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    Chapter 19 – N.E.W.T.-Level Studies

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    Writer's Note: Certain dialogue sequences in this story are lifted from DOA Xtreme Beach Volleyball: Venus Vacation, but I trust in the intelligence of my readers and the (general) availability of the game to recognise them when they see them.
















    Memorial Garden Courtyard
    Hogwarts Castle, Scotland
    July 8, 2004

















    On paper, Ginevra Molly Longbottom (nee Weasley) was a junior Auror—not fresh out of training, nor a rookie, but one without much in terms of seniority. While the Department of Magical Law Enforcement had been gutted during the conflict with Voldemort, during both phases, enough remained of the experienced staff to maintain the general hierarchy. Rank and seniority had its privileges.

    However, she was also a war veteran—a war hero, if you believed the popular press—and a fully-accredited combat instructor for the Auror Division. She’d been trained in strategy and tactics to a degree that no one her age, regardless of profession, generally was, and had experience in applying them that perhaps twenty other people in the country, at most, could match.

    (Admittedly, a vixenish side of Ginny reminded her, five of those people were in the garden with her—or even six, if Hermione happened to be dreamwalking—and Ilya might count too, depending on her training . . .)

    However, she wasn’t simply a soldier, no matter how skilled—Aurors were investigators, as well. And again, she was ahead of her peers in that area. While she’d missed out on “The Affair of the Philosopher’s Stone,” her school cohort had faced any number of puzzles and deadly conundrums during their years at Hogwarts. And again, she’d been trained accordingly: the youngest Weasley of seven and only girl, she’d always had a gift for thinking laterally—it was a survival skill against pranksters like Fred and George, or the restrictions of her authoritarian mother.

    But she’d also (unlike most witches and wizards, she often thought witheringly) learned how to think critically, as well—poke holes in ideas, beliefs and arguments, to test their validity and flaws. The skill had saved her life more than once, before she was even of age; nowadays, it had given her the highest successful closure rate of any presently serving Auror.

    And as such, when Galen started turning dead white, she started thinking.

    It was possible that he was putting on a show for their visitors. Anyone bearing the name “Akiha Tohno” would absolutely be someone Galen would be wary of, even if he seemed more familiar with this one than the unlamented Tohno matriarch that Ginny had heard of—and he was definitely that good a liar. . .

    But honestly, the redhead didn’t think so. She’d seen the expression on his face once before, and had the time to take a good, long view—his being Petrified afforded her the luxury. She knew what absolute terror looked like on Galen Salvatore’s face, and she’d seen it again now, before he’d locked himself down with Occlumency; if possible, he looked even worse than before. Between that and the fact that Luna—arguably the most unflappable person she knew—was equally scared, it implied “Very Bad Things,” as the blonde was won’t to say.

    (Though the redhead never had figured out just how Luna was able to vocalise capital letters . . .)

    You’re distracting yourself, chided the disciplined part of her, and Ginny drew up her own Occlumency training to centre her mind. Shoving the emotions out of the way (for now, at least), she considered the pair of girls before her.

    Akiha Tohno, she only knew by name; and the one she knew wouldn’t be this young. She was, at a glance, very much the high-class lady that Takara had been raised to be—polite and formal in speech and manner, soft-spoken, self-contained and inscrutable in disposition. Ginny recognised the type, since they were as common in England as in Japan. It would be like dealing with Tracey Davis, if she was more aristocratic in bearing and background . . .

    Fortunately, dealing with Takara had taught her a few tricks to see past the mask, at least as it was fashioned in Nihon, and Baroness von Einzbern had passed on a few diplomatic tactics that worked against a broader range of cultures . . . Honestly, though, gaining Fleur Delacour as a sister-in-law had done as much or more for Ginny’s arsenal in this situation—the older witch had snobbery honed to an art form, and was very invested in making sure that all her little sisters were well-armed for such confrontations.

    As such, the redhead was reasonably confident that she could see past anything the Tohno girl might attempt—her friend, on the other hand, was another matter.

    “Hakuno Kishinami” was, after all, also a name that Ginny knew quite well. She (or he, depending on preference) was the centrepiece of the Holy Grail War playset’s “Hecate Edition” figures—and the resemblance was uncanny . . . But she’d never looked like that in anything Ginny had seen—almost military, and dangerous with it.

    I think I need to have a word with Fred and George about their future release plans, the Auror mused grimly, before another thought occurred to her. And I don’t think a research assistant’s authority is going to cut it if we want to stop the Unspeakables or anyone else from poking into or weaponizing the source material, “Director’s pet” or not . . .

    Unfortunately, when it came to the Department of Mysteries, Ginny could count on the number of its members she trusted on one hand with a finger left over—and that was if she included Hermione as one. And in-law or not, the redhead didn’t have the pull to rate a consultation with the head of the department strictly on her own say-so, not through official channels—and she couldn’t get into the Department without going through them. Galen might have a back channel, but Ginny wouldn’t want to count on it—Croaker was the sort to deny that sort of favoritism in the name of objectivity.

    And normally, I’d applaud—but if we’re going to have a LOT of these kinds of people showing up, and Galen’s terrified . . .!

    She resisted the urge to bang her head on one of the castle archways, but it was a near thing.

    There was nothing for it, Ginny decided at last. She’d have to try to track down Gwydion and see if his clearances rated Croaker’s immediate attention. Going by their previous encounters, the field agent was competent enough that she expected he was fairly high-ranked in the Department of Mysteries—just a colossal pain in the ass to deal with (if much less so than his colleagues, or at least in less infuriating ways). Which, of course, explained why someone so capable was only a field agent: he couldn’t cut the politics required in higher circles—or more accurately, really didn’t give a damn about them.

    (Ginny rather liked him for that.)

    Finding him was going to be a job, though. And knowing him, when she did, it would be because the Unspeakable was going to walk up behind her and ask what took her so long . . .

    The redheaded witch suppressed a groan. She could feel the headache forming alre—

    Her thoughts were immediately interrupted by Galen suddenly spoke up, with the professionally blank expression that told her he was heavily immersed in Occlumency.

    “As much as I hate to do it,” he said carefully, “for some of this explanation, I’m going to have to speak obliquely—

    Ginny’s snort of disbelief was muffled by Neville’s much louder one, though Luna got the lion’s share of attention, even though she limited herself to a brief cackle, this time—her self-possession really had improved.

    Meanwhile, Takara, Shirou and Ilya were all just giving him Looks—though the half-Veela broke hers off when Galen stared back for a beat.

    “Forgive my friends,” he said with a sigh. “I have a generally deserved reputation for misdirection and theatricality, but in this case, it’s because what we’ll be discussing is a cognitohazard—” He stopped, then asked, “Actually, are any of you familiar with the term? I know that Rin’s the only actually trained magus among you, and I don’t see her there . . .”

    “An antiquated term for an ‘information hazard,’ said the younger, red-eyed version of Ilya (and wasn’t that a sight? Obviously not a Veela, but no less beautiful, bizarrely). “Information that is dangerous if disseminated—or even possessed—to others or the holder.”

    She smirked.

    “Well, this is a class above the standard definition,” Galen said seriously. “With regard to certain entities, and especially deities, names have power—and worse, will draw their attention if used. We absolutely DO NOT want that to happen.”

    Thunder did not rumble with that statement, though a part of Ginny really felt that it should have; when Galen spoke in that tone, it seemed to require it. And part of her recognised that she was trying to distract herself from being terrified, because he was obviously terrified, and that was always REALLY BAD—

    The red-haired Auror dove into her Occlumency training and forced herself to listen.

    “But you’ve been using Erik’s and Krampus’ names with no problem . . .?”
    the younger Shirou (though again, with darker eyes than Ginny was used to) questioned.

    “It’s a matter of scale,” Galen replied. “Multiple versions of the Christmas Devil exist in the omniverse, but almost none of them are deities—and as I’m not a child, I’m outside the majority’s sphere of influence. And Erik doesn’t really have omniversal influence, or even multiversal influence—he’s more or less limited to his particular branch of reality, being either unknown or nonexistent outside it. After all, your world’s version of the Norse pantheon doesn’t have a ‘God of Mecha,’ does it?”

