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    全力後輩 - Zenryoku Kohai Altima of the Gates's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    I miss when the concept was rare and far between.
    The concept of a foreign MC diving into another world was never rare or uncommon though. Escaflowne, El Hazard, so many other under the table shows.

    Its just that like with modern entertainers like streamers, its entered the "variety" type of content, a running through the categories type of thing. Just like you have your gamer oni who is a cook as a variety entertainer, your isekai plays with a show about gamer moms who have things for their sons in a game world.

    So its like ticking the checkboxes, but sometimes that works, because for entertainment sometimes you just wanna have it your way and get your milf in your SAO pizza with a side order of harem.
    Badabababah.

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    Is there really any point in comparing FSN 2006 to the new stuff in this topic of "fans being unfair to adaptations"?
    As far as I'm aware FSN fans don't like any of the anime. UBW 2014 got bashed for years and now suddenly you see some who defend it.
    HF Trilogy was god's gift to this not-wonderful community for a while because "better direction" or what not, and now you see people trash the movies as if they were even worse than 2006.

    Who cares. They're fun if they're fun. They're not if they're not. TM fans are the last people to agree on anything. Just look at how much KnK6 gets bashed, but as soon as you compare it to 2006 or Tsuki2003, it's not a bad adaptation anymore and its defenders forget how they memed that "Kurogiri is done better in the recap movie" for years.

    I think the problem is more about the whole "old vs new" or "mine vs theirs" attitude. Some are willing to ignore Ufotable's hiccups while mocking Deen for the same reasons.
    It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    The concept of a foreign MC diving into another world was never rare or uncommon though. Escaflowne, El Hazard, so many other under the table shows.
    No way they were remotely as common as they have been the last 10 years. Especially if you branch out a little and include any kind of alternate takes on the trope like reincarnating back in time with cheat powers or whatever and crossover with game/fantasy worlds invading their world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkipRow View Post
    Is there really any point in comparing FSN 2006 to the new stuff in this topic of "fans being unfair to adaptations"?
    As far as I'm aware FSN fans don't like any of the anime. UBW 2014 got bashed for years and now suddenly you see some who defend it.
    HF Trilogy was god's gift to this not-wonderful community for a while because "better direction" or what not, and now you see people trash the movies as if they were even worse than 2006.

    Who cares. They're fun if they're fun. They're not if they're not. TM fans are the last people to agree on anything. Just look at how much KnK6 gets bashed, but as soon as you compare it to 2006 or Tsuki2003, it's not a bad adaptation anymore and its defenders forget how they memed that "Kurogiri is done better in the recap movie" for years.

    I think the problem is more about the whole "old vs new" or "mine vs theirs" attitude. Some are willing to ignore Ufotable's hiccups while mocking Deen for the same reasons.
    It is what it is.
    That's what's wrong with literally every fanbase. Literally every fanbase online has it's sub-factions that disagree on everything. It's not at all exclusive to TM fans and many of them are worse about it. It's generally why I don't interact with many communities anymore.

    To be fair people in this thread did compare FSN 2006 to other shows that came out that year and even brought up the review scores from that year since it was brought up early on. It's not like the entire thread was comparing FSN 2006 to stuff that was coming out now. Ufotable mostly got brought up when the argument went in that direction trying to defend the tsuki anime. It's not like the anti-tsuki camp went "muh ufotable adaptations tho" which seems like you were trying to imply. If you weren't I apologize but that's how it read to me.

    Also I was under the assumption the ufo UBW show while flawed was still generally always well liked and at worst indifferent. The only people I have seen who outright hate that show are people who just hate the franchise because they think it doesn't make sense. We might just be looking at different sections of the community but I haven't come across what you described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkipRow View Post
    Is there really any point in comparing FSN 2006 to the new stuff in this topic of "fans being unfair to adaptations"?
    As far as I'm aware FSN fans don't like any of the anime. UBW 2014 got bashed for years and now suddenly you see some who defend it.
    HF Trilogy was god's gift to this not-wonderful community for a while because "better direction" or what not, and now you see people trash the movies as if they were even worse than 2006.

