My first attempt at soloing the highest difficulty of DU with Yunli went a little bit too well lol
My first attempt at soloing the highest difficulty of DU with Yunli went a little bit too well lol
Even at a lower lvl she's already destroying all contents for my friend's new account, by herself solo. He regrets going for Firefly last patch lol.
Eh. She's good at miscellaneous SU/DU content, but for MoC and PF, Yunli is literally just a Clara 2.0, especially with current enemies that cucks Counter-type unit with indirect DoT attacks and self-buffs, which means that she is very situational unit at best. Sure, her Ult can trigger without enemy attacking, but it's a much weaker version and feels like wasted energy.
Nah, she's cracked in all modes. Whoever claims she is just slight upgrade over Clara either has massive skill issues or have no idea how to abuse her guaranteed pity Culls in alteration with the accurate Culls. You can use the Slash intentionally to set up for the Cull going from wave 1 to wave 2 for example, or to dunk on the passive enemies.Originally Posted by Kamera
If you remove the eidolons and her signature LC here she'll still clear those so-called counter-cucks enemies in sub 1-3 cycles.
In PF she can literally duo clear with a Huo Huo, or add a Sparkle for 3-char clear 40k score. In AS she can also abuse the pity Culls since the free energy automatically gives 1 Slash + 1 Cull in a row.
And the next patch boss who is super aggressive will enable her to be even more ridiculous. In the beta people are shocked to see how she can match Feixiao performance and completely walk over that boss. That boss also is designed to nerf break dps by giving him 1.5x higher toughness than Argenti, 2.7mil HP and super fast speed.
The main reason you probably feel she's slow is because you probably have none of her key supports such as Huo Huo and Robin to capitalize on the bonkers energy recharge. Those two combine with Tingyun allows her to be the strongest character running with sustain atm, outpacing the previous one being Firefly comp.
In this state of the game, you really need to have the limited Harmony like Ruan Mei and Robin to unlock the full power of a char. Firefly feels like shit without Ruan Mei, FUAs feels so slow without Robin. Only Hypercarry can still use Bronya over Sparkle, tho you'll have to build Bronya 160+ spd to offset the SP issues.
Last edited by Lily Emilio; August 3rd, 2024 at 10:24 AM.
Well, this AS cycle is certainly different. It's much harder to put the boss on the break state, and the HP is inflated hard.
Cleared new AS with Boothill first half and Acheron 2nd half, pretty easy 6.9k score. There are several other team options and I could get it done better but it was 3 am and I just want to sweep it to go to bed.
There are several options you can use if you don't have the units they are trying to sell, namely Yunli, who destroys both halves using the FUA/Counter blessing without any issues. First half is easily cleared by Boothill, DHIL or Hunt M7, all using there respective comps and the Basic atk blessing. Boothill and Hunt M7 running the Super Break comp clears just fine, be sure to change M7's Shifu to Gallagher when attacking the fire weak mob and select HMC for the Img weak mob since she gains double break efficiency when selecting supports as Shifu, and she can break any element as long as it matches Shifu element. She is unironically better than Xueyi now and is going to also be good for Feixiao later. Crazy.
Second half Acheron still clears but since this time there is no buffs for her she might be a bit slow. Jingliu is a very solid option to abuse the Skill cdmg blessing.
If you stuck on the 2nd half due to shield breaking, pay attention to the IMG and QUA debuffs they put on you and the corresponding mobs. Just use the char that has QUA debuff to attack the mob with QUA marking and IMG for IMG.
I don't know, Yunli doesn't feel as strong as advertised without her LC and without Robin. I'll try again maybe after leveling Hunt March's traces.
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In any case I barely cleared it with Himeko and Acheron teams.
People been clearing using Yunli without neither her LC nor Robin so idk what you're talking about.
These are all E0S0 clears. If you don't have Huo Huo use Lynx (use Quid Pro Quo LC), her aggro boost is the same as Yunli LC's aggro. Without the aggro factor, the difference between that LC and Herta shop Aeon LC is actually VERY small (about less than 10% or even less than 5% depends on team), because of how the stats in the LC aren't "rare" (such as dmg vulnerability, def ignore, res pen are rarer) that makes you saturate with it.
Don't have Sparkle? Use Bronya, Hunt M7 to support and select her as Shifu (build her crit in this case, she's very versatile).
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Also fun fact you can actually use her with the three 4 stars on her banner as well. I saw ppl clearing with those. Weaker sure, but still doable. Tho I definitely would prioritize pairing with Tingyun over every other.
Last edited by Lily Emilio; August 5th, 2024 at 02:16 PM.
That's still a limited harmony I don't have so
Your next best bet is Ruan Mei, since if you're using Acheron team for 2nd half (Yunli performs better on 1st half compare to 2nd).
Otherwise just use Tingyun + M7 or Tingyun + Topaz.
