaries did not emerge on as large a scale as Arcueid did.

    If thou wisheth to exterminate a True Ancestor, thou shalt first wear down its mind

    This is a teaching passed down among the Church. Just as this precept suggests, Executors do not assassinate True Ancestors from the shadows, but instead defeat them in prolonged all-out wars from head-onor alternativelypush them into self-termination from a lack of magical energy (because if you kill them via a sneak attack, theres a high chance theyll turn into a Luminary).

    Concerning the actions of Luminary Arc

    Her gigantic size alone makes her powerful, but her actions are not all that showy.

    The same goes for when she caught Ciel:


    1. She slowly reaches out for the astonished Ciel.
      Ciel, feeling she is in a pinch, tries to move back, but her body is heavy.
    2. Though Ciel would normally be capable of easily dodging Arcs hand, she only barely manages.
      She pushes her body to try to keep going and create some distance, but it doesnt obey.
    3. Ciel then notices that just being inside of Arcs zone of influence causes a litany of debuffs such as
      The thinning of the air, the heating of the ground, and whats more, gravity being kind of weird.
    4. However, even having noticed this, its far too late.
      Arc enjoys watching Ciel pathetically squirm as she tries to escape.
      At this point, Ciel is practically done forsewn into space from being looked at by Arc.
    5. Ciel can do nothing but watch with despair on her face as Arcueid slowly lowers her hand onto her.
      Once caught, the spectacle of her dismemberment inside of Arcs hand begins.

    The dangers brought on by the three zones of influence

    Arc has three layers of consciousness in her Luminary model.

    3: AMAZINGExtended Consciousness that goes beyond the Surface Consciousness into the outer world.

    (AMAZINGwith the meaning of awethe fascination of the unknown born from amazement and wonder)

    It starts from 300 meters outside the Luminary and extends for several kilometers.

    Air turbulence originating from the inside of the Surface Consciousness (2) is let loose (spills out) onto the Extended Consciousness, almost like sharp blades.

    The turmoil of the harsh winds, magnetic fields and more, mean that the closer one gets to Arcueid, the more dangerous it becomes. It is impossible for a human to enter the zone of influence of her Surface Consciousness (2) unless theyre in a tank.

    Though this is already a dangerous state, physically speaking, the more one distances oneself from the Luminary, the less the danger becomes.

    Luminary Arc is completely unaware of the lifeforms inside this Extended Consciousness.

    Humans who challenge it are like Don Quixote, voluntarily challenging a dragonvoluntarily going off to die.

    Here, the Luminary can be seen as a dome of lightor alternatively, as some kind of symbol.

    2: AUDIENCESurface Consciousness that extends radially for 300 meters diagonally with the Luminary at its center.

    (AUDIENCEnot with the meaning of spectators or onlookers, but that of being granted audience)

    Within the 300 meters of the Surface Consciousness, afforestation proceeds far more dramatically.

    The Luminary goes from looking like some light thing to a human-shaped titan.

    The vegetation that covers the grounds surface are the same primordial plants as known to mankind, but their size and resilience make them almost completely differentbasically, theyre huge, almost 10 to 20 times larger than usual.

    These clearly display just how tough the vegetation of the Earth was in the past.

    No matter how weak and adapted to the current environment of life that nature of modernity may be, it doesnt change how frightening this primeval (paleozoic) vegetation once was (before the Mesozoic and the Jurassic periods when the dinosaurs lived, there werent any plants that could bear flowers, so be careful to not add that).

    It gives off the intimidating impression that primeval nature was far more powerful than human civilization is.

    Within this zone of influence, the ground is covered in primeval vegetation, making travel by foot almost entirely impossible (though this does not apply to people who are superhuman).

    The difference in atmospheric pressure between the ground and the sky (temperature gradients caused by the oxygen consumption of the gigantic vegetation) perturbs the airflow, creating a corridor of harsh wind from the intersection of up- and downdrafts.

    Obstructed by the plants, it becomes impossible to move on land, while the air turbulence in the sky makes it impossible to fly particularly well.

    And yet, under these kinds of conditions, the automatic counter-attacks performed by the standard rampaging Arc are carried out as well.

    This is because once an enemy has entered the Surface Consciousness, they are obviously recognized as suchas an enemy.

    If they then by some stroke of bad luck enter Arcs view, they will be restrained by her Mystic Eyes, at which point theyre doomed.

    The automatic counter-attacks become like invisible claws, either cutting the enemy into pieces, or blowing them up into the air like a leaf, toying with them until they die.
    Thinking that it's impossible to survive in the sky, one stops on the ground, only to find there is no oxygen left (the gigantic vegetation is sucking all of it up).

