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    Lostbelt 7 is basically that rick and morty's dinosaur episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Also, what is it with this bug where you pick a support and then someone else's face will appear in your party and if you go into battle you find you actually selected the Servant you meant to click on and not the one that was showing in your party
    Yeah, it happens when the other player places multiple Supports for the same class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shlugo View Post
    U-Olga roasting humanity about our foolish choices is hilarious. It comes off as more confused than condescending.



    OK, now this is interesting. Human Olga worked to preserve mankinds future, but she had no idea of a what that future should look like, or for whom should it exist. She had no idea what she really wanted, she just felt need to prove that she could do it.

    Ultra-Olga knows exactly what she wants and what kind of world she wishes to create. The contrast is fascinating.



    Olga is more weakened than I expected.
    Something more obvious is coming to mind here: the ends and the means are completely out of sync. Even with that rambling about wanting to start over with a more pliant humanity, her method has no way of actually creating a new humanity at all and she doesn't seem to know why she'd want to do so in the first place. Something else might have implanted that idea into her - she might think she knows what she wants and what kind of world she wants to make, but are those desires really her own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Also, what is it with this bug where you pick a support and then someone else's face will appear in your party and if you go into battle you find you actually selected the Servant you meant to click on and not the one that was showing in your party
    Oh, so I was not the only one. I also experienced that bug, I selected one specific Servant from my support list but the game put another one in my party selection.

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    I'm not too familiar with Mayan and Aztec myths, so how good is the representation in 2.7.1 so far?

    As for ORT, I hope we get to fight him again in the second half. The music and his appearance is way too awesome to miss.

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    The fight we got at the end of Part 1 is basically a test fight of what will happen in the future. We are guaranteed to fight against it, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    The fight we got at the end of Part 1 is basically a test fight of what will happen in the future. We are guaranteed to fight against it, that's for sure.
    Wonder if it will be a raid, or testing out players' boxes. The crystalized and absorption effect when ORT defeats our servant is amazing. Wonder if the gimmick of any servant defeated by ORT cannot be used again until x will be introduced as well.

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    Crack theory: Kuku is ORT's avatar/something related to it.

    Based off the crystalline green parts of her hair, as well as how Olga said the Luminous Body that Ganzan Ryozan Ha'd her was "A fusion of plants and minerals" and "the sun is a plant" going with ORT vaguely plant-like theming of attacks. Probably aiming to keep itself asleep not out of compassion, but rather to wait for the promised time.

    Crack theory, so I don't expect it to be true, but it'd be neat.

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    Tezcatlipoca's character designer, in the meantime:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shou_Tajima

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    I think ORT is the Great Spider Goddess of Teotihuacan



    Teotihuacan, where the Pyramid of the Sun, the Moon and the Feathered Serpent stands, means "the place where the gods were born", and the Great Spider Goddess is the main deity worshipped at this place. Notice the tree growing above her, which is the Ceiba Tree, the Mesoamerican World Tree.

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    Chapter 5: Life in Chichen Itza (I)

    People wake up and do their morning greetings in Tepeu's house. Marine slept instead of going into spirit form because he wouldn't be able to materialize again since he's not the main Nemo. That's not the best since there are only 19 Marines now, as 4 out of the original 24 died in Atlantis and 1 more died in Britain.

    Olga remembered more of her powers, so now she can show us videos of the routes to the Dinosaur King palace and reveal that the throne is empty. The king seems to be hiding elsewhere in case of an Ocelotl raid. From the information she could gather from the deinos brain waves, there's only one way for them to get their audience with the Dinosaur King. The law of the deinos says that the winner of the xoqqer tournament gets the right to speak with the king and be touched by Kukulkan.

    We need eleven players in a xoqqer team, so we need to go to town and recruit or join a winning team, preferably join. This time we get Olga to compromise and also accept the deinos disguise sacrament. But Kotomine refined the sacrament overnight so that only the deinos will see us as deinos, meaning we don't get to see what deinos sprite Olga gets.