Yeah, I figured that Yunli could just replace Himeko for the cope super break team. Works pretty well, but I still couldn't manage to get close to 7000 points since the Acheron team is so bricked. The doomsday beast boss is a terribly annoying RNG fest HP sponge that can heal and revive, fuck that.
Yeah even with E3S1 Acheron I could get 6957 only and I didn't care enough. Currently testing M7 in there a bit and she's slower than Boothill obviously, but still clears within the 3 star range.
For the doomsday beast you should try to kill both hands first then kill the middle core, because that is what continues to heal and revive it. Break the hands accordingly with the QUA and IMG marked chars. Here's a 4* only run detailing the mechanics of these bosses:
Edit: After a dozen retries I managed to reach 7k. Could have added like 100 more pts to it if I time my action advances better but ehhh whatever.
Last edited by Lily Emilio; August 6th, 2024 at 11:08 AM.
After tryharding a bit more managed to get it to 7158 pts.
Giving Gallagher 160 spd is a great boost. The dude keeps spamming attacks it's ridiculous.
Okay, I played this part today and took the exact same screenshot before I spotted this post. My god.What is this WuWa-tier dialogue... I really dislike whoever they assigned to write the Luofu chapters.
Xianzhou Luofu is one of the most awful case of one chapter having bloated importance and having too much "worldbuilding" in contrast to the rest of the setting, in addition to being the most shilled and recurring, on top of having disproportionate amount of characters compared to other factions. I don't know whose bright idea is it to forcefully shove down xianxia slop onto a space fantasy sci-fi story without regards of thematic coherence and genre consistency. I just hope I can stomach 3 more patches of this before getting onto the next planet and the FSN collab.
They are not the most recurring, it's the IPC. The IPC is literally the strongest faction in the entire HSR universe to the point their founder Fleming is considered to be the one only secondary to Aeons in influence, and they have been actively involved in every single conflicts by far without any signs of stopping to where Oswaldo is about to be the next target that even the Xianzhou Alliance viewed him as very high threat level on par with Lord Ravagers. In fact they have hands and members in other subfactions including Xianzhou. Playable or not, they still have the most amount of characters currently (playable + unreleased + NPCs) spreading around the whole game.
Concept-wise I think the whole Xianzhou setting is pretty decent. It's not xianxia but anti-xianxia where instead of aiming for immortality they got the monkey's paw from wishing it from a cosmic entity, and now desperately trying to be freed from that curse. Even the wuxia tropes of secret manuals, secret elixirs and other shortcuts to power in the M7 training arc was also mocked. Each of the ship having different cursed Yaoshi gifts also make them different from each other. Like Yaoqing has the crimson moon that turned the borisins into abominations and foxians got into the mess leading to Hoolay being imprisoned but cannot be killed. Zhuming has the heliobi king being used as a pseudo sun...etc. So overall it still fits with the theme of Aeons influencing worlds and factions in very drastic ways, and I don't think that is inherently problematic.
The real problem? They chose the most boring ship to be the main introduction and recurring location with too much emphasis on political and business fighting (Penacony epilogue has this issue too I was so bored out of it up until the ending scenes at the Nameless graves and Acheron farewell, fuck space politics and stock market who tf cares). The Luofu General is old and bored out of his mind he's always just sleeping and chilling for a reason, there's nothing interesting on Luofu. Meanwhile Feixiao going around overworking genociding furries, Huaiyan training the youth and do multiple things at once. The High-Cloud Quintet aka the only interesting part of Luofu could have been the main focus due to literally every single surviving member of the group meeting on Luofu but nope it got shoved into companion missions with a cop out haha wait till Otto Apocalypse meets Marshal Hua. And now they have to set up the alliance's involvement in the upcoming war of Aeons so they have to tie it back to the Luofu situation with "haha we don't trust u midyuan maybe you made all that shit up we gotta investigate then we can confirm that we're getting to war vs Nanook and Yaoshi at the same time" despite the fact that they can just use their super space computer prediction and other bullshit techs they have to know everything. Oh and the Marshal plus Feixiao and Huaiyan trust u midyuan but the other clowns don't so plz understand.
I just hope they move quick and introduce all of the remaining Arbiter-Generals and Marshal Hua into the direct involvement of the plot then we can get it moving, because the set up of various factions need to be in place before the actual war can happen. We should not wait for 2 more years to finally see Jingliu and Otto meeting the Marshal.
As for the writing proses, it is pretty much a mark of one of these two writers or both: Limengan and Fanchuan. Random usage of proses in sentences, using characters as plot devices more often than not, lots of yapping (good thing there aren't much of that in this new arc). I lean more towards Limengan writing this new story arc since the proses and yap aren't as bad as the first Xianzhou arc, but rumors is that Fanchuan will be writing the next planet and I am dreading the amount of Greece philosophy yap he's about to make everyone swallow. That shit killed the entirety of Honkai Impact 3rd final arc.
