Honkai: Star Rail

[Lily Emilio]

Your response is still nonsensical because it's completely irrelevant, my comment was just about how I can feel certain way about certain stuff regardless of whether I think it's significantly good or bad, whether other people do and don't ship it means fuck all and imagine thinking I would give a shit even if it was the most popular pairing, sure as hell didn't make star rail Bronya x Seele good in my eyes.

My response is also to show how other people can feel different about it, since the shipping and dynamics are purely fan assumptions and not necessarily the intention. The two opinions worth the same value. You can choose to not care about theirs, and I also can choose to not care about yours. Nothing difficult to grasp here.

Yes, I absolutely despise good people, I hope all the good characters in star rail and Genshin all evaporate into dust, never to be seen again. The Neuvillette I rolled for? It was the work him raggard in the desert for eternity. Nahida? Truly her leaving the the cage was a mistake, who let this chick think she could be free? Dust to Xiao, ashes to Thoma, screw them all. (This is sarcasm, just btw). Please learn the difference between character indifference and hate.

So explain to me why making a character patriotic makes them boring now? Literally all those chars you've listed also cared a lot for their nation and their people. But suddenly Arlecchino who is born in Fontaine wanting to save her homeland is no go just because she works for the Fatui?

I don't think they changed her to be boring (as I once again didn't even really think of her at all until Fontaine came out), I think this was always the plan. I just think the plan is boring so far, looking forward to the plan not being boring later maybe!

Well then pick a better choice of word. The whole "MHY defang the evil mommy to sell her" has been going on for awhile since she turned out to actually be a better person than some ppl thought she would be.

Another issue I have with MHY, especially in Star Rail is how they expect you to 'get' the dynamics of star characters like Bronya and Seele.

It is bait for old fans, nothing more. You can literally see similar changes in HI3rd when Seele and Dark Seele got separated and forced to work with different characters, with no Bronya around. Seele has very friendly dynamic with Susannah, bond by their lack of confidence, while Dark Seele has a Zoro x Sanji rivalry with Herrscher of Sentience. Their characters suddenly improved a lot. So it's not like they can't do it, they just don't do it too often. It's the same problem with some servants in FGO whose character is fixed into their relationship with another servant (if u know, u know) and in the rare cases they get to do things on their own they improved, even if just a bit.

[mami-kouga]

My response is also to show how other people can feel different about it, since the shipping and dynamics are purely fan assumptions and not necessarily the intention. The two opinions worth the same value. You can choose to not care about theirs, and I also can choose to not care about yours. Nothing difficult to grasp here.

And yet it remains comically, completely irrelevant. You're talking about nonsense that has nothing to actually do with why I even mentioned that because you've decided to assign a completely different meaning to it. Kind of ironic considering what this whole back and forth has been about.

So explain to me why making a character patriotic makes them boring now? Literally all those chars you've listed also cared a lot for their nation and their people. But suddenly Arlecchino who is born in Fontaine wanting to save her homeland is no go just because she works for the Fatui?

You have a habit of hyperfocusing on very specific points and missing that it's a part of a whole, do you know that? I think the combinations of how pleasant she is ended up making me go from vaguely curious to how they'd handle her to "Ah, there's the palpable for players parts I guess, I'll turn my attention to the other new arrivals", there's nothing about her I feel drawn to. Also I don't particularly care about any of those characters being attached to their homelands, it's honestly never come to mind when I think about my affection towards them.

[Lily Emilio]

And yet it remains comically, completely irrelevant. You're talking about nonsense that has nothing to actually do with why I even mentioned that because you've decided to assign a completely different meaning to it. Kind of ironic considering what this whole back and forth has been about.

It is completely relevant to what I was saying, about you letting your opinions, headcanons and expectations getting to your assumptions of things the writers never did. The writers never ship Navia and Clorinde nor Clorinde and Wrio like the other shippers. You are the one who inserted that into your text wall and I replied to it. You can keep trying to run from it, but there is no smoke without fire. If you didn't insert that completely irrelevant opinion about yuri ship then I wouldn't response. And if it has a different 5head super deep meaning like what you keep claiming I didn't get it, then I still don't see any of it at all. Stop trying to go back to it if you don't want me to keep replying to it.

