[FGO JP Main Chapter] Lostbelt 7: Nahui Mictlan ~ The One Who Rules the Planet

[fumei]

Hey, does it mean we don't really need to defeat ORT? WE just need to prune Lostbelt and it will go away along with it. Neat

Well, there's a pretty simple theory you could come up with here regarding this.

We obviously can't fight ORT head on (when we're shown the future and are forced to fight it, we manage to take down a single massive health bar (unless you're Bazett, I guess) only for it to reveal 9 more with tens and hundreds of millions of HP, and it's only level 1 in this fight, so they're really hammering in that it's too strong for us), but based on this future we're shown we know that ORT's "goal" once it wakes up will be to crawl out of the Lostbelt and get to Antarctica to devour CHALDEAS and destroy the world. To do that, it obviously has to get to the top of Mictlan, and it's currently sleeping at the bottom. So the simplest theory to how a "story endgame" could play out is just that we'll never really fight ORT. All we'll do is set up stations to slow it down. I think this is somewhat corroborated by the meta fact that when we defeat the Alters in the underworld borders, they don't die or fade away. They stay, because they're "bound" to the regions. The only meta reasoning for this to be the case is if these Servants, with their newfound control over the borders they're bound to, become relevant again. So in that sense, it's very possible that the endgame here isn't about "defeating ORT", it's a race to see who reach their goal first: us going from Chichen Itza down to the Ceiba Tree to fell it, or ORT going from the tree up to the top of the world.

The borders are there to just slow it down, and likewise it could very well be that Tlaloc and Izcalli will help do the same, considering they're currently on Tezcatlipoca's side, but after being shown the future they're obviously a bit more hesitant since they want to create a good world, not whatever this shit they were shown is.

[rxrx]

I'd appreciate if you quoted it.

Found it. It is at the end of chapter 2 where MC meets up with Mashu and camps together with Olga

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[Noa]

By the way, is Tlaloc PHH or Lostbelt?

[Wyvern]

By the way, is Tlaloc PHH or Lostbelt?

PHH

She mentions events from PHH like Quetzalcoatl and the Spanish arriving to the Americas, saying she regrets not being able to protect her people from it and resenting Quetz for just accepting them.

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Well, there's a pretty simple theory you could come up with here regarding this.

We obviously can't fight ORT head on (when we're shown the future and are forced to fight it, we manage to take down a single massive health bar (unless you're Bazett, I guess) only for it to reveal 9 more with tens and hundreds of millions of HP, and it's only level 1 in this fight, so they're really hammering in that it's too strong for us), but based on this future we're shown we know that ORT's "goal" once it wakes up will be to crawl out of the Lostbelt and get to Antarctica to devour CHALDEAS and destroy the world. To do that, it obviously has to get to the top of Mictlan, and it's currently sleeping at the bottom. So the simplest theory to how a "story endgame" could play out is just that we'll never really fight ORT. All we'll do is set up stations to slow it down. I think this is somewhat corroborated by the meta fact that when we defeat the Alters in the underworld borders, they don't die or fade away. They stay, because they're "bound" to the regions. The only meta reasoning for this to be the case is if these Servants, with their newfound control over the borders they're bound to, become relevant again. So in that sense, it's very possible that the endgame here isn't about "defeating ORT", it's a race to see who reach their goal first: us going from Chichen Itza down to the Ceiba Tree to fell it, or ORT going from the tree up to the top of the world.

The borders are there to just slow it down, and likewise it could very well be that Tlaloc and Izcalli will help do the same, considering they're currently on Tezcatlipoca's side, but after being shown the future they're obviously a bit more hesitant since they want to create a good world, not whatever this shit they were shown is.

If the map shows ORT slowly advancing to the surface, like Babylonia with Tiamat and Chaos Tide would be really kino. A spider-like monstrosity, crawling out of a hole? I can imagine something like Hermit from House of the Dead.

[rxrx]

Wonder if Nasu will allow FGO crew to have a grand showdown with ORT or not.

[Aozaki-desu]

So, the New Year Servant, will it be U-Olga, Rasputin or someone else?

Its Olga.
The only servant suitable to replace her is Kirei and unless his plotline is resolved in this LB (which i dont think it is with Fuyuki still hanging), its Olga.
Which is perfectly fine by me, my quartz is almost ready.

Everything about playable Olga, from the extra rarity to the 300% battery Skill to the AoE regular attack, screams not rollable.

a different version of her, sure. She will probably even keep AOE attacks as her extra gimmick.

