Reading this discussion makes me have intrusive thoughts.
Also where does the seman go? Do the mages drink it or does it go to the "other" hole?
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The third option: suppositories.
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How does the church reconcile the existence of reincarnation with christian theology?
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For「机」sometimes「几」is used.
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Probably yes, it just doesn't matter to her.
The same way they reconcile the existence of magecraft with their faith. Most of them don't know about it, and the ones who do know enough that they probably understand God as more of a conceptual motive force, though still in the distinct New Testament way (like, that Genesis shouldn't be taken literally but the spirit of it is still a deliberate ethical meaning behind our existence in this world and choices we make) rather than going wholly Spinoza or some kind of schizo-protestant. This is obviously the way it is for Kotomine and christian magi like the Tohsakas.
You see, if you ask a catholic priest 'why does le evil exist is god is le good', a philosphical dilema that's 2300 years old and wasn't even about monotheism, they will readily reply that evil is not present in the world, but rather a distinct part of human condition. So there is no evil in a stillbirth - it's sad, but it's just a result of the ambivalent rules of the world we live in. A bear mauling a person to death isn't evil - shouldn't have stood there, the bear thought nothing of it. This world is a compromise made to make lots of separate consciousnesses coexist. It's 'evil' if you mess with other people beyond the degree they want to be messed with and it is assumed that everyone innately knows that this is wrong. Thus Kotomine's query about Avenger is really just a regular catholic priest entertaining the fantastical possibility of a being who only exists to mess with others and cannot exist without messing with others but simultaneously is being subject to Christian morality, unlike, say, an animal, or going more abstract, a demon. This is interesting to him because he feels like he lacks the ability to distinguish good from evil on emotional level; and decides he won't take 'you are meant to be the way you are' for an answer, going against the teachings directly. Some degree of moral relativism is required to even entertain that thought (and especially to force the point like he does). This is not unlike many times in history where new concepts were introduced to society and the priests and theologists had to convene and get real moral relativist to figure out what they think about it. And sometimes they'd get a bit too relative and burn someone at stake over it.
So a priest, say, Roa, learning about reincarnation, will still work within the framework of Christian thought. He goes 'well clearly our conception of what exactly a soul is was wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that the fragments are still forced to recur in the helish profane 3D realm until rapture'. This is essentially all fine and dandy with gnostic Christianity, in fact you get to suffer even more for your faults, and thus you get more chances to become virtuous in spite of the pain. One could even conclude that, Alighieri-style, hell is in fact the real world, and that's exactly where you go when you fail at life. This also implies that souls can distinguish themselves enough to get out, and that is kind of true with the Throne of Heroes (even though the bits are still recycled). A significantly bigger hurdle is the fact that the Throne exists out of time, which has strongly deterministic implications denying free will. But Nasu never really thought that part through.
It's worth saying there's a difference between bringing the dead back to life where they don't belong (EVIL), living past your alloted timespan (EVIL) and making the once living alive again (GOOD). The latter is also impossible, so Jesus and Aoko are that much cooler for doing it.
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Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.