[FGO JP Main Chapter] Lostbelt 7: Nahui Mictlan ~ The One Who Rules the Planet

[Sath]

I took the "mansion" as Kirei committing to his roleplay.

[Petrikow]

I just realized something. Olga was thrown into CHALDEAS, and was experimented on in their A51 and all that jazz we already know, and now that we know UOM was a Servant, that means it would've gotten summoned "from" Olga, taking her personality as "base" or whatever. But if UOM was a Servant, it would have to be summoned, and of course it got its body in Olympus, not like it possessed Olga inside CHALDEAS and then just popped out. That is to say, UOM disappeared in LB7 (for now), but for all we know, the actual Olga should still exist within CHALDEAS, no? If the A51 we connected to in Traum is the one inside CHALDEAS, I would assume she was moved from there, but still, I can very much see us finding the real one in there when we pop inside.

It could be that the branch is all that's left of her.

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I just realized something. Olga was thrown into CHALDEAS, and was experimented on in their A51 and all that jazz we already know, and now that we know UOM was a Servant, that means it would've gotten summoned "from" Olga, taking her personality as "base" or whatever. But if UOM was a Servant, it would have to be summoned, and of course it got its body in Olympus, not like it possessed Olga inside CHALDEAS and then just popped out. That is to say, UOM disappeared in LB7 (for now), but for all we know, the actual Olga should still exist within CHALDEAS, no? If the A51 we connected to in Traum is the one inside CHALDEAS, I would assume she was moved from there, but still, I can very much see us finding the real one in there when we pop inside.

Also, what became of that "mansion" or whatever Rasputin/UOM mentioned in 7.1? I feel like that never came up again either.

If she's Servant, it means the original one is dead. Likely from the experiments on Specimen E.

[fumei]

I took the "mansion" as Kirei committing to his roleplay.

Yeah but where/what was it? Like, it couldn't have been CHALDEAS which they would've gone back to later, because he said this before they gave up on ORT.

It could be that the branch is all that's left of her.

Sad.

If she's Servant, it means the original one is dead. Likely from the experiments on Specimen E.

Olga "dies" in 2015. Even if we assume a local "lock" on the throne, she should be summonable no matter what in 2117 (also you know, literally EMIYA).

[Nikiri]

I just checked and indeed when you get to the purple bar and go back to the map, the sound effect is the exact same as before Shiki does the last hit of his Arc Drive., or first hit of his Last Arc. Actually clapping IRL right now.

so that's what the sound was, i was wondering what kind of firearm could possible makes such strange noise

[ballinamon]

If she's Servant, it means the original one is dead. Likely from the experiments on Specimen E.

Not necessarily. We have the original case: Artoria.

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Remember how he had a Grand-scale Saint Graph in LB4? That is never EVER referenced in the entire chapter; in fact, he's way weaker because he's in a human body the whole time, so what the hell was up with that!? I know his lines imply he took the seat of Grand Assassin because KH left it open (so what was the point of "only KH can be grand assassin" if anyone related to mountains can take it), but that doesn't even make sense either, because in the Grand fight dream, which is literally the only thing that even comes close to referencing his supposed Grand status (or equivalent power in Saint Graph, at least) in the whole chapter, he's Zerker, not Assassin. I really can't tell if I missed something obvious with this, if Nasu straight up forgot, or what.

Maybe he either sacrificed Grand vessel to take Olga's heart (ripping off a Beast's heart must be hard) or was defeated in the Grand fight and had to manifest using human body because Grand vessel got destroyed?

[ballinamon]

I feel like any interpretation other than "it happened" is actual coping. They never 'clear it up', because it was obviously always supposed to be a flashback.

I think it MEANS something because if not why that exists and what is the need of placeholders when it could have been formless shadows. I'm still in the simulation camp. The question is, why the simulation?

[Gelious]

I don't understand how Olga gets to be Servant in the first place. She is not a famous historical figure and is not an agent of Counter Force.

[Nanaya]

Still kind of wish they had a cutscene showing Tepeu actually using MeoDP like how Comun described but I'm just going to chalk it up to "they were already in a hurry to begin with"

They didn't have the resources required to realize the majesty of Tohdino Shiki spraying the lines with gunfire and shattering ORT to pieces.

[Link0306]

I mean anyone can be a Servant these days, look at Shiki

Also since Zelretch can check other parallel worlds without going into them, I wonder if he's watching the shit going on in LB7 like "Shit, the Spider woke up. That's not good." ...While eating popcorn like it's a movie

(Also I wonder if it'll ever be revealed Zel was helping Chaldea indirectly somehow, like how he sent Ayaka in F/SF)

[fumei]

I don't understand how Olga gets to be Servant in the first place. She is not a famous historical figure and is not an agent of Counter Force.

You don't need to be a HS to be a Servant, even if the two get conflated even by the actual writers.

[Lily Emilio]

By the way, I didn't see this mentioned, but unless I'm getting my timeline mixed up, when the scene where Tepeu leaves to join the other Deinos in fighting ORT happens, ORT still has a break bar remaining, but after the scene ends, that break bar disappears. I think this is supposed to show Tepeu did use MEoDP on ORT.

ある者は、稲妻のような軌跡で空を駆け、円盤の命の一つを殺し、その代償として手足をもがれて 地に落ちた。
You can take this as Tohdino Shiki ditching his machine gun and chomp down one of ORT's lives, or a hidden gigachad dino.

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I don't understand how Olga gets to be Servant in the first place. She is not a famous historical figure and is not an agent of Counter Force.

Privilege of being OP. ORT could make a servant outta itself, the other Beasts can make a servant of themselves.

[fumei]

ある者は、稲妻のような軌跡で空を駆け、円盤の命の一つを殺し、その代償として手足をもがれて 地に落ちた。
You can take this as Tohdino Shiki ditching his machine gun and chomp down one of ORT's lives, or a hidden gigachad dino.

Ah yeah, forgot about that line.

[Comun]

I don't understand how Olga gets to be Servant in the first place. She is not a famous historical figure and is not an agent of Counter Force.

She's still unambiguously described as a god even after the reveal. It's clear enough to me that she achieved genuine apotheosis from all the worship she got between 2015 and 2117.

[ballinamon]

I don't understand how Olga gets to be Servant in the first place. She is not a famous historical figure and is not an agent of Counter Force.

Assuming that CHALDEAS have their own Counterforce it could do whatever. Heck, the Apostles could be their Counter Guardians/Grand equivalent.

[Kirishima]

People made U-Olga true by begging her to come back and hyping her up during Moonlight Lostroom

[Formless Creature]

It turns out that Olga became a Servant because we, the players, wanted her to be playable

[Kirishima]

That's how it all works in the end isn't it?

[TomPen94]

The natural circle of capitalism.

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A part of me would prefer her to stay unsummonable, or at least unrollable, and thus special, but on the other hand the fanart boom would dwarf the one we did get when LB7.1 dropped.