    Who cares. They're fun if they're fun. They're not if they're not. TM fans are the last people to agree on anything. Just look at how much KnK6 gets bashed, but as soon as you compare it to 2006 or Tsuki2003, it's not a bad adaptation anymore and its defenders forget how they memed that "Kurogiri is done better in the recap movie" for years.

    I think the problem is more about the whole "old vs new" or "mine vs theirs" attitude. Some are willing to ignore Ufotable's hiccups while mocking Deen for the same reasons.
    It is what it is.
    I was not aware UBW 2014 have been bashed back then.

    Actually, on the web, most of the people see it as a masterpiece. the only part where UBW TV receive some critisism, it's about the music and the Archer vs Shirou(and in a less extend Gil vs Shirou) were most of the people agree it was better in 2010 movie

    Actually, I think UBW 2014 and FSN 2006 are at the same level of quality.

    UBW have the animation point

    Fate 2006 have the music

    the 2 serie have really outdated CGI for their time of release (the Caster minion or the water when she attack on the bridge seem to come from a serie from Gonzo release in 2003)

    And for the writing, I think each serie have quality and flaws and some of them are the same in the 2 series.

    For KnK06, I think it worse than Tsuki2003, Tsuki 2003 tell a flawed story, KnK06 don't tell anything (but actually KnK as a whole is flawed like Tsuki2003 even in the novel, it seem incomplete, it just worse in the movies, it's why I don't like the movies, they should have fixed the novel but they add even more problem)

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    Good to see some love for 2006 and 2010 adaptations, to me not only for that standard, even now, Deen adaptations are far better that Ufotable ones. Yuji Yamaguchi was the best director and with much difference. Like some one says, bridging differences, were like replaying the vn in anime medium. And not only that, the amount of things that the anime created laid the foundations for what came later.

    Anyway, I enjoy both animation studios adaptations.
    Last edited by Shirou30; November 24th, 2022 at 03:59 PM.

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    I really like Yuji yamaguchi direction, I don't really like Touka gettan and Yami bosshi, but the directing of these series was really unique and great and Fate 2006 have the same feeling. And actually, I me me Strawberry egg was the first anime I see un fansub (I seen many anime before, but in fansub it was the first).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoker View Post
    The only people I have seen who outright hate that show are people who just hate the franchise because they think it doesn't make sense. We might just be looking at different sections of the community but I haven't come across what you described.
    Actually, I hate Ufo UBW, I agree it's a good show but I hate it.
    It's like everything I don't like in what became type moon after 2010.

    I hate the direction of the serie who made Rin a silly tsundere who could be voiced by Rie Kugumiya (aka the tsundere you want to kill because she is just annoying) abd her chara design who made her look like a dog.,
    I hate monkey like Berserker who make capoeira on dubstep music.
    I hate the fact the serie remove most of the fun part of the VN and the slice of life because the serie is made as a sequel to Fate Zero.
    I hate the bad retcon flash back of Caster
    I hate the giants attacking Gil.
    I hate the Archer vs Shirou fight, boring as hell
    I hate the fact the serie spoil gilgamesh and Ilya as kiritsugu daughter at the beginning of the show.
    I found silly Shirou doing 10 meters jump
    I hate the massive use of bad CGI.
    I hate the too realistic background with minimalist chara design.
    I hate the serie is always dark.
    I hate the fact the serie use Fate epilogue for UBW route.

    I think that during the original airing, I only liked 3 Úpisodes of the whole serie.

    And I hate this (and don't just dislike it) because the fans are forgiving of theses issue in UBW and not in Fate 2006.

    I think the fans of ufotable typemoon are mostly the reason I stopped to be fan of typemoon works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chevkraken View Post
    And I hate this (and don't just dislike it) because the fans are forgiving of theses issue in UBW and not in Fate 2006.

    I think the fans of ufotable typemoon are mostly the reason I stopped to be fan of typemoon works.
    I forgive the issues of both UBW and Fate 2006. I think they're both entertaining animes. Either way though, I don't think you should let other people discourage you from watching media you enjoy just because they have different opinions on the quality of a specific work. And if someone tells you that you can't like something because they dislike it just ignore them.

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