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    Any significance/appearance of chess in type-moon media?

    I figured it's a pretty cool board game with alot of history. What are some particular forms of media (anime, vn etc) that covers characters playing it/implementing it in the form of said media?
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    I think a lot of writers don't exactly play chess often, and when they include it in anime and stuff it usually ends up awkwardly mechanical or stilted (or wrong) like in Code Geass. So it usually exists in a figurative sense rather than an actual game. Fate/Zero uses it like this with Gilgamesh doodling around with the servants-as-chess-pieces.
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    What tickles me about the Gilgamesh scene is that to avoid an awkward space due to the fact that there are only seven classes, the gameboard itself was shrunk to a 7x7 board instead of the normal 8x8.

    But regardless, as was previously mentioned Chess just tends to be artistic/symbolic in Fate itself. I think Gawain's profile in Fate/Extra or FGO mentions he's pretty good at it but the game never actually is relevant as far as I can remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    I think Gawain's profile in Fate/Extra or FGO mentions he's pretty good at it but the game never actually is relevant as far as I can remember.
    It's CCC dialogue with Gawain rating himself in the upper half of the Round Table chess player tier list, telling Percival and Galahad were players on his level, and begrudgingly placing Lancelot a tier above himself. If you don't mind, I'd love to how you, in your Round Table expertise, would complete the tier list with the remaining 9 characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    I think a lot of writers don't exactly play chess often, and when they include it in anime and stuff it usually ends up awkwardly mechanical or stilted (or wrong) like in Code Geass. So it usually exists in a figurative sense rather than an actual game. Fate/Zero uses it like this with Gilgamesh doodling around with the servants-as-chess-pieces.
    I've finished the original code geass show and yeah I understand your point. Tbh It's really funny how they thought the kings could touch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    What tickles me about the Gilgamesh scene is that to avoid an awkward space due to the fact that there are only seven classes, the gameboard itself was shrunk to a 7x7 board instead of the normal 8x8.

    But regardless, as was previously mentioned Chess just tends to be artistic/symbolic in Fate itself. I think Gawain's profile in Fate/Extra or FGO mentions he's pretty good at it but the game never actually is relevant as far as I can remember.

    Honestly what's even weirder is that there's a holy grail piece in the middle of the board (when I searched for fate chessboards). It changes the entire perspective of the game alongside with the new pieces and board setup. I really would've wished chess got represented in a more formal, straightup way but I can see why its symbolised as the game of war in those particular media.
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    There was ordinary chess in Last Encore. It was shown as one of the ways participants were eliminated, with Leo defeating the Chess club champ and thus earning his spot past the preliminaries apparently. Course it wasn't particularly detailed and mostly plays into the symbolism of conflict thing.
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    The chess game played in episode 1 of LE was also a metaphor for an actual Servant battle (according to the script). In the actual events that transpired there, Leo and Mr. Random Master fought with Servants and the latter got killed.

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    In the UBW anime, an infodump was visualised with chess pieces.

    Everyone liked that.

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    Everybody's just waiting for the moment the Bobby Fischer Watcher Servant drops and revolutionizes the way Holy Grail Wars are narratively conducted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    Everybody's just waiting for the moment the Bobby Fischer Watcher Servant drops and revolutionizes the way Holy Grail Wars are narratively conducted.
    Maybe not Bobby Fischer, but it could be a neat narrative device to have an omnipotent narrator type illustrate it that way, like how Twice bookends the extra chapters or how Zelretch did the Ayaka selection thing at the start of strange fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    In the UBW anime, an infodump was visualised with chess pieces.

    Everyone liked that.
    The episode previews in ubw show what's happening in the next ep with chess pieces.
    That was good way to do it.
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    Well... kinda. Shirou was a pawn and Rin was a queen, and maybe Kirei was a bishop or something? But all the Servants were represented by their Class statue thingies. I don't remember what Gil was represented by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomPen94 View Post
    I don't remember what Gil was represented by.
    A gold-ish pawn
    Illya was also a pawn but with Dress of Heaven's crown on it
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    In Apocrypha, there was the chess game between Darnic and Avicebron. As for story relevance, I recall Darnic used a Grail piece to declare checkmate and there was a black Pawn that fell on the floor to represent Sieg, I think.

    In the 1st Opening, there is also a 7x7, red/white chess board with Servants classes as chess pieces, where they are black and red to represent the two Factions.
    Last edited by Rentenzen; May 24th, 2023 at 12:12 PM.

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