Beni Alter to continue the tradition of Asian Saber as New Year Servant.

Beni Alter is just a skin with extra steps, i would be really surprised if they sell her as a brand new servant

[Petrikow]

ソレは汎人類史ではまだ目覚めない筈の怪物。
It is a monster that should not yet be able to awaken in Pan-Human History.
もっとも完成されたこの異聞帯でのみ
生き続けた星喰らい。
It is a planet-devourer that can keep existing only in this more complete Lostbelt.
ソレは地底世界を蹂躙し、地上に這い上がり、
南極に到達し、オマエたちの希望を打ち砕く。
It will overrun this subterranean world, crawl up to the surface of the earth, arrive at the South Pole, and then smash your hopes to pieces.
カルデアの基地は無に帰すだろう。
天球は喰われるだろう。
It will surely reduce the facility of Chaldea to nothing.
It will surely devour the celestial sphere.
ソレは惑星上に自らの巣を拡げていき、
サイクルなどせず、この天体にトドメを刺す。
It will spread its nest across the surface of the planet, and without heed to the cycle, it will deliver the coup de grace to this celestial body.

Well, guess that's confirmed, btw.

[rxrx]

Well, guess that's confirmed, btw.

Can you see the screenshot I posted above for you?

[Petrikow]

Can you see the screenshot I posted above for you?

Yeah, sorry, was doing other stuff. Thanks.

I remember when I read that part I just took it as "shit I lost track of Olga", since he hadn't actually found her yet. He additionally says that his objective was only ever to find her when they meet up again.

[rxrx]

Yeah, sorry, was doing other stuff. Thanks.

I remember when I read that part I just took it as "shit I lost track of Olga", since he hadn't actually found her yet. He additionally says that his objective was only ever to find her when they meet up again.

He spoke the line after discovering Olga hanging out with MC and Mashu and being all friendly. Then again, we do not know what his goal is, but for now he is having fun being the loyal butler to his president.

[Gelious]

So... we gonna be Rayshifting inside Chaldeas device for our Grand Finale, then? That's what Morgan spoke of in LB 6 and that's why bad guys are so adamant about destroying it.

[Dartz]

Well, guess that's confirmed, btw.

I've been re-reading Tsukihime so I still haven't been able to catch up to latest FGO plot (still only in the Remnant Order storylines). But isn't the facility of CHALDEAS outside the Lost Belts? So this means ORT will exit the Lost Belt and destroy CHALDEAS and the planet in the present time?

[InsertNameHere]

He spoke the line after discovering Olga hanging out with MC and Mashu and being all friendly. Then again, we do not know what his goal is, but for now he is having fun being the loyal butler to his president.

Probably plans to send U-Olga, Guda+Mash, or both into despair by forcing them to fight each other again. Of course the question there is this: will U-Olga be willing to actually do so after all her adventures with us? Call it a gut feeling, but when all this is over we may end up helping her regain her lost humanity.

[AmADo VII]

Wonder if Nasu will allow FGO crew to have a grand showdown with ORT or not.

turning Storm Border's Excalibur into Slash Emperor?

[InsertNameHere]

I've been re-reading Tsukihime so I still haven't been able to catch up to latest FGO plot (still only in the Remnant Order storylines). But isn't the facility of CHALDEAS outside the Lost Belts? So this means ORT will exit the Lost Belt and destroy CHALDEAS and the planet in the present time?

So it seems. But why is Daybit targeting CHALDEAS specifically? It can't be because he's still working for the Alien God since it was supposedly neutralized when Anastasia froze it.

[Noa]

It's in Antarctica so yeah he'd have to leave. I didn't think Lostbelt beings were supposed to be able to leave them, but maybe ORT being able to is related to it overwriting space with Crystal Valley.

[pinetree]

ORT is not from our texture anyway so I doubt the differences between Lostbelts, blank earth, proper human history, etc even matter to him

[rxrx]

turning Storm Border's Excalibur into Slash Emperor?

Or have MC wield the blade with Mashu defending him along the way.

Transform into Nasuverse Ultraman by having Olga pass her powers to MC.

Whatever works

[fumei]

Well, there's a pretty simple theory you could come up with here regarding this.

Another thing for this which I was reminded of: when Kirei explains the rules of the underworld borders, he says that if you had the Storm Border's engines supporting you, you could effectively summon hundreds of Servants (on top of the rule which allows all possibilities), so yeah, they're definitely there as a blockade later.