    “Not that I’ve ever heard of,” Shirou admitted, “but I’m not really up on foreign mythology . . . There’s nothing about that in Hrunting’s history, at least.”

    “Right, the bulk of your weapons are either Asian or Celtic . . .” Galen mused, before shaking his head. “Either way, their limited influence means that unless we’re on a plane where they’re active, they won’t hear us. The same would not be true if I invoked, say, a one-eyed wanderer by his divine name; he’s recorded as the King of Asgard in more versions of the World—and worse, clairvoyant enough in a lot of them to trace the call . . .

    “But what I’m about to discuss?” he prompted sharply. “Has no such limits, being largely outside what we think of as ‘reality’—if I name any of them directly, they will hear, and if we are VERY lucky, humankind will have died out by the time they think to investigate . . . And none of us, singularly or collectively, are, have been or WILL EVER BE THAT lucky.”

    (And after that, the lack of following thunder REALLY felt wrong . . .)

    “So, before we begin in detail, I’d like a ‘yes or no’ answer,” Galen continued, taking a deep breath. “Do any of you have any data on a Servant Class called ‘Foreigner . . .?’

    In a very neat trick for what looked like a “Force Ghost,” both Ilya and Luvia’s counterparts visibly paled.

    “Keep that in mind, going forward,” he instructed, before closing his eyes and taking a deep breath.

    “So, Scion was a role-playing game I once ran. Some years after our ‘chronicle’—the in-game term for a campaign—concluded, a second edition of the game was announced. It was going to have a revamped rule system, which we thought it needed, having noted several flaws during play, and additional elements, like adding the Arthurian mythos as a pantheon—”

    Ginny noted that another blonde, who’d just walked in and was dressed in a sensible blouse and skirt combination—along with an air like a younger, mundane McGonagall—was locked intently on Galen after that comment.

    (The redhead would be damned if she could figure out why, though . . .)

    “—along with several others . . . Including one derived from the works of H.P. Lovecraft.”

    If possible, the two pale “ghosts” got paler still.

    “After many years of waiting, the game was finally released,” Galen continued. “And the mechanics made it laughably unplayable. Worse, the existing pantheons had been revamped: new deities had been added to some, and others were entirely absent—including Erik’s divine sire—and so were some pantheons. So, my admittedly tentative plan to adapt the existing Band of Scions, or to just advance their timeline such that they could be the gods who sired the new player Scions, became useless. However, I still kept collecting the books, because I liked a lot of the lore behind it, and I wanted to see what they’d done to the Arthurian stories, if nothing else. And if I’m honest, I kept hoping there’d be a fix for the problems with the rules somewhere down the line. . .

    “And there wasn’t,” he admitted. “But it did end up answering some lore questions, in a roundabout way—including about my own campaign, in hindsight. Specifically, why were the rules SO different between editions . . . And where did Krampus come from?

    “And the answer is . . .? asked the Luvia lookalike.

    “The answer to the first is that the Mythos isn’t affected by Fate as is normal, because it warps reality—or erodes it—by its very presence,” Galen replied. “And as to the second question . . . He was never intended to be Krampus, at first. He was just an NPC I made up to play with the system myself and take some heat off the two-player group. He started out as a member of the Tuatha—the Celtic pantheon—and got adopted by others as I got new lore from other sourcebooks, or he got ‘killed off’ in a fight; later revealed as faking his death to a greater purpose, of course. And I could get away with that because trickster gods and those kinds of ploys are common in myth—just look at Odysseus, or Medea.”

    The lycan wizard grinned. “It certainly made his time spent as a Scion of your pantheon fun for me, Lady Astraea.”

    The blonde blinked—though whether at the revelation or the genuine respect in his voice at the use of her name and title, Ginny couldn’t say. The Auror was, however, fairly certain about the predatory expression on her face once it had sunk in.

    Really . . . the apparent goddess said, with a low chuckle (that for some reason but Ginny in mind of a hyena).

    “Eventually, however, it became clear that Erik’s player was not going to give up on the Norse pantheon, despite his character’s issues with their way of life, so if I wanted to keep the Band together, they’d have to join him.” He scowled before muttering, almost to himself, “Also didn’t help that Ragnarök was the only pantheon-specific book produced, despite the wealth of material in Greek mythology and others—cheap, lazy bastards . . .

    “Anyways,” Galen continued in a more normal voice, “I was going to turn him into Santa Claus, because there are elements to him that tie him back to the King of Asgard, and I like holidays and whimsy—”

    That garnered another round of looks and snorts which baffled the visitors.

    “—but I eventually decided on Krampus, because he fit the Norse themes better, and was even native-ish to the area, since Germany and Scandinavia have historical and geographical ties . . . And that left the campaign with the Fenris Wolf redeemed, Erik happy in his forges with his wife, the former mortal Marcus as king of Svartalfheim with Brynhild as his queen, and Krampus as leader of the Wild Hunt, consort to the ruler of Helheim. But that begged a question I never answered in-game: how did he actually survive all those fights, and how did he switch pantheons so often, so easily . . .?

    “And what I’m about to tell you,” Galen warned, “based on what you told me, not even Erik knows—nor will your missing friend, by design, and telling him is a VERY BAD idea, for the same reason. Understood?”

    Once everyone had nodded in acknowledgement, he continued, “As before, the Mythos was the answer: because he was their unwilling, unwitting way into the World as Scion knew it. By becoming a God himself, he tied them to the World; and by breaking Fate the way they did—time travelling to rehabilitate the Fenris Wolf and invalidate the dictates of Ragnarök . . .” He shook his head. “The backlash from that paradox turned out to be what released the Titans in the first place; meaning that it created a time loop that couldn’t be undone, because their escape caused their apotheosis, ultimately, so the Mythos couldn’t be expelled as they slipped in through the cracks. . .

    “Not that Krampus took it lying down, of course. You don’t use a Scion of the God of Vengeance like that—himself the God of Cruel Punishments, no less—and not expect to suffer for it . . . But he doubtless surprised even them. His first step was to get his Bandmates out of the line of fire. Routes to Svartalfheim were easily closed off, but Erik was harder—more stubborn, for one, and as likely as not to go poking around the Mythos out of curiosity and bring it on himself. Krampus eventually set off a series of subtle sabotages and arguments within the Aesir that played on Erik’s paranoia, driving him to settle on Mars. Still technically part of ‘The World’ as Scion’s rules define it—being the mortal realm—but off of Earth.

    “If nothing else,” Galen concluded sombrely, “Erik would at least have a chance to see the Mythos’ incursion coming and have time to run. Or to dig in and try and make a stand, if he chose to.”

    “Strange,” mused Akiha coolly.

    As everyone looked at her, the girl elaborated, “Does it not strike anyone else as unlikely, that a ‘God of Cruel Punishments’ would be so concerned for his friends?” She raised her eyebrow in that elegant way that Japanese women and Hermione could apparently do instinctively as she added dryly, “Or to have any at all, actually?”

    “He’s a good guy,” Ghost Shirou countered, almost defensively.

    The boy who was apparently a younger version of Takara’s father hmphed quietly—apparently not convinced by that statement for some reason, and looking at Akiha with concern.

    Leaning slightly, she whispered to Takara, “I thought it was your Mum who didn’t like Galen . . .?”

    Apparently not quietly enough, though, because the Japanese schoolgirl twitched—

    “Krampus is the Christmas Devil—as one movie put it, the shadow of Saint Nicholas,” Galen answered. “He brings punishments rather than gifts, but only because you’ve earned them—unlike his queen, it’s his punishments that are cruel, rather than the deity himself . . . But if you give him an excuse, he will drag you through torments that will write entirely new legends with a smile on his face, because he loves nothing more than seeing justice served.”

    “In other words,” Takara said lightly as she placed a hand on his shoulder, “there wasn’t actually much role-playing involved, Anata . . .?

    That took their visitors aback (both physically present and otherwise) and Ginny knew Takara was deliberately flashing her ring with her choice of using her left hand—seriously, what was she playing at . . .?

