Living underground with pathways between civilizations crossing into the underworld, all of which is apparently on top of ORT itself if its at the 9th layer. Sounds good enough to me.Originally Posted by rxrx
Living underground with pathways between civilizations crossing into the underworld, all of which is apparently on top of ORT itself if its at the 9th layer. Sounds good enough to me.
The worst part is that Nasu had a CG made for this.
EDIT:nvm, I can't read scenes apparently.
Last edited by Catastor; December 28th, 2022 at 03:28 AM.
Nope. The King Hassan in Arcade is not a Grand. In fact the only Grand in that battle is Noah and the rest are candidates.
I don't really thing Olga fought those people but sounds like some kind of simulation. Like the one of the crypters or the Lostroom.
Until further notice, I'm holding the view that Olga did fought the Grands but got her ass handed to her. This fits in with Mist Mirror laughing in her face at chapter 10 and ask if she is back for revenge. In addition, Olga likes to exaggerate and hide her mishaps, so her dream might just be a reverse of what really happened. She was trounced so badly that only her horn is unharmed.
Based on the translation I've read of Arcade's intro for him in the final battle, Proto Merlin calls him Grand Assassin still.
Far as whether she actually did beat them, hopefully part 2 will be here sooner than later. It would be odd for her to have won but Grand Berserker to still be alive, but then she would be the one to snatch defeat from victory.
There are three big important things to consider:
1. Saber Alter was given the skill Defender of Humanity in the Singularity F Memorial Quest
2. The player's Servants were buffed by Defender of Humanity in the Solomon Memorial Quest
3. U Olga Marie has the passive skill Defender of Humanity
Literally... what does it mean?
Crack theory:
The actual Alien God created Chaldea and aimed to artificially create Earth's AO that is under his commands so Earth can do nothing to defend itself when the Alien God fucks with her. In doing so, humanity will either be wiped out or turned into something else. Goetia tries to fight against this and decides to burn off humanity first.
Heck, maybe the germ of Quetz attached itself onto the sleeping ORT
Last edited by rxrx; December 28th, 2022 at 04:19 AM.
If we follow basic RPG conventions, along with that whole Excalibur doesn't see her as threat bit, she solidly isn't the endgame and will be an ally, but that's obvious.
If anything, I'm just waiting for the pin to drop for the actual endgame person, because as of now its mainly just having the story slowly get to what is precisely at fault for the state of the world, can it be reversed, and whether humanity has any place in this universe or is just a dead end. That last one has been questioned since FSN, so is this another answer to that in a pile of other answers, or the final answer?
Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z.
In before the cliche we are doing Marisbilly's dirty work and dooming Humanity with each success.
Its just been a very long phase 1 of his master plan, can't thwart that.
Anyways two theories on future summonings:
Camazotz won't be summonable as part of the LB7 releases, but will instead have his own event at some point later in the year. The Alters (sans maybe Beni Alter if she is New Years) will be released at this point as well. Protealter's main reason for fighting Chaldea is because it will also be a very silly event. May also be Halloween event for bonus silliness.
U-Olga will be 8th Anni servant, with 7.5 happening shortly beforehand. Kotomine will be released as part of 7.5 (presuming not New Years) and if Alter Ego Holmes is working for U-Olga instead of a different antagonist he will also come up at this point.
If Kirei remains loyal to U-Olga to the end and not some ploy to deceive her for someone else, and U-Olga stays good, wonder what Muramasa and Holmes' opinion to their boss' new policy if they come back(Limbo doesn't count coz screw him).
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So... Tez is the current number one suspect behind Olga vs Grands? That it's the same ability as one that allows him to show the event where ORT awakes?
Last edited by OnesFleetingGlory; December 28th, 2022 at 05:22 AM.
Seven Crypters, Seven Lostbelts, One New World
A battle between Crypters, with the winning Lostbelt overtake the world.
Just my opinion. Mist Mirror doesn't seem like a guy to not admit defeat.
I talked a little about this on my twitter, but there seems to have been some change in Olga's motivations from when she was summoned and when we talk to her in LB7. The amnesia is part of it, surely, but I wonder if there isn't something else at play. To illustrate:
*could be interpreted in multiple ways, but this seems to fit the motifs.
Kinda interesting contrast, isn't it? I talked a little about this in my theory, but it seems the Beast system 'corrupts' people's love for humanity into a wish for destruction. Perhaps Olga's attitude has to do with her Beasthood being stripped from her, hence her (?) Class.
Last edited by Petrikow; December 28th, 2022 at 05:49 AM.