You have a habit of hyperfocusing on very specific points and missing that it's a part of a whole, do you know that?

Because it is listed by you yourself as one of the proof that they defang her character and make her more approvable. If you didn't have any problems with it, you should not have said anything about it in the first place.

I think the combinations of how pleasant she is ended up making me go from vaguely curious to how they'd handle her to "Ah, there's the palpable for players parts I guess, I'll turn my attention to the other new arrivals", there's nothing about her I feel drawn to. Also I don't particularly care about any of those characters being attached to their homelands, it's honestly never come to mind when I think about my affection towards them.

Kinda weird assumption of her character as a whole since according to your beloved Scaramussy, he is disgusted by Arlecchino "fake good guy" performance and warned about her. Granted the brat is biased and emotionally jaded as fuck, but there has to be some truth to what he is claiming. But nope, he's probably wrong I guess cuz Arlecchino is being suspiciously nice to the player. Childe is wrong too, since he is fully convinced Arlecchino would betray the Cryo Archon in a heartbeat. If none of those gives you any idea that she is most likely putting up an act (heck she's been doing that the whole time with her moves) for her own unknown agenda, then idk, accept her as the uwu mommy with a side of crazy for now I guess.

[mami-kouga]

All that being said I've reached and overreached my threshold where my own mental strength can carry my ability to continue this back and forth (as in, I'm starting to actually be physically ill and I need to sleep) so if you mention anything after I probably won't be able to respond. Maybe we'll pick this up again, once again, when part 3 of the archon quest comes out (actually no we won't), anyway good night

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Wow talk about timing! Yeah I'm not engaging anymore in this

[Lily Emilio]

Huh we're close in timezone I guess. I'm about to sleep too lmao. Good night I guess.

[Lily Emilio]

Now there is even a bigger version of the IPC that spans across bubble universes showing up in the HI3rd timeline. They also have agents naming after minerals/gems (i.e Crystal). Tho in this case they employ monsters, honkai beasts and a variation of species from different bubble universes so unfortunately no Topaz. Guess there is always a bigger capitalist fish in the sea (of Quanta) lol.


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Hopefully they don't show up in HSR, because they would instantly absorb the IPC into their multiversal corporation.

[Lily Emilio]

https://old.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarR...d_topaz_dirty/

Topass is no more. The censorship strikes again. F for those who rolled her for her assets.

Good thing I didn't roll.

[M@koto Kisaragi]

https://old.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarR...d_topaz_dirty/

Topass is no more. The censorship strikes again. F for those who rolled her for her assets.

Good thing I didn't roll.

I can't opened reddit, it's blocked here lel, what is it?

[Lily Emilio]

I can't opened reddit, it's blocked here lel, what is it?

They reduced the size of her ass. It is quite flat now. But her tits are seemingly still fine, so she didn't get the Rosaria treatment (yet).

[M@koto Kisaragi]

They reduced the size of her ass. It is quite flat now. But her tits are seemingly still fine, so she didn't get the Rosaria treatment (yet).

I seen it and ngl it's.....not quite flat as you said lel
Also Kafka doesn't get any Rosaria treatment so Topass will be fine as well beside this one

The real problem is Black Swan, now that's CCP level of cencorship hammer awaiting there lmao

[rxrx]

CCP censorship is just a poor excuse when Azur Lane and Nikki can get away with lots of stuff. MHY just doesn't want to hear crap from the female fanbase that loves to complain that selling their figure is an insult to the female community.

[Lily Emilio]

I seen it and ngl it's.....not quite flat as you said lel
Also Kafka doesn't get any Rosaria treatment so Topass will be fine as well beside this one

Maybe not super flat but it is still reduced (just by visual I'd say ranging from 10-20% nerfed) compare to the prev, which basically is false advertisment if you care about the asset.

It's not a big deal to me cuz I play on my tiny phone screen and wouldn't notice most differences anw, tho I already didn't plan to get her because of how her animations involving too much of the trotter. I would not be able to handle seeing that little shit rolling again and again everytime it follows up. Plus I don't have any use for more damage cuz I already clear all contents with my current roster relatively easy.