    “Regardless,” said the last blonde to have entered, with an authoritarian tone that definitely reminded Ginny of McGonagall “We have heard how he dealt with his allies—now, he did deal with his enemies . . .?

    “Among other things, Second Edition introduced the concept of ‘Mantles,’” Galen replied. “This was a way of explaining deities being adopted by different cultures and changing in the process, such as the Olympians going from Greek to Roman”—he nodded at Astraea—“or something like the various reincarnations of the Hindu pantheon. Divine identities could be discarded, to be picked up by others . . . It took a long time, even with the newly-cosmic perspective he possessed as part of the Mythos—but Krampus was immortal, and had access to the Stars Purview, which was intertwined with the concept of Time. He found a realm where the Mythos was only ever fiction, and only ever would be; somewhere they could never follow him, because the pure Mythos entities never had been human to enable them to do the same . . .

    “The Mythos’ key to the World broke itself in the lock—and tore away everything that ever connected him to his former identity. He bound them to the World—and to that World, only. They can’t just come through anywhere in that reality; they have to go through Earth, where they can be fought—and those incarnations of the Mythos can’t expand beyond that reality. Worse, the concept has been set in Fate, now: having been trapped there once, they can be trapped again. It’s theoretically possible to bind the whole of the Mythos to that reality, though you’d need to do it to every individual version across the whole of the omniverse . . . And they can’t do anything about it, because any inheritor of the Mantle would just repeat the process—vengeance and cruelty are the Mantle’s essence, and killing the Mantle wearer just sets things back to square one.”

    (Ginny couldn’t help a slow smile creeping across her face. It did sound like a wonderful punishment . . .)

    “They hate him, but they can’t touch him—or at least, they couldn’t,” Galen finished grimly.

    “. . . So how in the world did he end up on our doorstep?” Ghost Ilya (or “Ilyasviel,” Ginny supposed, because they weren’t close) demanded.

    “The Mythos exists within the cosmology of Dungeons and Dragons, as well. And being as at least some of them are beyond space and time—two in particular—they’re aware of their counterparts across the ominiverse; why do you think I’m not naming anybody . . .?” Galen shook his head. “I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort it must’ve taken to get the Seldarine to do their dirty work, or move Erik into a position where he’d come into contact with him—and that would piss Krampus off more than ANYTHING else, after what he did to keep his battle brother AWAY from their tentacles . . .

    “A peaceful, joyful life was never for him—I call him the consort of Helheim’s ruler, but he was never who she truly wanted, and they both knew it—but he could recognise true love when he saw it, and he did in Tamamo no Mae. That, as much as anything else, stayed his hand—and as she’s one of your country’s ‘Three Great Evils,’ you can just imagine how much that pained him.” Galen’s eyes darkened. “And now, imagine what it means to him, to have such a love endangered . . .

    He was silent, almost seething, for a moment—until Takara murmured into his ear amusedly, “No role-playing at all . . .

    For a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment, Galen flushed—and Ginny smiled on seeing his Occlumency crack, even for just an instant. As Neville had said, it was nice to be reminded that the trinity were human, on occasion.

    “It was backstory; I never got the chance—!” Galen said defensively, before continuing firmly, “But regardless, while Krampus tore Fate’s bindings to shreds in shedding his Mantle, the frayed threads still exist. They’ll be reaching for connections, from either his end or the Mantle’s—and Fate will be trying to weave a new pattern around him, regardless; meeting Erik only serves the Mythos’ plans, because it firms the existing one . . .

    “And it’s made all the worse,” he added, “because they’ve already infiltrated your cluster of the omniverse, so they have the opportunity to—”

    “WHAT?” chorused from multiple throats.

    Galen grimaced. “Extremely short version: in another worldline, a Demon God managed to make fiction into reality—the Mythos is now genuine, and because of their nature, they can basically reach any part of your version of said reality. The Throne is atemporal and the ‘Foreigner’ Class exists . . .

    “So why,” Shirou asked suddenly, “wasn’t this guy obliterated on arrival?

    Ginny turned to him, and so did everyone else.

    “I know how the powers that be work in that reality,” he said in a tone like hammering iron. “If he was the key to opening up the World to a direct assault, rather than the trickle that the Servant system allows for, Fuyuki should’ve been buried in the annals of history seconds before he could show up. Why is your world still standing if he’s that big of a potential threat?”

    “Good point,” Galen agreed thoughtfully. “I mean, they take the path of least effort, it’s true, but obliterating him would have been the least effort, compared to what would happen if things actually kicked off . . . Heck, given the scale of the threat, it’d almost be worth materialising a—”

    Galen stopped. And not just “stopped talking,” but completely—for an instant, Ginny could see him not breathe, and she wouldn’t have put even a Knut on his heart not ceasing to beat, as well.

    “. . . The Throne,” he repeated slowly, “is atemporal . . . And one of the best counters to a Foreigner-class Servant is another Foreigner—and that’s what this is all about, isn’t it, Lady Astraea?”

    “It’s the design the Parcae have woven,” she said, carefully not naming any details. “Unfortunately, the mortals of this era seem remarkably free-willed . . . She narrowed her eyes at him. “As you are well aware, going by your continuing use of obliqueness.

    “For all my love of theatricality, Lady Astraea, I can be subtle,” Galen said dryly, before smirking and adding, “In point of fact, the one is usually an excellent cover for the other . . .

    “. . . OK,” Ilyasviel chirped to her half-Veela self, seeming oddly cheerful. Now I understand why you wanted him.”

    (Was she actually like this as a child? Ginny wondered . . .)

    “It was more like I was pressed for time than actual want, but you can’t argue with the results,” Ilya replied, gesturing at her figure with a smirk.

    “. . . Would anyone care to translate all this into the Queen’s English for the rest of us?” Ginny finally demanded, her patience exhausted. “Or do we need to suffer through another ten minutes of doublespeak and posturing before one of you gets to the bloody point?

    She took a little satisfaction at watching several faces turn red at her outburst—though by the faintness of the colour on Galen’s cheeks, she was pretty sure it was only because he allowed it to show through. By contrast, Akiha was as red as Takara used to get when they were girls—if there was any doubt that she actually was the teenager she appeared to be, that pretty much killed it . . .

    “Sorry,” Galen muttered, before taking a deep breath. “Again, the extremely short version is that their world has a defence system that the Mythos falls under—but the portion of it specific to the Mythos was compromised to the point that it’s basically suicidal to invoke. And any potential replacement for it is either unreliable because of ties to the Mythos, or just not close enough to the necessary parameters . . . But their wayward friend might do, with a caveat: there’s a very thin line between his becoming what they need, and what the Mythos wants—and given the Mythos' general ability to perceive the future, the fewer hints they have about what’s coming, the better.”

    “In other words,” Ilyasviel said grimly, “we’re trying to derail the plots of near-invincible, near-omnipotent—and worst of all, near-omniscient cosmic horrors, with an nonexistent margin of error between success and failure.”

    Ginny couldn’t help it—she grinned.

    “Lucky you wound up here, then,” she said lightly.

    Everyone turned to shoot her a disbelieving look, but she fixed her eyes on the trinity.

    “The seven of us have never met an impossible challenge or immutable law that we couldn’t twist into a knotted pretzel between us—eventually,” she added quickly, because Hermione was still a vampire, but they were no less determined to beat that, too. “And beating future threats, even when your window of opportunity to react is measured in fractions of a second, is a specialty of yours.”

    She stared almost hard enough at Galen to brush the edges of his Occlumency defences, but you wouldn’t need his skill at Legilimency to read the direction of her thoughts.

    (Their trip through time in her fourth year had left an impression, after all.)

    “I’ve told you all before, Ginny—I’m not nearly so clever as I made it look like at the time,” Galen sighed. “I managed more than half of what I did because I had the ultimate cheat sheet stuffed in my head; and even then, you know how often things went bad—”

    Out of the corner of her eye, the red-haired witch noted Akiha Tohno staring at Galen with an expression she couldn’t read; a quick glance saw Shiki Tohno looking, as well—and Takara was looking smug. . .

    But not at Akiha, or her father’s counterpart.

    “Anata,” she said with clear amusement, “have you or have you not just spent the last twenty minutes explaining to us how you wrote the cheat sheet, this time . . .?