    However, Olga wants to compete against Fujimaru, so they will each form their xoqqer team and take it to the tournament to see who made the best team. It's actually a better strategy to have more teams infiltrated in the tournament because any of them winning achieves our goal. So we go team 1 with Fujimaru and Mash, team 2 with Olga and Kotomine, and team 3 with Tepeu and Marine.




    Fujimaru and Mash walk around the city, seeing many deinos and their casual conversations. Mash goes into an absurdly lengthy infodump about Pan-Human dinosaurs, to which Habetrot reacts with just an "Ok, so what's the strongest dinosaur?". In Mash's opinion, it's the deinonychus. This doesn't help us because there are not many deinonychus-like deinos in town.

    We go to the arena to see all the players warming up. There we meet Team Death Rolling, a team of 11 deinonychus brothers who once won 7 tournaments in a row. Despite claiming to be 11 brothers, Fujimaru notes there are not 11 of them there. The deinos confesses a few team members are suffering from cocoa intoxication. Mash and Fujimaru ask to join their team, but they were originally trained by Tepeu before he left the city, so they can recognize Tepeu's smell in them. They challenge the two to a quick match to determine their mettle.

    [ <-Xoqqer match against the 7 deinonychus brothers-> ]

    Our xoqqer skills bring the deinonychus brothers to tears and we get accepted into the team. Turns out the team sucks because they're all offensive players, except for their defenders who happen to be ones who are unable to play because of the aforementioned cocoa intoxication. They're clearly not the kind to think things through. Their default strategy is diving into the enemy team because the deinonychus are small and light, and so get easily sent flying causing the opponent to get a yellow card for it.




    As a proud former student of King Leonidas, Mash is putting our xoqqer team through the hardcore Spartan training routine. The team deinos are unsatisfied with her strictness but understand it's important to win because that pain in the ass Vucub doesn't let anyone see the king otherwise. Their team hasn't won since Tepeu left because he would analyze the enemy teams and formulate strategies for them. Also in the glory days of their 7 consecutive tournament win streak, they were free to exploit their aforementioned diving tactic, but Daybit's arrival updated the rules of xoqqer so their opponents could get away with 3 fouls per game. Now they needed to get knocked away 4 times to expel each defender, and that's what caused the death of the 4 absent brothers. The cocoa intoxication story was a lie. Despite this, the remaining brothers still love xoqqer.

    The xoqqer team clearly misses Tepeu and wishes he never left, but they understand how isolated he must have felt in the city when no one else would share his desire for knowledge. They think company would be worse than solitude for him. But they're glad to be proven wrong by the company Tepeu is getting in Fujimaru and Mash.

    The team then warns Mash and Fujimaru that every xoqqer player needs to have their own ball to offer as tribute to Kukulkan in the ritual. They point to the forest in the west, where they need to extract resin to make their xoqqer balls.




    Back at Tepeu's house, Tepeu and Marine are home, having already formed Team South American Nautilus before we joined Team Death Rolling. Olga and Rasputin still aren't back from the team-making mission. We remind Tepeu of the participation requirement. Tepeu sends Marine back to pass their strategy to the team while Tepeu goes with Mash and Fujimaru to gather material to make everyone's balls. He guides them to the latex trees, where the group is ambushed by Ocelomeh.

    [ <-Battle against Ocelomeh-> ]

    After defeating the Ocelomeh, they hear even more gunshots. Following the sounds, they find a maskless human boy who appears to be a child version of the afterlife man who will later be revealed to be Tezcatlipoca. The boy shoots at the Ocelomeh for putting their fingers on the trigger and then not killing him. The child complains that Daybit is not instructing the jaguar warriors right. He sees Mash and Fujimaru and asks why they aren't wearing their masks. He implies he doesn't need a mask because he's ranked above Ocelotl. Fujimaru and Mash's lack of masks is against the Ocelotl rules, but he lets it slide because they didn't aim their guns at him. He disappears, musing about how Mictlan is doomed because the deinos and Ocelomeh can only think about winning the war. Tepeu later comes back carrying the whole trees we need to make our balls. We tell him about the human boy and he thinks we hallucinated the kid.




