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    Seems like the same issues they got with HSR at launch where the game defaults your settings to unreasonable level. I think they'll have to change it to default as compatibility mode like Genshin and HSR, because there is no way your device capable of running games with steeper requirements failing to run ZZZ lol.

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    I'll be honest, I wasn't all that interested in trying ZZZ at first but then Wuwa keeps on crashing constantly, the devs went radio silence about it after the first week and then rushed the entire 1.0 version which, with the crashings, I couldn't play much off (I got extremely lucky on actually getting Jiyan at least) and now the 1.1ver. didn't solve any issue but created others like the camera issue. So I said whatever I'll give ZZZ a try and maybe retry Wuwa on a couple months or a year to see if the issues got solved, and then ZZZ also goes unplayable...
    I know is to be expected for this games to have issues at launch but it ain't any less discouraging nonetheless.

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    ZZZ is so funny, because despite it being marketed as an "action game" it's the hoyo game with the most streamlined and babified gameplay possible. It also somehow has the highest file size and system requirement despite having much less content on launch compared to even HSR. It's all style but no substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    I'll be honest, I wasn't all that interested in trying ZZZ at first but then Wuwa keeps on crashing constantly, the devs went radio silence about it after the first week and then rushed the entire 1.0 version which, with the crashings, I couldn't play much off (I got extremely lucky on actually getting Jiyan at least) and now the 1.1ver. didn't solve any issue but created others like the camera issue. So I said whatever I'll give ZZZ a try and maybe retry Wuwa on a couple months or a year to see if the issues got solved, and then ZZZ also goes unplayable...
    I know is to be expected for this games to have issues at launch but it ain't any less discouraging nonetheless.
    Wuwa issues is more or less because of them using Unreal Engine, which is the worst move they could have done. Its just super unoptimized to develope multi-platform gacha games where you also have to take into account mobile devices specs.

    ZZZ case is a bit weird since Hoyo had extensive experience in using Unity for their games, and it really reminds me of Honkai Impact 3rd part 2 disastrous update that they had to give out a bunch of free pulls for compensation.

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    ZZZ is so funny, because despite it being marketed as an "action game" it's the hoyo game with the most streamlined and babified gameplay possible. It also somehow has the highest file size and system requirement despite having much less content on launch compared to even HSR. It's all style but no substance.
    The high game size is precisely due to the massive amount of stylized cutscenes, comics and voices. Out of all Hoyo games it probably has the most style, with the most dynamic character models and menus (mostly learnt and improved from Honkai Impact 3rd) and it could even pass as a console fighting game (which is funny becuz they borrowed a lot from fighting games and literally planned to have a collab with Street Fighter).

    The problem turns out to be that because they focused too much on the stylized storytelling (the story itself isn't something new either), they fumbled hard on the gameplay. ZZZ combat looks super easy early on but that is to be expected from their design these days, tho HSR took the cake for having the hardest early game for casuals. I've seen so many casuals struggle to even get through the early Herta Space Station boss, and get their asses beaten in Belobog, which was why hoyo nerfed the early mobs by quite a bit. They probably overcorrected it for ZZZ since from the footages I saw it feels like a cakewalk. The TV puzzle is designed to be storytelling but it ended up annoyed ppl so much nobody realized that it is being used to tell the story. And so far the only sort of challenge you get in the endgame is that one boss challenge mode, which I heard to be pretty hard.

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    Finally managed to 80K the current PF cycle. Took quite a few tries due to E0 Acheron and Aventurine RNG shenanigans, and because I forgot Himeko was missing one of her Relics. If I manage to pull for Jade, I might never need to tryhard Pure Fiction ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    Finally managed to 80K the current PF cycle. Took quite a few tries due to E0 Acheron and Aventurine RNG shenanigans, and because I forgot Himeko was missing one of her Relics. If I manage to pull for Jade, I might never need to tryhard Pure Fiction ever again.
    Honestly you should get Yunli instead of Jade. From the beta footages she is absurd in all 3 endgame modes and so ridiculously strong in PF that she can duo it with just Huo Huo.

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    I will never forgive them for powercreeping Clara and specifically making her impossible to use this PF cycle because of the meme enemies that doesn't proc her counter.