    “You worked within others’ rules, yes, but every ambiguity, every loophole, every unmentioned or unconsidered detail—that was you. What limits and weaknesses they have, you know; the way Fate really works, for them and for him, you defined. There is no one better suited to pointing these people in the direction of their friend, and the best way to help him.”

    She moved closer, with that light. gliding step of hers that made it seem like Takara only ever paid lip service to gravity. It certainly impressed their visitors; Young Shiki visibly started at the movement, and Akiha inhaled sharply, if quietly. Ginny expected that only an Animagus whose form had sharper hearing (which was, essentially, everyone here) would’ve caught it. Funnily enough, though, Hakuno Kishinami didn’t look at all impressed—or even so much as perturbed by any of what had gone on.

    (She had the either had the self-discipline of a Master Occlumens, or the emotional range of a teaspoon, as Hermione liked to say—Ginny wasn’t sure which way she’d bet, but either option made her dangerous.)

    Takara, meanwhile, had neither eyes nor ears for anyone but her husband—and when she spoke again, her voice was pitched in that “only-Animagi” volume and tone.

    “Do what you do best, mon cher.

    For once, Takara’s use of French did not trigger a reenactment of Gomez Addams’ infamous response to it. Instead, Galen’s eyes unfocused, and Ginny fancied that, if she looked deeply enough, she could see something glittering in their dark depths . . .

    “What are they doing?” Akiha murmured in Japanese, her voice low and filled with a mix of confusion and outrage. “And in public, at a time like this?”

    Not what you’re thinking,” Shirou answered, and Ginny realised the Tohno girl had asked him directly. “Galen’s one of our major planners. I’m better at tactics and adapting on the fly and Luna, among others in our group, is better at technical work and puzzle-solving, but in terms of sheer creativity, with a somewhat sadistic bent—”

    Neville coughed in a way that sounded remarkably like “Marianas Trench.”

    “OK,” Shirou corrected himself, “a lot of sadism—but my point stands: if you need an answer to a problem in a way that no one is liable to see coming, and a few backup options if they do, then Galen is the man to go to.”

    “And all that—intimacy,” Akiha finally settled on the last word after struggling for a moment. “What is that in aid of . . .?”

    “Oh, that’s defined as a ‘perk,’ really,” Luna said helpfully, her tone of voice distinctly airy. “Galen loves to watch his wife move, you see—but she loves to watch him dream.

    “. . .” Akiha was struck dumb—there was no other word for it. Despite her largely composed facial expression, the Tohno heiress positively radiated confusion.

    Hakuno, surprisingly, reached out to pat her shoulder.

    “You get used to it,” the brown-haired girl said sagely.
















    But I don’t want to get used to it . . .! Akiha protested silently.

    The Tohno heiress was inwardly reeling over the events following their arrival. First, dealing with people she knew, and who seemed to know her—including a near-twin to the man she’d hoped to find—and yet, whom she did not know at all . . . Then, there was the revelation that her intended target was apparently an unwitting game piece in a cosmic cold war that could destroy her entire reality—and he really hadn’t seemed that important!

    It was nearly as foundationally-shattering to Akiha as the almost gleeful revelation of one of the strangers here as not merely the wife of the that near-twin she’d found, but also Shiki’s daughter . . .!

    (Yes, the part of her that was trained to be the Tohno heiress knew what the actually more important revelation was—but Akiha was also a teenage girl in love, and at the moment, fully reacting as one.)

    She wasn’t certain how much more of this she could stand—barely an hour ago, she’d been at school, before being abducted into an alien supercomputer, then a version of her world that included humans turning into the heads of giant robots, and now THIS . . .! Things were just changing too rapidly, and far too bizarrely, for her to keep up!

    That’s what happens when you decide to play “hero,” her Servant opined mentally. The smart ones learn to just roll with it. She tilted her head. Didn’t you say you’d studied your organisation’s files?

    Akiha had, but it was one thing to read words on a page, and quite another to experience such a thing as it happened to her. She felt profoundly grateful that Shiki, Hisui and Kohaku had endured theirs as well as they had—and even Tohsaka-san and Saber-san, too—

    The Tohno heiress resisted the urge to bury her face in her palm at the sudden realisation that she also likely owed the object of her search several apologies. Supernatural powers aside, he had said he originated on a world without them, and indeed, where her own was fictional. No doubt, his sense of disorientation regarding this kind of thing would’ve been far greater . . .

    So, you don’t want to kick him in the balls anymore?

    Reluctantly, Akiha admitted, I won’t say it isn’t still a temptation, but I think it would be in very poor taste for me to do so, after all the present revelations . . .

    Well, I’m still going to kick him in the balls when we find him, Hakuno warned. He broke my Nero.

    Doubtless, that would be a problem in the future—Akiha could feel the headache starting already . . .

    Seeking something to distract herself, Akiha focussed on the now-silent lecturer before her. He truly was almost identical—his skin tone was Caucasian rather than the smoky ash-grey of the half-drow, his hair a light chestnut brown rather than white (though the brown hair held streaks of grey in nearly exactly the same pattern that the druid’s had held sky-blue highlights). He was also both human and looked to be at least twenty kilos heavier—and all of that muscle, it appeared, once he’d removed the concealing coat.

    (It was quite warm out here, all of a sudden . . .)

    Aside from the weight, however, he looked very similar to the druid when he’d wished to appear fully human, and shape-shifted to do so. His eyes were the same deep shade of blue (making Akiha wonder if she’d see those gold flecks in them if she looked deeply enough), if rounded rather than almond shaped. His voice lacked the druid’s growling edge, but it was just as certain, and slightly deeper and more resonant thanks to his extra mass, vibrating against her bones when he got loud enough and sending an answering wave of goosebumps along her skin.

    It was a pity about the face, though—while Akiha was no expert on Western attractiveness standards, it was much plainer and less pleasing to her eyes than the druid’s had been. It made that muscular body such a waste . . .

    Sounds like someone has a crush, Master, Hakuno teased—or she seemed to be, given that her mental voice sounded as nonchalant as her speaking one.

    I DO NOT! Akiha fired back. My heart is long since spoken for . . .!

    (And that was why she was doing this, and why she had to succeed—she and Shiki needed that wish . . .!)

    The thought of him drew Akiha’s eyes opposite to their original target. Her face was hidden by the silken veil of her hair—straight and fine, and dark enough to look blue when the light struck it just so—which was terribly frustrating when the heiress wanted nothing more than to absorb every aspect of her face again.

    Akiha needed to know exactly who her mother was—!

    “All right,” Salvatore-san said as he stirred from his seeming trance. “I’m going to tell you what you need to keep him away from, or figure out a way to twist differently, if you want the plan to work—as well as a couple of ideas that might help you out.”

    “And his ideas usually do,” the older Emiya-san acknowledged. “Even the crazy ones.”

    In a voice that was even deeper than Salvatore-san’s, the only man present who was even larger than he was (and significantly so, at that) grunted, “Especially the crazy ones.”

    “Yeah, we’ve gotten that impression of our version, too,” the real Emiya-san (or at least, the one Akiha was used to dealing with) replied, before he paused, looking embarrassed. “Well, mostly, anyway—he did turn Saber into a dragon for a while.”

    “HE DID WHAT . . .?!” demanded more than one voice.
















    Writer's Notes: I didn't quite make it before midnight, I see - sorry.

    Then again, I hadn't planned on an entire CHAPTER of exposition, either . . .
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    Eyyyy this is useful exposition, we get a lot of things explained (also, the continued Trinity crossover continues to be fun; thanks for Ginny POV there). This ties a lot together and I hadn't considered it before. We've pointed at "Mythos Scion" before, but this is a very specific thing and needs consideration of how it ties into what else we know.