    As should be evident from all this, the Surface Consciousness is not an environment in which the current mankind could exist.

    Luminary Arc takes not a single action, settling the matter simply by recognizing those who enter as her enemyalmost as if they were fruit flies, flying toward their own death.

    1: SKINRAILDeep Unconsciousness that exists close (within 30 meters) to herself

    (SKINwith the meaning of the skin also being a railing, even if its close enough of a distance to touch with others)

    In this zone of influence, the visual impairments coming from the turbulent airflow, the distortions of the Luminarys energy, and so on, disappear, and the Luminary can be seen for real.

    Unlike the revolving airflow hell that was the Surface Consciousness, here the atmosphere is stable, with the environment suited for life.

    Once something enters this zone of influence, Luminary Arc willthough hesitantlycounter-attack.

    Just by pointing her gaze towards them, she can invoke heat waves and gales that blow them away with an impact thats almost like a hammer.

    Luminary Arc herself almost never does things like punch or stomp though.

    If they then stop moving after running out of energy, shell probably leave them be
    But if they happen to be an enemy she has an interest in, shell probably use her Atmospheric Manipulation to bring them up (into the air) before her eyes.

    She went to the effort of stretching out her arms so ostentatiously in trying to terrify Ciel becauseyesCiel was special.

    As for Shiki, she stubbornly refused to ever touch him on her own, due to him having touched herthis pretend indifference is thought to have been a snide way for her to get back at him.

    And now for some FAQs about the Luminary.

    Can you touch it?

    Once it enters a stable state, the Luminary materializesso yes, it has hit detection.

    It feels both like hard stone and flowing water to the touch.

    Also, Arc can will parts of it to rarefy, and when she does that, she can pass those through buildings and what-not.

    Since it's light, does that mean its hot?

    Its a bit hot, but not enough to get burned.

    How much reason is left in Luminary Arc?

    Enough. She doesnt feel like saying very much, but that doesnt mean her reason is lost. Its more that her True Ancestor supernaturality has gotten stronger.

    She does talk, but not with her voice, instead sending orders directly to the other partys brain (telepathy), meaning that her lips dont move when she speaks.

    What does she look like to humans?

    Depends on the situation and how far away they are.

    First, when shes emerging: its totally fine if shes super scary here. I think something to the effect of the demonic terror found in the storyboard is fine.

    Then, when shes stabilizedaround the time when shes caught Ciel and is playing around with her:

    When someone is distantly removed from the Luminary300 meters or more outside her zone of influenceshe only looks like light, while if theyre within the 300 meters of her zone of influence, she has a human shape. I think it'd be fine if one could see that there are eye-shaped holes (kind of like cavities) where her mouth, eyes, etc, are supposed to be.

    When even closer to the Luminary30 meters within Arcs zone of influencethen the light being emitted looks more subdued, with her eyes and mouth (lips) shining with the brilliance of life. In fact, make her look even more beautiful than normal Arcueid.

    This is like a perception manipulation effect that the Luminary has against intelligent beings.

    Those who look on from afar will get the impression of something terrifyingly unknowable.
    While those who have arrived close will get the impression of something beautifully unknowable.

    Those who are far away are enemies who are to be killed without being shown the truth.
    While those who are close by are allies who are to be given a glimpse of the trutha truly spiritually divine (religiously speaking) mechanism.
    Translator's notes
    - The last line of Event Storage and Mana Discharge being essentially the same (aside from Arc's name) is not an error. This is really how it is.

    - Remember that these texts were made as internal documents for the development of the games, hence why there are references to 'do this, do that' or 'I think this, I think that' sometimes. A good example is the part about the zones of influence, where Nasu occasionally seems to be noting down instructions on how to visualize the Luminary.

    - A lot of things written down here are said verbatim by Roa when he exposits about the Luminary in TsukiRE, in case people found some passages similar.
    "Die from maceration"?

    Is this correct ir should it be "emaciation" or something else?

    (To me it's kinda hilarious because maceration in Spanish usually refers to food preparation xD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    By the time of Tsukihimes story, that which can be called magic has decreased to five.
    The wording couldn't possibly be any more frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Is this correct ir should it be "emaciation" or something else?
    Yeah, oops.

    I'll change it a bit, it's awkward with emaciation nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    The wording couldn't possibly be any more frustrating.
    Lol, I can simplify it a bit.

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    I guess it's deliberately vague, but at least now it doesn't read like 'Blue is the only Magic left' anymore, thanks.

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