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    So there could be Types or aliens living on stars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sentence View Post
    So there could be Types or aliens living on stars?

    Is ORT UO of Mercury(水星)or comet(彗星)?

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    Ixquic confirms it as originating from the comet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sentence View Post
    So there could be Types or aliens living on stars?
    ORT was "eating human history" as the raid advanced.
    If a lifeform can eat conceptual bullshit then there being some sort of lifeform that can live in a star doesn't seem that out there in comparison.

    If you're hung up on the fact that a star doesn't have a solid surface you can plonk your feet onto, neither do the gas giants within our very own solar system. What we call a "surface" on those planets is just when the density of the gas surpasses a specific threshold. And the gas giants have Types, so why not a star. As pointed out, the terminology covers for them just as much as planets.
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    This discussion makes me wonder what exactly Nasu meant by a World Egg frame being superior to a Saint Graph. Every spiritual existence should have a Saint Graph to a degree, so what exactly are the properties of this World Egg that make it better? Doesn't seem like ORT has it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    This discussion makes me wonder what exactly Nasu meant by a World Egg frame being superior to a Saint Graph. Every spiritual existence should have a Saint Graph to a degree, so what exactly are the properties of this World Egg that make it better? Doesn't seem like ORT has it either.
    It is obvious by now that "Saint Graph" in FGO Arc profile is referring to a standard Servant Saint Graph summoned by Chaldea, not every single kind of Saint Graphs in existence, because the profile is probably written before the term is being used widely for literally everything Chaldea can analyze now.

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    Saint Graph at this point feels like the generic term for a spiritual body. Every body that isn't flesh and blood is a Saint Graph.

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    It's kinda weird, because originally it was just used to refer to things with Classes... Or to make it more substantiated, anything related to the Heroic Spirit Summoning System.

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    Multiple writers moment maybe

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    Pretty sure all of them have just gotten F/GO brain. It never came up before F/GO, but now it's this thing that appears all the time. I blame Sanda for involving it outside of F/GO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Multiple writers moment maybe
    Sure but in this case Nasu himself is corroborating these decisions with his own writing.

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    Wasn't there someone that pointed out a while ago that the term did exist before FGO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio View Post
    It is obvious by now that "Saint Graph" in FGO Arc profile is referring to a standard Servant Saint Graph summoned by Chaldea, not every single kind of Saint Graphs in existence, because the profile is probably written before the term is being used widely for literally everything Chaldea can analyze now.
    Hmmm I don't think that's the case though. It refers to a Saint Graph as an entirely different category from World Egg. To me it reads as having less to do with a Servant Saint Graph and more the fact it's a Saint Graph at all.
    Saint Graph's different designations have been a thing for a long time now tbh, way before Arc was added to FGO.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Can't wait for the FSN remake in 2045 to have over a thousand instances of Saint Graph in its script.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delastogos View Post
    Wasn't there someone that pointed out a while ago that the term did exist before FGO?
    I can only imagine one thing evil enough that this is the case: Fragments. I'm not going to read it to find out, however.

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    True Ancestors are incarnated Elementals. Tsukihime Arc doesn't have a Saint Graph because she has a physical, flesh and blood body. Everything still fits.

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    Servants, Grands, Beasts... they all come from summoning ritual, so the term Saint Graph is applicable. But then there's ORT, and that's before it hacked into the Throne.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    I can only imagine one thing evil enough that this is the case: Fragments. I'm not going to read it to find out, however.
    I think it was in the original VN, but the term wasn't quite what it is today if i'm remembering correctly.

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    Imagine the irony if MC and co. managed to summon ORT as grand foreigner to fight Chaldeas.

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    I think we've gone over this before but what's the difference between a Spirit Origin and Saint Graph again? Until recently I thought they were the same thing and Saint Graph was just the ruby text.

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