    So.
    “Erik would at least have a chance to see the Mythos’ incursion coming and have time to run. Or to dig in and try and make a stand, if he chose to.”
    Okay, so Prologue and other such events representing edition change are Mythos-related. And Titans are probably Mythos-tainted. That explains a lot about why interludes in Shattered Paths have been so eldritch. I'm unsure if the Zalgo on Titans always represented this or not, since they're pretty inhuman already. I suppose our Titanic threats are subsumed/corrupted/otherwise by their Mythos counterparts, at least mostly.
    Divine identities could be discarded, to be picked up by others
    This has [Be Cast Down] vibes, but does not actually seem to be directly related, though the two concepts seem like they might meet up. The Mantle is definitely something to keep a watch for.
    He found a realm where the Mythos was only ever fiction, and only ever would be
    I... don't know what/where this is. Waaaaait. The real world would qualify, certainly. Hmmm. Not sure what else that could be, it sort of fits with "tore away everything that ever connected him to his former identity".
    And one of the best counters to a Foreigner-class Servant is another Foreigner
    Right, we're either referencing MHXX or Abigail here, possibly both, or Godafrid himself.
    Again, the extremely short version is that their world has a defence system that the Mythos falls under—
    Counter Force things, presumably. Grands?
    but the portion of it specific to the Mythos was compromised to the point that it’s basically suicidal to invoke
    This is referring to ORT taking the Grand Foreigner spot? I was never quite sure how to interpret that, I'm unclear if there should be Grands outside the 7 standard classes, but it's what probably fits here.
    But their wayward friend might do, with a caveat: there’s a very thin line between his becoming what they need, and what the Mythos wants
    his tells us this is Godafrid, not Abigail or MHXX, right. So he didn't get annihilated because he's also a relevant tool for the job.
    “Oh, that’s defined as a ‘perk,’ really,” Luna said helpfully, her tone of voice distinctly airy. “Galen loves to watch his wife move, you see—but she loves to watch him dream.
    It's so cuuuute.

    So, we have a pretty-direct confirmation that we're pointing towards Grand Foreigner Godafrid in some fashion, which is certainly risky, but yeah. This roughly tracks with why Godafrid both has hostile eldritch text following him, and internal eldritch effects that spook others. ...I am definitely going to need to reread at least Golden Opportunities and cross-reference that more, knowing that Outer Gods are the primary threat is relevant. Then I have to think about how this ties back to what's going on in DOA-land, though to some extent it doesn't have to, this is sort of overarching plot, though it feels like it may matter sooner than we would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xamusel View Post
    Technically, you made it to 9:13 PM, at least over in the West Coast of the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    Eyyyy this is useful exposition, we get a lot of things explained (also, the continued Trinity crossover continues to be fun; thanks for Ginny POV there).
    You're welcome. It is surprisingly fun.



    This ties a lot together and I hadn't considered it before.
    And I was worried I was being too obvious . . .


    We've pointed at "Mythos Scion" before, but this is a very specific thing and needs consideration of how it ties into what else we know.

    So.


    Okay, so Prologue and other such events representing edition change are Mythos-related. And Titans are probably Mythos-tainted. That explains a lot about why interludes in Shattered Paths have been so eldritch. I'm unsure if the Zalgo on Titans always represented this or not, since they're pretty inhuman already. I suppose our Titanic threats are subsumed/corrupted/otherwise by their Mythos counterparts, at least mostly.
    Canonically, the Mythos' relationship with/to the Titans is . . . Murky. To quote Masks of the Mythos:


    "What is the Mythos? In short, it is a loose association of alien entities beyond comprehension, and its very existence alters The World. These beings are neither Gods nor Titans. In Masks of the Mythos, they exist in another dimension. That otherness, that distortion, swirls around them and expresses on the divine wavelength. At first glance, it seems this Mythos world has little meaning. It is full of beings, Gods, and Old Ones that do not require worshipers and are generally uninterested in humans, the plight of humanity or any of its related affairs — aside from an active few . . . This otherness, while not of their own doing, causes the creatures and those touched by the Mythos to disrupt our universe, breaking the natural order and laws of reality. Think of it as a clash between matter and anti-matter with fewer explosions and more unpredictable side effects. This creates the ability to find meaning in everything, and one’s place inside it.

    The Mythos is not an evil or enemy pantheon to be battled by bastions of the light, but rather a traveler into this dimension and these planets. Its creatures are boundless. Their Scions’ otherness disrupts non-Mythos Scions by destroying the very Fate that fuels their actions. What makes a hero? The legend, the tales woven into history about them, or the actual acts? Mythos Scions illuminate that moral quandary."



    . . . In other words, they're a "pantheon" only in the loosest sense, and as liable to work against each other as cooperatively - more so, really. The only thing they all agree on (in principle, anyway) is that the "blind, idiot god" needs to STAY asleep and dreaming.

    And more specifically . . .



    "TITANS VS. THE OLD ONES

    Titans and titanspawn differ significantly from Old Ones. Both have primordial, pre-human roots, and both stand as outsiders compared to the mythic realm of Gods and Heroes. But while Titans are bound to The World and its elemental nature, Old Ones stem from cosmic forces outside any earthly understanding. Titans often represent a fierce natural order, possibly violent, but not malevolent. Mere contact with Old Ones begins to unravel such earthly notions of balance, elemental structure, and permanence in The World. Humans often regard Old Ones as Gods because they have no other framework in which to place them. Any divinity humans perceive is just an illusion to preserve the boundaries of fragile and finite minds.

    Mythos entities share many qualities that are ascribed to Titans. They have ancient, primordial origins that predate human myths. They appear to be in conflict with the precepts of religion and undermine the notion of pantheons entangled in the machinations of humanity. The term “monster” describes them more accurately than Gods. But the difference is that Mythos entities are not a counterweight to balance the mythic reality of Gods. They are not sides of the same coin; they are an entirely different currency made of alien metals. Unlike Titans, Mythos entities are not trapped or suppressed by Gods, and are not dependent on them. The very existence of Mythos beings threatens the tenets of traditional pantheons.

    Mythos entities may find opportunities to exploit Titans and titanspawn to further their particular goals. Mythos creatures often find temporary value in human worship and adoration, usually for some secondary strategic purpose. They may see the fear and power Titans have over humanity as a tool for manipulating earthly realms, in the way a gardener uses pesticides and fertilizer to shape a landscape. Mythos entities that revel in chaos, like Nyarlathotep, could also exploit the relationship between Gods and Titans to sow confusion and disorder. Titanomachy is a tempting plaything for those who might benefit from disrupted equilibrium."




    . . . Now, I've no idea what RanmaBushiko might or might not plan to do with Ymir; Zurvan's general nature and current state, however, is certainly something that the more malevolent Mythos entities might find useful . . .

    And it ties into the nature of the Throne . . .


    This has [Be Cast Down] vibes, but does not actually seem to be directly related, though the two concepts seem like they might meet up. The Mantle is definitely something to keep a watch for.
    Quite - because the Mythos wants Frid to reassume it, so they can at least punish him, or figure out a way to get somebody else to do it in a way that's useful to them.

    And as I mentioned earlier, the Arthurian book also uses Mantles as a way to describe the key players. This means, in theory, that Arturia or Mordred could shed their identities, under the right circumstances (and paradigms) - just an idle thought.


    I... don't know what/where this is. Waaaaait. The real world would qualify, certainly. Hmmm. Not sure what else that could be, it sort of fits with "tore away everything that ever connected him to his former identity".
    Got it in one - the one place he presumed he'd be safe . . .


    Counter Force things, presumably. Grands?
    Gaia or Alaya, yes.


    This is referring to ORT taking the Grand Foreigner spot? I was never quite sure how to interpret that, I'm unclear if there should be Grands outside the 7 standard classes, but it's what probably fits here.
    Again, got it in one - in hacking the Throne, the position exists. More, it will exist, and it has existed - and while ORT may have been defeated, it's still recorded as holding the title.

    That's not a position either Gaia or Alaya can afford to allow - so an alternative that's more Earth/human-friendly is welcome.


    his tells us this is Godafrid, not Abigail or MHXX, right. So he didn't get annihilated because he's also a relevant tool for the job.
    Yeah - neither destroys anything they can use, after all. Whether the thing in question would want them to is irrelevant.


    It's so cuuuute.
    Even after all these years, Luna remains herself.

    . . . Or were you referring to Takara and Galen's relationship . . .?