I think someone is misdirecting Olga before she lost her memory. Wonder if it is Kotomine
Except there's some weird clash going on that, for me, is genuinely creating some weird sense of cognitive dissonance. Her personality is the problem. It's like a switch was flipped between Tunguska and here even without the amnesia, certainly if all the supposition is proven true. Kefka may have been a joker, but he was still treated by the story as an utterly serious problem. Nowhere in FFVI does the narrative suddenly pivot towards him being pathetic and everyone inside and outside the story regarding him as some ineffectual loser fated to fail no matter how he tries. He's a consistent threat and he stays that way. I also can't help but feel that context is being ignored - even Olga's earliest bout of praise-craving is cast in the light of her being woefully underprepared for her responsibilities and keenly aware of what was done to Mash and still trying her best, all capped off by her tearfully begging someone to save her as she dies. Sakura, likewise, is 'pitiful' in an extremely serious way and when she becomes a threat in HF, is treated by the story with the severity that her role demands. Similarly, U-Olga 'ran off' not because she was suffering from delusions of grandeur and wimped out or something like that, but because she flat-out did not consider the possibility that Kirsch would be opposed to her - she can see colors that mark moods, and all that - least of all because she chose him, being at least part AG, and all. She certainly wasn't goofy about it after the fact either.
Maybe I am looking in the wrong place. But no matter where I look and no matter how closely I scrutinise what came before, I do not see the same Olga that exists in LB7. Indeed, as you say, her earlier appearances were marked by pragmatism, undone only by moments of arrogance. If the story later goes on to seriously insist that, among other things, U-Olga simply believed that she fought and beat Grand Servants because transforming what used to be an apparent final boss into a worthless joke is funny despite her prior appearances, I suppose I just won't expect consistency.
The 'delusion' of beating the Grands aside, U-Olga in LB7 prior to her amnesia is still pragmatically dangerous, though? She personally intercepted Storm Border as soon as they arrived, and was about to crush them after the Holy Sword failed to harm her. If they weren't interrupted by Kuku, Chaldea was done for right there and then.
Seven Crypters, Seven Lostbelts, One New World
A battle between Crypters, with the winning Lostbelt overtake the world.
I kind of half get your point but also as someone's whose memories of Olympus are relatively fresh I've kind of always struggled to take the narratives attempts to talk about her powerfulness seriously because she's kind of just.... goofy. I think a criticism can be made in the narrative trying to have its cake and eat it too in regards to how we're meant to see her as a threat (I feel like someone like Ishtar strikes a better balance between someone who tends to buy into their own hype only to get bullied by the plot but who is still acknowledged to be a threat and knows how to show that off when she's pissed).
Like I do feel like it's been dialed up a bit more this chapter but from the moment she declared herself president of the earth and wore...what she's wearing it's kind of hard to call them going full loser on her a big jump even as someone who is so-so on the amnesia thing and even more so-so on her becoming Nasu's "girl" of the chapter
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Oh yeah where the fuck is Nemo?
Nemo is on the brink of death most of the time so far.
Oh so standard Nemo affair then
4 DAYS AGO
Translation note
The Boarder team is doing the post-crash damage assessment and control. They could confirm Mash and Fujimaru's life signals, but they only have enough energy for a 6-minute conversation with Mash. The Nemo series is functioning normally, but Captain is crashed and frozen. He fully synchronized with the ship and froze his Saint Graph. In this state, the ship didn't break apart in midair because Nemo's body couldn't break apart. Sion believes not even fixing the ship can bring Nemo back to life, but the Nemo Series disagrees, asserting that the indomitable Captain can bounce back from anything.
The team decides to inform Mash they will be noncommunicable for a while, but don't fill her in on the details to prevent her and Fujimaru from taking any rash decisions. Now they have to survive and fix the ship. That's when the adult version of Tezcatlipoca appears and introduces himself as an arms dealer. He came to see this ship that fell into his Lostbelt. It reminds him of Noah's ark. He likes what sees and asks Meuniere for the price. Meuniere says it's not for sale, which is the perfect answer for the merchant since it means he gets to take it by force.
Tezca shoots Meuniere in the heart, then in the head. Next, he calls in his Ocelomeh, commanded by the Ocelotl King Izcalli.
[ <-Kadoc battle using only Nitocris against the Izcalli and his Ocelomeh-> ]
Tezcatlipoca taunts Izcalli over his performance against Nitocris, but he insists he's just getting the hang of how to fight Servants and that he'll kill her soon because he must eventually become Tezcatlipoca. Nitocris taunts Izcalli that he's a measly human trying to fight against an incarnation of a god. Then a new girl appears, asking Nito if the measly incarnation of a god wants to fight against an actual god. The girl introduces herself as Tezcatlipoca's little sister Tlaloc. She readily defeats Nitocris, but doesn't finish her off, instead keeping Nito alive so Nito she can suffer a slow death. Tezcatlipoca says that if she won't take Nito's heart, he will, but Tlaloc warns her brother against unnecessarily coming in contact with the blood of other mythologies. Tezca tells his sister to shut up because she's just a city's local rain god and a Servant summoned by Tezca himself, but Tlaloc insists this would be objectively dumb because while she's still in her divine form, her dear brother Tezca is using a human's body. Tezca agrees, remembering how sick he got after he tasted Hindu flesh. He thanks Tlaloc, calls her a good sister, and shoots her.
He commands Izcalli to retreat leaving Tlaloc behind because some little bullets can't wound her. Tezcatlipoca takes Kadoc, da Vinci, and Sion as his new ship's engineers (as well as Nemo because he's the ship itself) and orders the men to kill the rest of the staff.
Last edited by Petrikow; December 28th, 2022 at 11:16 AM.
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