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    Ending spoilers:
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    IDGAF who says that this is the "canon" ending:

    I haven't seen this level of hypocrisy since Sideshow Bob used a TV to express his goal of removing TVs:

    For context to my thought process, if it is unclear, in Skyrim, I never killed Paarthurnax, and I always choose to be a vampire or a werewolf. I find these "monsters and demons" to be more kindred than any common mortal.
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    SMT V's introduction is hilariously brief.

    "Here are your three buddies. Let me leave their names on the screen a long time so you can remember them. Okay? Done? Alright THE WORLD IS OVER here's an angel some other guy was just kidnapped by it now you're a proto demon thing start fighting GO GO GO"

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    I had to use my Moh Shuvuu to summon Alice, so I decided to get another one via capture, rather than fusion... So, um, I decided to talk to one, and she said that she heard "rumors about me" and left... Wait, did the game just become self-aware? You know that mechanic that Doki Doki Lit. Club and Ar Nosurge use on purpose? SMTV may have done so by accident. Anyway, during that same fight, I managed to get another Moh Shuvuu down to low health, so she ended up being the one to initiate conversation, and I recruited her that way.
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    Ok guys so I just beat SMT4. Should I play 5 or Apocalypse next? Also does the story of apocalypse actually have anything to do with 4 or is it just set in the same area?

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    Play 5 regardless, it's got horny demons
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    Btw this is my first SMT but can I take any certain demon until late game or will I need to fuse higher tier demons as I progress to keep up with the difficulty?

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    From what I know of P5's meta, fusing is the way to go. I suspect it may be the way for all the other games as well, including SMT.
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    I get this vague feeling from your posts that you're looking down on people who don't share your view, which is what it is, but at least take a moment to snort some common sense between those hits of pretension.
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    My opinion is better than your opinion, so it isn't up for debate.
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    You seriously underestimate the human potential for wanting to fuck stuff, my dude.
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    Welcome to BL, new user. Don't forget to fate/stay mad
    Quote Originally Posted by Sione
    Prententious killjoys with comically academic "critiques" are just as annoying as braindead gachoomers. This is the only valid horseshoe.
    A Fond Farewell to Type-Moon is a fucking gold mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeLord View Post
    Ok guys so I just beat SMT4. Should I play 5 or Apocalypse next? Also does the story of apocalypse actually have anything to do with 4 or is it just set in the same area?
    Apocalypse is a direct sequel to 4, so I'd hit that next. Also that way you stay on the 3DS and don't have to deal with the hassle of going back to an older system after playing a newer one.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Btw this is my first SMT but can I take any certain demon until late game or will I need to fuse higher tier demons as I progress to keep up with the difficulty?
    Sort of. The demon will keep gaining stats and levels, but no new abilities after the first 5. You can offset that in this with the essences, teaching stronger moves and resistances to older demons, but also as you go forward the demons will start with higher base stats, so you may need to grind them up to higher levels to be on par with demons of a lower level.

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    Sounds like more work than I want to go through.

    I'll just hope the cool ones are late game demons.

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    Wait I actually reasearched it and Mother Harlot is dlc fuuuuuuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    Play 5 regardless, it's got horny demons
    Don't they all?
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    Maybe, but 5 is the only one where you can be as horny as them in dialogue
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    I get this vague feeling from your posts that you're looking down on people who don't share your view, which is what it is, but at least take a moment to snort some common sense between those hits of pretension.
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    Welcome to BL, new user. Don't forget to fate/stay mad
    Quote Originally Posted by Sione
    Prententious killjoys with comically academic "critiques" are just as annoying as braindead gachoomers. This is the only valid horseshoe.
    A Fond Farewell to Type-Moon is a fucking gold mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Btw this is my first SMT but can I take any certain demon until late game or will I need to fuse higher tier demons as I progress to keep up with the difficulty?
    You need to fuse up unless you REALLY like that Pixie or Mermaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    SMT V's introduction is hilariously brief.

    "Here are your three buddies. Let me leave their names on the screen a long time so you can remember them. Okay? Done? Alright THE WORLD IS OVER here's an angel some other guy was just kidnapped by it now you're a proto demon thing start fighting GO GO GO"
    I mean, Nocturne did it the same way and worse. Mainline SMT doesn't really do "true friends" the way Persona does, expect anyone and everyone you meet to secretly be an asshole and/or die suddenly.
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    I've played the start of Nocturne before and I don't think it's comparable.
    It sets up characters a bit, builds some mystery... This one doesn't even let you digest what is happening in the city before it is destroyed.

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    I felt like the story was really barebones, moreso than i expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    You need to fuse up unless you REALLY like that Pixie or Mermaid.
    You can fuse down to a degree. I think middle-game demons can be taken to 99 fairly reasonably (i did it with Alice and Idun, granted they both are fucking op). Early ones like Mermaid... you probably would have to work for it.

    I wonder how swole could i get Idun if i put enough work in the required demons
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    Spoiler:
    That "create a world for humanity alone" ending really hits home that most of these protagonists really are dumb teenage kids. "If there were no demons, surely, humans wouldn't kill each other." Who else would believe that? Of course, there are people who go into adulthood with such a childish mindset.
    I think that the Fate series knows exactly what someone who wants an easy button on world peace deserves. Yes, Kiritsugu. I feel no such pity for such men. Only mockery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    I felt like the story was really barebones, moreso than i expected.


    You can fuse down to a degree. I think middle-game demons can be taken to 99 fairly reasonably (i did it with Alice and Idun, granted they both are fucking op). Early ones like Mermaid... you probably would have to work for it.

    I wonder how swole could i get Idun if i put enough work in the required demons
    Someone on /r/Megaten did it.
    Also, good to know Alice is viable this time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    I felt like the story was really barebones, moreso than i expected.


    You can fuse down to a degree. I think middle-game demons can be taken to 99 fairly reasonably (i did it with Alice and Idun, granted they both are fucking op). Early ones like Mermaid... you probably would have to work for it.

    I wonder how swole could i get Idun if i put enough work in the required demons
    In terms of stats, I think I read +20 was the max for top end fusion material.

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