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    Jade is good just for the fact that she can make my Blade marginally less useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    I will never forgive them for powercreeping Clara and specifically making her impossible to use this PF cycle because of the meme enemies that doesn't proc her counter.
    Yet they can proc Yunli's. It's all part of the plan!

    Jade is good just for the fact that she can make my Blade marginally less useless.
    Honestly Blade is beyond saving rn, can't even remember the last time I used him anymore. And from what I've seen in beta Jade is still better off just be solo carry or be Herta/Himeko partner instead, heck you can even pair her with any aoe chars such as Argenti (tho dude also became obsolete with Yunli stolen his ult, she straight up powercrept 2 Phys dps at once) or Serval and they'd perform just as good if not better than Blade.

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    Jade is probably the least exciting character they've released so far. Minimum story participation, underwhelming gameplay niche, somewhat repulsive personality. It's pretty hard to justify pulling for her lol. At least Topaz and Argenti got their own dedicated filler patch.

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    It's actually pretty crazy how little spotlight Jade got in contrast to Firefly...

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    Finally. Time to save for her. I am desperately needing a Wind dps since I don't have Black Swan and Blade is beyond saving now.

    Glad that each Xianzhou ship will have different clothing design for their characters like I expected. She looks pretty different in style to Jing Yuan as a General too.

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    Annnndd we are back to Luofu dress code, just as I expected.

    RIP Gallagher for real.

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    That is literally just Tingyun's clothing...

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    Tingyun's clothes + Sparkle's face + Sushang's hair + Gallagher's kit


    What the hell is this character

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    That is literally just Tingyun's clothing...

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    Tingyun's clothes + Sparkle's face + Sushang's hair + Gallagher's kit


    What the hell is this character
    She is alt of Nuwa in HI3rd. They didn't even bother to hide that fact since Dan Zhu was Nuwa's name.

    Tho they took away her snek tail (because HSR lore dictates that only dragon Elders have tail)

    As for the Sparkle's face, well lol:

    Some actually thought Sparkle is Nuwa alt back when her myriad celestia came out because of this.

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    And yea she has to have Luofu dress code, pretty unfortunate considering her original design in HI3rd looks better.

    What a downgrade from the refreshing designs of the 3 previous new Xianzhou chars.

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    I probably only need the Acheron ult charge slave out of all the new units. Maybe grab Sparkle on her rerun too.

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    God why can't this game just do 2 planets per version instead of having 70% filler.

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    Going by the hype Feixiao got she's probably going to be busted, just the question of how far she can powercreep cuz right now at E0S1 Yunli can match both Acheron and Firefly E0S1, which is absolutely crazy considering she just coming out of nowhere one day.

    I will skip the foxboi since my Acheron is E3 and thus all of the ult charge benefits he brings becomes useless. He is only an improvement for E0 Acheron tho just a sidegrade to Gepard + Trend LC unless u get his signature LC cuz he only has DoT LC options left. Ideally I would suggest skipping him and go for Acheron E2, but who knows when she reruns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    God why can't this game just do 2 planets per version instead of having 70% filler.
    Well we technically have 2 "planets" with ppl from 2 other Xianzhou ships showing up for the second half of the version. Looks like they are setting up for the Xianzhou generals to gather for whenever that court trial of Luocha and Jingliu happens, which will finally move the Xianzhou plot towards the war of Aeons. There's also the matter of Tingyun return they talked about, and they still have to release Sunday before we move on.

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    New 4* husbando, let's go!!!

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    Adult Razor with a big razor aintnoway.

    Looks like in contrast to Jing Yuan method on the Luofu, Feixiao favors swift and efficient methods. Both her and assassins working for her are Hunt and focuses on efficiency, no wonder the Yaoqing wiped out 5 Abundance factions within just 1 year.

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    I wonder which male model the granpa silhouette teased character is going to use, if at all playable.

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    My guess is a reskin of the special model they made for Old Oti on the Penacony epilogue.
    My question is if a model like that can even have walking animation, not even in the checking out world quest Oti walked, he was always sitting in the same position, only moving his upper body.

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    Adult Razor with a big razor aintnoway.
    Ngl, my first impression when looking at him was Wise, the male MC of ZZZ. Maybe 'cause dude is just fresh in my memory with the recent release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamera View Post
    I wonder which male model the granpa silhouette teased character is going to use, if at all playable.
    Leaks say he’s a special NPC

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