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    Speaking about the Jaguar troops taking Marine hostage battle, I still think it is stupid that using Mashu and Harbot is considered out, considering how Harbot is with us in narrative and thus shouldn't be count as summoned stands.

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    Chapter 7: Guns, war, bereavement

    Fujimaru's party is riding Wak Chan, who runs as fast as he can to get them to the Storm Boarder's landing site. Olga checks the Storm Boarder, notices there are more than the 12 people Fujimaru mentioned, including some corpses, and tries to go there ahead of the rest of the group. Fujimaru stops her because she can't meet Goredolf before he's properly informed. We get there and find all the dead bodies.

    [ <-Battle against the Ocelomeh who killed our staff-> ]

    While we were distracted fighting the Ocelomeh, Izcalli took Marine hostage at gunpoint. Izcalli introduces himself as the king of Mexico City and asks for Fujimaru's name in return.




    Izcalli introduces himself as the king of Mexico City and asks for Fujimaru's name in return, but Fujimaru refuses to say it. Izcalli is overjoyed to get no respect because he didn't want to respect us either and only asked their name because Tezcatlipoca's law demands it. If Fujimaru summons a Servant, Izcalli shoots Marine dead, but if the team wins the fight without a summon, he'll free him.

    [ <-Battle against Izcalli and his Ocelomeh. Using Mash is mandatory but using any other Servant is optional.-> ]

    If you don't solo Mash
    Izcalli keeps his promise and executes Marine. Marine apologizes for being always a burden and assures us that we don't need to tell Captain about him.


    If you solo with Mash
    The battle is far from over, there are still many Ocelomeh around to fight and Mash is severely damaged, but Fujimaru still can't summon because Izcalli has Marine. He wasn't expecting the hostage to work in the first place because he assumed the world destroyers didn't have any level of mercy. Marine is very frustrated about being viable as a hostage. He shouldn't be because he's replaceable, not very useful, and doesn't feel pain. So he decides to "do his job as a sailor" and gets himself shot so we can fight properly.





    Olga flashbacks to her previous conversations with Marine. Marine is very efficiently building a cottage while Olga comments on how valuable his presence is. Marine re-explains the Nemo Series mechanism, reinforcing how important it is that the Marines are completely replaceable. As long as Captain is alive, he can be revived. They're all copies, so that new Marine will be unarguably the one Marine she knows. As such, he says he wouldn't mind dying as he won't be truly dead or forgotten so long as there are other Marines alive. However, his brain wave color tells Olga that he was lying. They're not 100% identical. Our Marine was more of a crybaby than the group standard, which only became exacerbated after being separated from the group removed his need to keep a brave face in front of the other Marines. Marine was her first supporter since she lost everything but her name. They promised to save Earth together. He was weak but remarkably skilled in his recon, cleaning, construction, and transport roles. He loved Olga's sense of responsibility. He understood her as someone who hates being the only one doing all the work but doesn't run away from what she can and should do. So he promised he wouldn't let himself be a burden to her.

    In the present, Izcalli feels everyone's anger and comments about how normal humans are in the wrong for treating death with sorrow and rage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Izcalli
    For us, death is natural, as it is for all humans. If we didn't believe that, we'd never be able to kill anything. It is because all life has equal value that we are allowed to kill. [...]If we have compassion for our brethren, war is impossible. You people of Pan-Human History treat the mourning for your fallen as if it's expected, or as if it brings you salvation. With your level of intelligence, you'd think the same goes for the enemy side. And that's how you lose the ability to take lives. If all hearts contained compassion, war would stop. It wouldn't even start. But is that how it goes, wretched people of Pan-Human History? You kill despite being capable of empathy. You plunder the lives you revere. How do you resolve this contradiction? The problem with you people is apparent before morality even enters the picture. [...] An Ocelotl is nothing like you Pan-Human History apes. It is to Tezcatlipoca alone that we offer up our feelings. We rejoice at our god's joys. We grief at our god's sorrow. And we tremble at our god's wrath. That is all. No matter how many of our enemies or brethren die, the sin of anger and mourning is for a god to bear. That makes war justifiable. If not, the human way of life would be too ugly and sinful.
    After the speech is over, Olga swiftly annihilates Izcalli's entire squad of Ocelomeh.
    Quote Originally Posted by U-Olga Marie
    Pathetic. Are you done making your pitch, human? Then die! If you so wish to die by the hands of a god, I will comply!
    As Izcalli's body crumbles, he questions why he lost when he is on the morally correct side of the conflict. Olga then apologizes for that excessive violence so unbefitting of the one who rules the planet. The team discusses Marine's eventual return, showing that Olga is the only one aware that her crybaby Marine was lying about Captain being able to revive him specifically. She thinks about how absurd it was for someone with such a strong heart to call himself weak.




    After Izcalli is fully dealt with, the party enters the Boarder and sees the bloody scene of the tragedy. Tepeu feels like he should have died instead of Marine. The Marines on board confirm Fujimaru and Mash's presence and call for Goredolf. Meuniere aside, the staff is unharmed. Flashback to how they were saved.

    Despite the damage caused, Goredolf tries to negotiate peace with Izcalli, in an attempt to solve matters quickly so Meuniere could be carried to the medical bay as soon as possible. Izcalli is having none of this, so all Ocelomeh train their gun on the director. Since Goredolf is about to die, Koyanskaya summons her Light version to his location and outguns the Ocelotl firearms. All the blood and flesh in the hallways is Koyan's doing. By the way, she only knew Chaldea was in danger because, even after all this time, Goredolf was still carrying her lipstick around, having felt it impossible to throw away.