Last edited by Lily Emilio; August 7th, 2024 at 07:22 AM. Reason: typos
No, the actual lore of the game is irrelevant to how the Xianzhou hogs like 60% of content in game, and 80% of all playable characters. The IPC being present as a recurring faction throughout the game's story makes sense because of they're the biggest faction in lore. However, the Xianzhou factions are bloated in the sense that they're the only one being highlighted and wanked to such degree that they need multiple story arcs and dozens of dedicated Xianzhou patches to the point that they overwhelmingly overshadow all other factions and regions in the game's lore. I honestly has enough. I know that this is a game made in China, but they couldn't even present the Xianzhou in a remotely interesting enough way that justifies their inflated screen time.
Then why are you bringing the lore up to rant? And even if you ignore the lore this is straight up false. Out of all the arcs and story by far Penacony hogs the largest amount of text volume, the most amount of sandbox maps until this patch where the prison map is released to make it equal.
in terms of characters, the reason why Xianzhou Luofu chars are many because they have to add them a bunch to the beginning of the game similar to Belobog. That's like complaining about why Monstaht and Liyue had more chars than Inazuma, Sumeru and Fontaine. It's the starting region syndrome buddy, ofc there have to be a decently large roster available from the starting regions yet not many of them are relevant in the long run. Do you really expect to see chars like HuoHuo, Guinaifen, Sushang, Qingque, Hanya, Xueyi to be crucial to the grand scheme later? Do you expect anyone else other than the Arbiter-Generals (Emanators), Jingliu and maybe the other High Elder dragons are relevant to the Aeons war? Also 18 (counting Feixiao, Lingsha and Moze, I don't count Dan Heng because he is Astral Express) out of 56 (counting those 3) playable chars = 80% of all playable characters. Peak math right there Dr. Ratio is proud.
Do you really think all of them will be relevant and not just Jing Yuan, Feixiao, Jingliu and maybe Fu Xuan plus the Marshal and whoever the next big names in their alliance? They have a lot of characters but most of them are irrelevant fillers, while other factions have less amount of chars but all of them are relevant. Every single IPC chars are relevant, every single Astral Express chars are relevant (duh), every single factions contributed to Penacony arc are relevant. You are being salty over nothing.
This is like complaining about too much Japanese in GudaGuda.The IPC being present as a recurring faction throughout the game's story makes sense because of they're the biggest faction in lore. However, the Xianzhou factions are bloated in the sense that they're the only one being highlighted and wanked to such degree that they need multiple story arcs and dozens of dedicated Xianzhou patches to the point that they overwhelmingly overshadow all other factions and regions in the game's lore. I honestly has enough. I know that this is a game made in China, but they couldn't even present the Xianzhou in a remotely interesting enough way that justifies their inflated screen time.
What exactly is the wank here? They're not the strongest force, they're not being written to be overwhelmingly OP over other factions, most of their playable chars are not as important as the lower number but more important factions. Also the current arc isn't entirely just about them. Just with this one short prologue we have:
- Set up for the potential Abundance and Destruction forces allying with Phantylia still out their using powers of both, as well as the Hunt now having to clash with both.
- Set up for Ruan Mei about to do some crazy experiment again with the Leviathan fossils and who or whatever she got from the destroyed Xianzhou ship (probably involving the real Tingyun), her moment to become Aeon might be sooner than expected.
- Set up for the acceptance of the entire Xianzhou alliance with Elio's prophecy and supporting the Astral Express.
And overall the main focus is supposed to be more about the lightheart wardance tournament after Penacony to prepare for the next planet. How you take these as Xianzhou wank is beyond me, this is literally a very small expansion compare to their potential lore and I've see ppl disappointed that we don't go to the other Xianzhou ships but only chars from there visiting Luofu when each of their separate ships could be a whole new planet, and no even when they are from the same alliance the description of each of them makes them into vastly different settings from each other. If they go back to Belobog for the 3rd time instead for another Aetherium wars or another debt situation would you claim Belobog wanking too?
Why the fuck does the Yunli trailer have 5000% more personality in it than she shows in the entire game? Why are hoyo writers so bad at making dialogue and letting characters show any modicum of personality? Why is the entire game just standing around and looking ahead blankly while delivering bloated dialogue?
Did you also know that you can learn about how Yunli got her current fighting style after almost losing her life fighting an enemy who used one of the cursed swords, lost hundreds years of her lifespan by it draining her lifeforce and her ult was basically what she came up on the spot to kill the dude? Go read it in a book you loot in this patch! Or did you also know that the Borisins aren't just savage enemies and literally had some Game of Thrones politics in the background that you only learn through more books? Did you know that Hoolay's and Feixiao's background lore are in relic sets?
They only have 1 Shaoji. And he currently left after Penacony back to Honkai Impact to salvage the mess of their part 2 story atm being a literal rehash of Fate/Extra but worse (lmao). So we unfortunately are back to Limengan and Fanchuan, who are basically the Sanda and Sakurai of Hoyo's writing team and they are in charge of most of the time, who are really bad at adapting characters' backstory, lore and personality into the main story.
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