    So, we have a pretty-direct confirmation that we're pointing towards Grand Foreigner Godafrid in some fashion, which is certainly risky, but yeah. This roughly tracks with why Godafrid both has hostile eldritch text following him, and internal eldritch effects that spook others. ...I am definitely going to need to reread at least Golden Opportunities and cross-reference that more, knowing that Outer Gods are the primary threat is relevant.
    I will point out one plotline that RB was at least attempting to talk me out of, but got a reference in that chapter. You need to know something about "indie games" to get it, but consider my habit of using voice actors, and ask yourself, "Gold is a shade of what . . .?"



    Then I have to think about how this ties back to what's going on in DOA-land, though to some extent it doesn't have to, this is sort of overarching plot, though it feels like it may matter sooner than we would think.
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    And I was worried I was being too obvious . . .
    I have the advantage/disadvantage of having read most of the speculative "thinking about doing X" things, so keeping track of what is/isn't included sometimes gets funny. That Godafrid had something Foreigner-related going on internally seemed pretty clear, but I had like zero chance of tying that into Krampus reincarnating/spiting the Mythos, and definitely not into Kurai's origin. I think I was treating "Mythos Scion" as a speculative/abandoned idea (or an angle to consider that isn't confirmed) and was handwaving a lot of Godafrid's weirdness as "he's an SI, it's metanarrative" in relation to the "Grand Foreigner" approach. With this explained it seems obvious in hindsight; it's a much more internally-consistent in-universe explanation, which is really cool.

    Canonically, the Mythos' relationship with/to the Titans is . . . Murky.
    Okay, I may be reading too much into it then. I was assuming that if the edition change was started by the Mythos, the Titans freed/updated in the process were warped somehow, but you're implying here that they're mostly independent problems.
    Mythos entities may find opportunities to exploit Titans and titanspawn to further their particular goals.
    This sorta thing.

    . . . Now, I've no idea what RanmaBushiko might or might not plan to do with Ymir; Zurvan's general nature and current state, however, is certainly something that the more malevolent Mythos entities might find useful . . .

    And it ties into the nature of the Throne . . .
    Mantles do seem like things that might be on the Throne; very similar to Demi/Pseudo-Servants. Obviously Zurvan using Angra has specific implications.

    Even after all these years, Luna remains herself.
    . . . Or were you referring to Takara and Galen's relationship . . .?
    Yes (but mostly the latter)

    I will point out one plotline that RB was at least attempting to talk me out of, but got a reference in that chapter. You need to know something about "indie games" to get it, but consider my habit of using voice actors, and ask yourself, "Gold is a shade of what . . .?"
    "something about indie games" is very broad. Indie games, yellow, ??? voice actor, ??? reference in chapter. It's fairly specific since there's isn't a ton of overlap in japanese video game VA and indie game VA, but not much stands reading through Akiha/Hakunon/Chikagi/Zack/Nero/Kasumi VAs. Now, if we're making some reference to The King in Yellow ?Being referenced in Vampire Survivors? that doesn't seem like it has VA-relationship, but it DOES track with "the obvious vampire castle", so I'm going to go with that. It's a mainstream enough indie game that pointing at "something about indie games" is a good hint.

    Yes.
    Aiiiiiight. So, we need to worry about Mythos in
    • Nero (getting splintered by the chaos between worlds may have side effects)
    • MindWaveZ (his Dark Ranger powers likely relate to Krampus's discarded Mantle, especially since they were something Godafrid could take up)
    • Gold Ranger powers (kinda unlikely in comparison, but also could be Mantle-related. Seeing "I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort it must’ve taken to get the Seldarine to do their dirty work" makes me worry a bit about gifts, + I just made an association to the King in Yellow, so this could have some strings attached. However, you previously referred to the Morphin' Grid as holding back Mythos influence, though haven't explicitly canonized it, so that seems a bit unlikely)
    • Angra as Avenger (?piggybacking to Zurvan?) in relation to general darkness (Island? MindWaveZ? Feels a bit backwards if MindWaveZ has the Mantle/is Zurvan's downfall, but we have a lot of people fighting each other, could happen)
    • Abigail (not yet introduced, may or may not be)
    • Prelati (duh, Cthulhu related; I do need to read Strange Fake stilll)
    • ???? (I am not considering DOA/GI Joe characters very deeply, I don't know them well; depending on the nature of the world this is probably a mistake)

    and you're noting that there are likely distinct Mythos factions with different influences (i.e. Hastur and Cthulhu do not get along, Great Old Ones and Outer Gods are fairly distinct groups)

    Abigail is only going to be un-canon, I think, if I don't go with my plan to make Frid the Throne's (future) "Grand Foreigner" candidate in order to keep ORT out;
    Confirrrrmed (I'm dumb you explicitly quoted 3/4 of the Abigail section at us in Interlude - Fraying Threads, that should have told me this was confirmed last week)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    I have the advantage/disadvantage of having read most of the speculative "thinking about doing X" things, so keeping track of what is/isn't included sometimes gets funny. That Godafrid had something Foreigner-related going on internally seemed pretty clear, but I had like zero chance of tying that into Krampus reincarnating/spiting the Mythos, and definitely not into Kurai's origin. I think I was treating "Mythos Scion" as a speculative/abandoned idea (or an angle to consider that isn't confirmed) and was handwaving a lot of Godafrid's weirdness as "he's an SI, it's metanarrative" in relation to the "Grand Foreigner" approach. With this explained it seems obvious in hindsight; it's a much more internally-consistent in-universe explanation, which is really cool.
    Yeah - one reason I argued with myself to go this route, as much as I hate the mechanics of it. It was too perfect NOT to use.


    Okay, I may be reading too much into it then. I was assuming that if the edition change was started by the Mythos, the Titans freed/updated in the process were warped somehow, but you're implying here that they're mostly independent problems.

    This sorta thing.
    Yes.

    As I said, RB may or may not do something different, but thus far, I'm keeping things largely separated.


    Mantles do seem like things that might be on the Throne; very similar to Demi/Pseudo-Servants. Obviously Zurvan using Angra has specific implications.
    There's a bit of a misunderstanding, there. Mantles are for the Gods, and they're like specific identities a god assumes: Ares to Mars, for example, or Sita to Parvati (or Durga, or Kali) all being aspects of the same Goddess. What the Titans use (at least, in First Edition; I've not especially looked at Second, since I had no intention of running it) are called Avatars.

    In First Edition, the Titans are basically moon-sized entities that comprise and contain a single element or concept (Logos is the Titan of Order, for example, and one of the few that supports the Gods), and they think the World should reflect only them. Their Avatars are their dominant brain/personality, but not (usually - Angra Mainyu is an exception, as is the Titan of Light) their sole one. For example, the Titan of Fire, Muspelheim, had Surtur as its dominant Avatar, but Prometheus, Kagetsuchi, and others existed - they were simply not the ones in charge.

    Taking up a Mantle, by contrast, is a singular being assuming a new identity; it's closer to a Class Change (though not quite, as the identity of the Heroic Spirit doesn't really change if they're summoned in a different Class - again, usually).


    Yes (but mostly the latter)



    "something about indie games" is very broad. Indie games, yellow, ??? voice actor, ??? reference in chapter. It's fairly specific since there's isn't a ton of overlap in japanese video game VA and indie game VA, but not much stands reading through Akiha/Hakunon/Chikagi/Zack/Nero/Kasumi VAs. Now, if we're making some reference to The King in Yellow ?Being referenced in Vampire Survivors? that doesn't seem like it has VA-relationship, but it DOES track with "the obvious vampire castle", so I'm going to go with that. It's a mainstream enough indie game that pointing at "something about indie games" is a good hint.
    . . . And a bit of research shows that, in fact, there are a LOT of indie games that reference the King in Yellow specifically, and using the terms I gave you does NOT immediately pull the one I meant up on the initial list . . .

    OK - I'm just going to say that you don't have enough information yet to get the reference (because you DON'T). RB does, and he's largely trying to talk me out of it (or use a clone, because DOATEC and COBRA both have a history of doing that) - so it may not be relevant anyway . . .

    I still think it would be funny and/or horrifying, though.