The real problem is Black Swan, now that's CCP level of cencorship hammer awaiting there lmao

Nah she'll be fine since this exists:

Spoiler:

[rxrx]

Nice example there. Not to forget Luna Teri and Big Bronya are also well stacked

[M@koto Kisaragi]

Maybe not super flat but it is still reduced (just by visual I'd say ranging from 10-20% nerfed) compare to the prev, which basically is false advertisment if you care about the asset.

yeah but she's still has the biggest ass in the game even with the nerf, with Kafka come to the second so in the end nothing much of big deal

Nah she'll be fine since this exists:

Spoiler:

We could argue that HI3rd is way less popular than Genshin and HSR which is why they can keep Aponia and the others who are way to sex appeal lel
But i see what did you want to say here lel, while it's early but HSR is way more showing in sex appeal compared to Genshin (cencorship and lack of very meaningful design) which make me feels ironic since nowadays i only care for Genshin because of the pure porn and hentai lmao

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Nice example there. Not to forget Luna Teri and Big Bronya are also well stacked

It's a bummer that HSR bronya isn't the same as HI3rd Adult Bronya in the design, stil good nonetheless lel

[M@koto Kisaragi]

Anyway, Guinaifen make the DoTs plays even more bullshit lmao

Also Himeko + Topass team are absolutely shredding right now

[Lily Emilio]

yeah but she's still has the biggest ass in the game even with the nerf, with Kafka come to the second so in the end nothing much of big deal

Cocolia still takes the cake. They won't let you have the win for playable chars.

We could argue that HI3rd is way less popular than Genshin and HSR which is why they can keep Aponia and the others who are way to sex appeal lel
But i see what did you want to say here lel, while it's early but HSR is way more showing in sex appeal compared to Genshin (cencorship and lack of very meaningful design) which make me feels ironic since nowadays i only care for Genshin because of the pure porn and hentai lmao

HI3rd might not be too popular in the west but is extremely popular in CN and SEA region, plus it is the favorite child of MHY so they pour more effort into it than any other games, they are less happy to censore their babygirls there and will try to sneak in the fanservice as much as they can (Kiana HoFi suit even has the same butt window like Topaz but it is very hard to spot unless you let pause at the correct angles). But they are slowly moving to use longer panties and show less cleavage in more modern designs of it (part 2 designs are more inline with HSR designs which got a lot of people complained about them chickening out). Aponia is released way before HSR anyways so rxrx's Luna example (just released yesterday as the FIRST and only canon waifu of the player) is better, since they even give her clothes damage mechanic

Spoiler:

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As for Genshin, the main reason they had to be safe is because the game itself was chosen by the CCP to be a cultural export game after the whole Chinese Opera representation they did with Yunjin. Kinda unexpectedly shoot themselves in the foot there since they now have to be much more careful with all of their designs and even writing to not pose any risk. Yae Miko used to have pantsu basically looking like what Aponia is wearing since her first appearance, same for Ayaka having actual pantsu in beta, but all got changed into ugly granny diapers later as well.

It's a bummer that HSR bronya isn't the same as HI3rd Adult Bronya in the design, stil good nonetheless lel

HSR Bronya looks like she's still in her 20s while APHO Bronya is around 25s so it's the year gaps I guess. Acheron design OTOH looks like APHO Mei + Raiden Shogun so she should be much closer.

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Anyway, Guinaifen make the DoTs plays even more bullshit lmao

Also Himeko + Topass team are absolutely shredding right now

Gui can replace Sampo and Luka, that is the biggest plus. But Kafka top team is still solo carry so I'll prob just raise Gui to lv60 for the tickets if I get het lol. DoT is still missing the key buff that is the new relic set next patch, which going by the calcs should bring dot Kafka teams much closer to her solo carry build. Himeko and Jing Yuan will also get buffed with the follow-up set (sadly it is not as great for Clara and Topaz).

[M@koto Kisaragi]

Cocolia still takes the cake. They won't let you have the win for playable chars.

in the end we know that Svarog has the biggest assets of all :moaiemoji:

HSR Bronya looks like she's still in her 20s while APHO Bronya is around 25s so it's the year gaps I guess. Acheron design OTOH looks like APHO Mei + Raiden Shogun so she should be much closer.