    Headcount in the ship: 8 staff members, Goredolf, 11 Marines, 4 other Nemos, Nitocris (almost dead), and Koyanskaya. 26 people. The 12 Olga counted before were 9 people and 3 Servants (counting the whole Nemo Series as 1 Servant). But after the whole situation with the one Marine, Olga can no longer see them as the same individual.

    Fujimaru is glad Goredolf is grouped with Koyanskaya because that makes it a lot easier for them to justify being grouped with Rasputin and Olga Marie. Goredolf takes the Rasputin part in stride, he always thought Rasputin was the only reasonable Apostle, but Olga is a bit too much for him to accept. Olga can see from Goredolf's mind color that he won't trust her and won't be her friend, so the Directors start arguing with each other. In a slip of the tongue, Goredolf says "who do you think knocked the ship down?" and Olga demands an answer because she wants to make the culprit pay. Since Goredolf refuses to tell, Kotomine proposes earning Chaldea's trust by healing Meuniere with the power of Bahloo the Moon, an Elemental he has as one of his High-Servant components. Goredolf finally accepts Olga into Chaldea since that's what it takes to get Meuniere saved.




    Meuniere is back to life. He asks Fujimaru and Mash not to blame themselves. The staff's creed ever since the Romani days was to allow Fujimaru to return to their original home one day, and he doesn't want them to come back depressed. That was what motivated the whole staff to keep on going. They were all people of different races, professions, and often opposing Clock Tower factions, but their shared pride in supporting Mash and Fujimaru brought them together.

    Goredolf sends Mash, Fujimaru, Habetrot, Tepeu, Olga, Kotomine, and Koyanskaya to rescue da Vinci, Sion, Kadoc, and Nemo in Mexico City. Wak Chan will stay behind as the Boarder's guard, as much as he'd prefer to go with Olga. Before leaving, Koyanskaya asks about Fou. No one knows where he is. Fujimaru thought he was with Goredolf and Goredolf thought he was with Fujimaru. This ruins Koyanskaya's plan to take some Fou fur, but she knows Fou well enough to figure out he's trying to keep away from ORT. Koyanskaya's guess is that Fou is chasing tumbleweeds on the surface and will only come back after the Lostbelt is destroyed.

    Meanwhile, Nemo Professor teaches Tepeu the spell necessary to reboot the frozen Captain. He's clearly still not over Marine's death, despite how the others do indeed seem identical to him. Olga already fulfilled her promise of bringing Fujimaru and Mash to the Boarder, but she can tell they still need her help, so as much as she dislikes Goredolf, she'll be joining the rescue mission. The Alien Priestess watches this decision take place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastor View Post
    But neither Koyan even wants to get married, you're either cycled between success/failure by Light or becoming Dark's pet at the cost of intelligence/freedom. Just let her go to space.
    I'm talkin OG Koyan here. Also never said anything about getting married.

    Edit: Also it really does show how quickly the fake out massacre goes in that summary, though Marine's seems pretty well done especially with how it affects Olga.
    Last edited by dualblade; December 28th, 2022 at 09:49 PM.

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    Oh I hadn't even thought about where Fou is in all this. That's very interesting. Does he pop up at all before the time lock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    [...]He understood her as someone who hates being the only one doing all the work but doesn't run from what she can and should do.
    It almost parallels to Eresh's character there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goredolf
    Who do you think knocked the ship down?
    So Goredolf didn't notice Luminary Kuku? Olga did attempt the deed, but she didn't get the chance to do it.



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    Wait if the Koyan summoned isn't Chaldea's then that makes a future scene with her comments to Beni strange, unless the Chaldea one's memories went to her Beast self like a pseudo Throne of Heroes.

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    RIP Marine. Gone, but not forgotten.

    Olga really revoked Izcalli's living privileges. We should be glad it ended at that, and not chucking black holes around.

    Goredolf says "who do you think knocked the ship down?"
    Technically not Olga.

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    Wow. they actully gave us option not to act like a little goody-two-shoes for once. Colour me impressed. I know this is basically MC's entire thing, but it really gets annoying sometimes.

    Also, Goredolf, maybe it isn't the best idea to antagonize the person who you think shot the ship down. Weren't you the one who brought Caenis to our side?

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    Gordy just scared that we won't have use for him now that President is back.

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    Do the Ocelomeh have any sort of connection with ocelots? Just wondering if I should be expecting a "you're pretty good" and spinning revolvers at some point.

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    I think the word ocelot is derived from ocelomeh, which means jaguar.

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    The irony of how the Jaguars are acting like the conquistadors in relation to the dinosaurs natives here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    I think the word ocelot is derived from ocelomeh, which means jaguar.
    The first part was actually something I was thinking may be the case, but was not sure. Cool fact to know!

    Speaking of Jaguars, surprised still no Taiga at all. Maybe she'll be the last light hearted part for part 2 before it goes complete serious.

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    my only nitpick for Ocelotl is none of them using revolver gun for obvious reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    The irony of how the Jaguars are acting like the conquistadors in relation to the dinosaurs natives here.
    Tepeu makes that comparison directly after we explain Cortes to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    Tepeu makes that comparison directly after we explain Cortes to him.
    I wonder if the current king of the Jaguars is actually Moctezuma II, deciding to try something else considered how he failed in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    my only nitpick for Ocelotl is none of them using revolver gun for obvious reference.
    Lasengle couldn't animate idle sprites revolving guns, please understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dualblade View Post
    The first part was actually something I was thinking may be the case, but was not sure. Cool fact to know!

    Speaking of Jaguars, surprised still no Taiga at all. Maybe she'll be the last light hearted part for part 2 before it goes complete serious.
    She's here in spirit.




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    Fair enough I suppose.

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