    Aiiiiiight. So, we need to worry about Mythos in


    [*]Nero (getting splintered by the chaos between worlds may have side effects)
    Draco being the obvious worry . . .


    [*]MindWaveZ (his Dark Ranger powers likely relate to Krampus's discarded Mantle, especially since they were something Godafrid could take up)
    To clarify, the Dark Ranger powers are things Lord Zedd has a history of bestowing on others, and they're what Frid (and especially Krampus) would have a natural affinity for - being based around causing terror, and drawing strength from it. That was not a good idea, because having THOSE powers would draw him closer to reassuming the Krampus mantle. Hence, Trini's intervention.


    [*]Gold Ranger powers (kinda unlikely in comparison, but also could be Mantle-related.
    The primary worry there is "Gold = Yellow," which puts a specific member of the Mythos closer to his orbit. And while Krampus has no specific connection to this one, Frid has several points of affinity . . .


    Seeing "I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort it must’ve taken to get the Seldarine to do their dirty work" makes me worry a bit about gifts, + I just made an association to the King in Yellow, so this could have some strings attached. However, you previously referred to the Morphin' Grid as holding back Mythos influence, though haven't explicitly canonized it, so that seems a bit unlikely)
    It makes it possible, but not likely, yes - that's the hope, at least.


    [*]Angra as Avenger (?piggybacking to Zurvan?) in relation to general darkness (Island? MindWaveZ? Feels a bit backwards if MindWaveZ has the Mantle/is Zurvan's downfall, but we have a lot of people fighting each other, could happen)
    . . . It is somewhat amusing that the Fate version of Angra would very much be a Dark Ranger, now that I think about it . . .


    [*]Abigail (not yet introduced, may or may not be)
    We shall see.


    [*]Prelati (duh, Cthulhu related; I do need to read Strange Fake stilll)
    Or watch it, yes - and me, too.

    Otherwise, she did seem appropriate for a recurring Works' antagonist/enemy (or of Frid's, specifically), given things. And I'd rather deal with her than Kiara . . .


    [*]???? (I am not considering DOA/GI Joe characters very deeply, I don't know them well; depending on the nature of the world this is probably a mistake)
    The Hasbro cartoons covered a lot - the Egyptian pantheon is apparently an extant thing in G.I. JOE, for example - as is the Lady of the Lake and Excalibur. Also time travel, so that Sgt. Slaughter can give rise to the legends of Hercules . . .

    And that's without going into certain comic book claims that the Thirteen Primes of the Transformers were also the Olympians . . .

    (Huh - the Olympians as machine gods, you say . . .? Where have I heard that before . . .? )


    and you're noting that there are likely distinct Mythos factions with different influences (i.e. Hastur and Cthulhu do not get along, Great Old Ones and Outer Gods are fairly distinct groups)
    They are - though popular culture tends to equate one with the other, they VERY MUCH aren't the same. The Great Old Ones (such as Cthulhu and Hastur) are worshippers of the Outer Gods (Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath, Azazoth, etc.). While Scion gives them more or less equal standing (which, given the nature of that world, actually makes a sort of sense), the power scale and dynamic in Lovecraft is DRAMATICALLY different. And that doesn't even include things like the Deep Ones or ghouls, which are lesser still.

    It's also worth pointing out that, despite Cthulhu's popularity, the author himself apparently considered Yog-Sothoth the primary focus of his work; he referred to it as the "Yog-Sothoth Cycle," and sorcery as "Yog-Sothothery." And, The Dunwich Horror aside, Yog-Sothoth was conceived as a somewhat neutral force - its powers could be invoked to protect oneself from lesser Mythos entities (which is most of them), and one of its incarnations, as met by Randolph Carter, was even benevolent towards humanity (inasmuch as a neutral entity can be, anyway).

    Abigail's particular aspect doesn't seem to be - using the name "Sut-Typhon" certainly implies not, given the Egyptian and Greek references - but it's worth noting that the primary source says otherwise, eh . . .?



    Confirrrrmed (I'm dumb you explicitly quoted 3/4 of the Abigail section at us in Interlude - Fraying Threads, that should have told me this was confirmed last week)
    Pretty much, yes. Abigail's inclusion (or not) didn't make any of the rest of it invalid.

    It will be probably handled differently, if/when she shows up, though, because she's probably not setting up the Morphin Grid as a countermeasure to the Mythos . . .? It's still kind of tempting, because the "normals" among the Works could use the power-up - but having written up characters, now, I'm also noting limitations to the system that would be frustrating to deal with regularly.
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    Chapter 20 – Of God(desse)s and Monsters

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    Takara loved to watch Galen imagine—to observe the lights flash behind his eyes like fireworks, as ideas were born, tested, twisted and adapted into different shapes, and ultimately discarded or implemented. It was like watching an entire universe erupt into being, a handful of stars at a time. Learning Legilimency to the degree she had made it even better, because she could then literally see the ideas come to life, shifting and changing as he sought flaws or other possibilities . . .

    (It reminded her of that American Sherlock Holmes movie with Iron Man, which was one of many movies that she was looking forward to being able to see again . . . Eventually.)

    This was different, however. The entire world wasn’t spinning around, this time. Instead, phantom figures were appearing and disappearing, but always centred around a place; a snow-covered wood, glittering under the moonlit sky, but whose winding trail led into an enclosed, fathomless darkness—

    Snow crunched from within the depths. First a single sound, then a pattern, in a stalking rhythm—and despite herself, Takara tensed as figures began emerging from the trees.

    The shadows that emerged first were low and quadrupedal, so black that without the snow to contrast against (and, it had to be admitted, the baleful fire burning in their eyes), they would be invisible in the darkness. Long-limbed and muscular, they fit her idea of the Wizarding World’s “Grim” perfectly, accompanied by a warning rumble of thunder—or was that the creatures . . .? Though as far as calling any of them a “black dog” went, as per folklore, they bore as much resemblance to a dog, even the pictures she’d been shown of an “Irish wolfhound,” as a coyote did to a dire wolf.

    (The latter, of course, being something that she was very familiar with).

    The beasts spread out as they approached, in preparation to surround her—and as she fixed on them, trying to keep her awareness on all of them at once, their shapes changed. Whether it was their movements, the low light, or some other factor, their canid shapes seemed to warp in her vision, becoming a collection of disturbingly-angled forms that actually caused her eyes to water—

    Takara whirled at the sudden hand on her shoulder, bracing to defend herself.

    “The Hounds of Tindalos,” Hermione said solemnly, otherwise ignoring Takara’s near-attack, “aren’t something you should look at for too long. Or at all, really.”

    “The Hounds of what?” Takara demanded.

    “Extradimensional creatures that hunt people who meddle with time,” her wife answered. “One of the things adopted into the Lovecraft Mythos . . . And a ‘natural’ evolution of a faerie hunting hound, if you happen to be a Mythos entity who was derived from the legends of the Wild Hunt.” Hermione sniffed disapprovingly. “There is, of course, nothing natural about it—but that’s rather the point, isn’t it?”

    “Ah,” Takara nodded in understanding. “It’s this ‘Mythos’’ twisted mockery of what the Wild Hunt is, then.”

    “And what Krampus became, at the end, before mutilating himself on an existential level to escape it,” Hermione confirmed. She frowned. “And now, Galen is trying to figure out how far he can push Krampus’ themes and motifs—how much is safe to allow Fate access to, and in what forms—before it becomes just sliding back into their clutches.”

    The vampire witch’s frown deepened as she concluded grimly, “And that’s not going to be easy . . .

    Takara frowned herself. “. . . What am I missing, Hermione?”

    “The second edition of the Scion game changed the nature of the ‘Virtues’ that defined each pantheon,” was the quiet answer. “They were still driving forces of a character, still potentially as much a weakness as a strength—but now, they functioned more like the ‘Humanity’ scale in Vampire: The Masquerade.

    Takara winced inwardly. They’d played that once, for Halloween.

    Only once.