Tha.... That mean HI3rd Adult Bronya is counted as a MILF Judgement Nut Never End Intensifies
And speaking of Acheron, i wonder how well she will turned out to in gameplay, might not be able to contest with Kafka but still likely going to be strong and at least above Jing Yuan, rip Serval once again tho lel

[Lily Emilio]

They also did not show APHO Seele yet so expect her to be looking older and more mature than HSR Seele too (and bigger booba becuz that's the only possible way to go yup). Fu Hua forever stuck with B cup tho, cursed Garuda genes. Tho HI3rd Seele has light and dark ver while HSR is a mix of both (but lean more towards Dark) so perhaps we will get an uwu Seele later in HSR who, hopefully, won't be tied to another Bronya this time.

And speaking of Acheron, i wonder how well she will turned out to in gameplay, might not be able to contest with Kafka but still likely going to be strong and at least above Jing Yuan, rip Serval once again tho lel

Spoiler:

Just by the virtue of being Mei expy alone, I am expecting her to be absolutely cracked lol. Her placeholder kit makes a premium debuff support as, if the leaks are correct, an Emanator of Nihility. She offers perma debuff uptime on the whole enemy party that boosts your team dmg, which is extremely useful for chars who take a lot of turns and use up buffs (Harmony chars are less valuable teammates for them) i.e Hunt chars like Topaz, Seele and Bronya synergistic chars i.e Blade, Jingliu. Can even work with Daniel in place of Pela since she doesn't even need to use skill to apply debuff. Making her a debuff support than trying to compete with other lightning dps chars while also going to do single target dmg is good choice, raise her value while keeping the others relevant. Also her technique instantly kill enemies of lower level is absolutely broken, especially if it can work in lower floor MoC and the SU early floors, it will save up so much time.

But things will change drastically between early placeholder kit and release since MHY gathers data and make changes accordingly anyways. so we have no clue lol. Fu Xuan was worse than Fire MC with her early kit, but got buffed to heaven. Kafka was pretty restrictive in the beta but became much more versatile. Jingliu was only around Jing Yuan level in the pre-beta, but got buffed to being the best dps in the game so far. Topaz was just a Hunt char who does follow up dmg in her placeholder kit but is now a very powerful FUA support. Huohuo was basically "lmao skip" healer in her placeholder kit, and now she is looking to powercreep every existing healers (Luocha included, I guess his banner sales upset them a lot). So yeah, we never know what they'll cook.

[M@koto Kisaragi]

Oh, i thought Acheron will be an another dps, guess not
As for HuoHuo, to be fair it's kinda hard to see her as a powercreep as she get a nerf from the beta, but she's still helluva strong

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Speaking of expy, Mei has the most amount of expy on HSR so far, beside Acheron you have Ruan Mei as well, doesn't mention an actual HSR Mei based from the leaks

[Lily Emilio]

Oh, i thought Acheron will be an another dps, guess not
As for HuoHuo, to be fair it's kinda hard to see her as a powercreep as she get a nerf from the beta, but she's still helluva strong

Huohuo didn't get any meaningful nerf other than one stat from her BiS cone. She kept getting buffs again and again each beta weeks while Argenti stays bottom and Hanya got nerfed from being too cracked for Daniel into being sidegrade, which is still good for her but way less required. Huohuo is now:

- The best cleanser in the game
- Heals the most in the game
- Doubles as a Harmony for speedrun clears
- Shits on Bailu with E2 (like Fu Xuan)
- Became the perfect healer for Kafka and her DoT comps despite being originally designed to help Argenti, even more if you have her E1.

The only thing Luocha has over her are being more SP positive (which is only mostly relevant for SP hoggers like Daniel) and has a full enemy team buff removal (which unfortunately rarely even relevant since most enemies these days have unremovable buff mechanic). There is literally no reason to get him on rerun anymore. I get why they are doing this because the game just launched on PS5 and getting Huohuo is perfect choice for those new players, plus it is hard to sell supports unless they are cracked.

Speaking of expy, Mei has the most amount of expy on HSR so far, beside Acheron you have Ruan Mei as well, doesn't mention an actual HSR Mei based from the leaks

Ruan Mei isn't Mei expy, that's a xianzhou lady, her name is CN (or in Vietnamese she would be called Nguyễn Mai, which is actually a pretty cute name). If you go by CN then Mei would be Yayi instead.