    Everyone is at the dinner table. Tepeu will make everyone's xoqqer balls overnight, having them ready just in time for the tournament. They go to bed early because the tournament is early in the morning. Fujimaru can't sleep, so they go outside and find Olga on the rooftop watching the deinos city life. Olga's eyes can faintly see the Storm Boarder as just an iron box among the dense trees. She can't give us any details on the crew's situation, but she can count 12 people there, so we know everyone is still alive. She chides Fujimaru to go to sleep, and here we find out that Olga doesn't sleep. She can shut down as a safety measure during an emergency, but she doesn't dream. Olga can see from the brain wave color that Fujimaru feels sorry for her and she's insulted by it. They still try to treat her as another human regardless of their differences, much to her annoyance. But she does have a vague feeling failed at something important before because she gave up before she tried, so she will try sleeping tonight.
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    I'm really sorry, this seems like an absolute mess of a chapter and I am dearly hoping that proper translations set it straight, or that the second part of this is measurably better. Tonal whiplash everywhere, bizarre story turns, an insistence on keeping pivotal mysteries going up to the eleventh hour all while inexplicably glossing over a trip to Area 51, the place where this all began, and virtually everything they did to U-Olga and the utter incomprehensibility of her character as it now stands, it all seems really...off. Putting it gently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PossiblyATrout View Post
    I'm really sorry, this seems like an absolute mess of a chapter and I am dearly hoping that proper translations set it straight, or that the second part of this is measurably better. Tonal whiplash everywhere, bizarre story turns, an insistence on keeping pivotal mysteries going up to the eleventh hour all while inexplicably glossing over a trip to Area 51, the place where this all began, and virtually everything they did to U-Olga and the utter incomprehensibility of her character as it now stands, it all seems really...off. Putting it gently.
    Trust the plan.

    But yes, the chapter is immensely silly in a lot of ways.

    This might all just sound like weird cope, but as a depraved Moonlight/Lostroom addict, the first thing that came to mind about the weird tone, the adventures with Olga and Rasputin, and her pointed reaction about wanting to be included in saving the world... is that this entire Lostbelt exists essentially for Olga to have a fun adventure with her friends so she can experience 'saving the world'. This mirrors her desire to get along with (you) and Mash in Moonlight/Lostroom during the Restoration of Human Order. Everything is so weirdly perfectly setup for this to happen here. In her Case Files profile, Olga is listed as liking "adventure novels", as well. That is pretty much exactly the sort of narrative structure that LB7 has!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Trust the plan.

    But yes, the chapter is immensely silly in a lot of ways.

    This might all just sound like weird cope, but as a depraved Moonlight/Lostroom addict, the first thing that came to mind about the weird tone, the adventures with Olga and Rasputin, and her pointed reaction about wanting to be included in saving the world... is that this entire Lostbelt exists essentially for Olga to have a fun adventure with her friends so she can experience 'saving the world'. This mirrors her desire to get along with (you) and Mash in Moonlight/Lostroom during the Restoration of Human Order. Everything is so weirdly perfectly setup for this to happen here. In her Case Files profile, Olga is listed as liking "adventure novels", as well. That is pretty much exactly the sort of narrative structure that LB7 has!
    I think it is just Nasu messing with players so he can guilt trip them when they eventually have to put down Kotomine and Olga. Bonus points if Olga repeats her dying rant way back when Lev dump her into Chaldeas but this time also shedding tears as she is betrayed but who she though were friends.

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    So, the New Year Servant, will it be U-Olga, Rasputin or someone else?

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    So, the New Year Servant, will it be U-Olga, Rasputin or someone else?
    We'll find out in 4 days.

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    Beni Alter to continue the tradition of Asian Saber as New Year Servant.
    Seven Crypters, Seven Lostbelts, One New World

    A battle between Crypters, with the winning Lostbelt overtake the world.

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    My Richard copium is dead so yeah, sure, U Olga. Though it could also be a Beni Enma rerun to keep the foreigner-saber pattern

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    Everything about playable Olga, from the extra rarity to the 300% battery Skill to the AoE regular attack, screams not rollable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    Beni Alter to continue the tradition of Asian Saber as New Year Servant.
    Beni couldn't possibly just take up 2 New Years for herself... right?

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