    “In fact, ‘Humanity,’ or ‘Luminous’, as it’s more often called, is one side of the Mythos’ Virtue balance,” Hermione added. “Its opposite, however, is ‘Nihilism’—as the book puts it, ‘Mythos Scions know humanity’s efforts are all in vain. Whether they’re doomed or ascend to Godhood, everything is fruitless. Yet, there is a drive for knowledge to fight against the hopelessness that the next discovery may change the course of the universe or provide one more good day . . .’


    “And their version of Galen,” she concluded direly, “is much closer to the alternate whose knowledge he accessed.”

    Takara winced. “I’m surprised he’s inclined to do anything heroic, then—much less what he already has.

    She’d rather deal with Gabrielle Delacour for the rest of the year than go through that struggle again . . .

    “This version’s not quite that old and worn down yet,” Hermione assured her, “and working with some of his heroes to be of use has helped . . .” She frowned again. “But he doesn’t really remember his most heroic act, and anything he does remember trying has had . . .” She hesitated, then settled on “Mixed results.

    “So, we’re basically dealing with Galen in a depressive mood, here,” Takara concluded. “Maybe one of the bad ones, if not quite his worst—and being that way makes him really susceptible to the Mythos.”

    “Precisely,” Hermione agreed. “I’ve been thinking that summoning an appropriate Servant, because they tend to have a shaping effect on their Masters—”

    “Really?” Takara said, surprised and somewhat confused. “I can’t say I . . .”

    She trailed off at Hermione’s raised eyebrow and reconsidered her life since meeting her Servant.

    “. . . Never mind,” she muttered.

    It said something profound about Takara’s level of embarrassment that she was blushing, when she technically didn’t have a body right now.

    “Servants alter their Master’s fate, always,” Hermione continued, “Even independent of the Holy Grail War’s circumstances, their spiritual weight and presence is just too massive not to. And while this potential Master is more resilient in that area than a bog-standard human, at this moment, that’s what he is. It’s still possible to alter his foundation, if only because he thinks it ought to be.” She sighed. “Unfortunately, the most easily accessible Servants for him, if we’re going by compatibility rather than catalyst summoning, are most likely to turn him into—well, that.

    She gestured to the woods, and a sudden, rhythmic thumping drew Takara’s attention.

    The first to emerge were horses, bearing ominously cloaked riders who, as with the hounds before, warped as she watched into strangely angled and literally painful-to-look-at things, their cloaks flapping like leathery wings in a suddenly howling wind.

    “Stories of the Wild Hunt,” Hermione murmured, almost to herself, “to some extent, were meant to represent the violent winds that often stormed through the countryside in the dark of the night, and the fear they engendered . . .”

    She would know, Takara supposed—though really, it was Galen who was the folklore expert among their fami—

    Storms . . .?” Takara said carefully, suddenly drawing connections to her husband that she very much did not like.

    Before Hermione could do more than glance at her, however, their attention was drawn by another thump, much louder than before—and stronger, sending vibrations she could feel through the ground. And then another, and another, forming a far more dire-sounding rhythm than the procession of horses. Something was coming, and it was much bigger than the mounted riders . . .

    Takara’s first impression was that the trees were moving. Then she realised that what she was seeing was no crown of branches, but a rack of spiralling, goat-like horns, topping a face that remained hidden by the darkness in the depths of the wood. The first ground-based sight was of a hoof—cloven, unlike the horses, and at least the size of one of those “Clydesdale horses” she’d seen pictures of. Coarse fur the colour of dirty snow covered the genuinely massive (and muscular) leg that the hoof was attached to. As more of the figure emerged into the relative light, she saw the tip of a staff slam the ground, made of ash wood and covered in Futhark runes that ran up its length (and she inwardly thanked Neville, Galen and Hermione for her ability to recognise those details).

    Takara traced the staff’s length, trying to decipher the runes as Hermione murmured “Lćvateinn—the ‘wounding twig . . .’

    As a corner of her mind noted that Hermione knew what it was, the Japanese witch’s eyes were momentarily drawn to the creature’s torso—which had a gorilla’s muscle definition and general build, but on a scale more appropriate to Rubeus Hagrid. In fact, just going by sight and memory, it was even possible that Hagrid would be smaller—and a part of her shivered at the thought.

    Certainly, the creature’s hand was bigger than her head, with fingers the size of pepper grinders; and tipped with outright talons that were nearly as long and thick as the digits they sprouted from. Its grip on the staff tightened, and there was a rasp of steel being unsheathed before blue flame ignited along the contours of a sword—

    Her vision was suddenly filled with Hermione’s face—and Takara drew back, startled.

    Hey—what are you doing . . .?”

    Takara tried to evade the other witch, but Hermione resolutely followed, obstructing the view as she replied.

    Every God, regardless of their affinities, gains an Epic Appearance ranking of one upon their apotheosis; a sign that they’re beyond what’s humanly possible in that area—and the category isn’t limited to beauty.” Hermione stared at Takara as if trying to hypnotise her (or maybe burn a hole through her skull through sheer intensity). “And given who he is—do you really want to see Galen’s face twisted into that kind of nightmare . . .?

    “No,” Takara replied instantly—and then, without thinking about it, added, “but I’d sure like to see if I can rip those horns off and mount them on my wall.”

    Now it was Hermione’s turn to look startled—and then, exasperated.

    “Every now and then, I forget that you’re a battle junkie underneath that geisha doll exterior,” she muttered.

    “I like to challenge myself,” Takara countered with a shrug. “And I prefer physical ones to intellectual ones, if I have a choice. Besides, you enjoy winning a fight, too, especially if it’s a tough one . . .” She smiled. “And regardless, you love me anyway.”

    Hermione hummed in acknowledgment of the point. “You and Galen are entirely too similar, sometimes . . .”

    “We’ve all had that thought—we just occasionally swap the names around,” Takara fired back.

    “True,” Hermione sighed. “And the same can be said of Galen and this ‘Frid’ person, which makes all these failures terribly frustrating—it should not be this hard . . .”

    Because the environment depicted around them hadn’t been idle while the witches had been talking. The Wild Hunt and its leader were surrounded by flickering images that popped in and out of existence as Galen’s imagination conjured various scenarios—and, of course, Servants. Some, Takara recognised from her own experience; she hadn’t seen Arturia Pendragon’s face for decades, for example, but it wasn’t one she’d forget—and others, she knew by helping the Einzberns develop their “Holy Grail War” game and figurines.

    (Takara still wasn’t quite sure that she understood Galen’s thrill of seeing her model “Ryogi Shiki,” but she had liked the jacket, even though red wasn’t usually her colour . . .)

    Others, however, were complete strangers to her.

    “An Egyptian bunnygirl . . .?” she demanded.

    Hermione snorted. “Nitocris would vehemently refute the idea, and claim you were disrespecting her as a Pharaoh . . .” She sighed. “Regrettably, while she’s actually a very nice young woman, she’s entirely unsuitable for this—she’s too dangerous to risk summoning.”

    “Dangerous?” Takara repeated. “Dangerous how?

    “Because in the Lovecraft Mythos, Nitocris is the Queen of the Ghoul race,” Hermione said grimly. “And in the expanded canon, her mirror—which this Nitocris uses as her Noble Phantasm—is a means of summoning the herald of the Outer Gods.”

    And since we’re trying to avoid anything linking to them . . .

    Takara nodded in understanding—then paused. “How ‘expanded’ is this Mythos?” she asked carefully.

    “More than most people would think,” Hermione grumbled, “which makes making certain that there’s no easy way to for them to link back—and even so, Lovecraft borrowed liberally from various stories and other mythologies, himself. We can’t use any of the Babylonian Servants, for example, because one of their gods at least shares the name of the patron god of the Deep Ones . . .”

    “That’s a shame,” Takara admitted. “Rin looked good dressed up as Ishtar, and Ereshkigal.”

    “I imagine their Rin might not be so keen on enduring a long-term possession in order to make that work, anyways,” Hermione countered dryly. “And Ereshkigal would be even more dangerous, because she’s conceptually almost identical to the Queen of Helheim; we don’t want him near anything that ties to Krampus, either, just as much as the Mythos.

    “Which,” her wife sighed, “means no Norse Servants, absolutely no Santa Servants, no Avengers in addition to no Foreigners—”

    “Aren’t Avengers usually evil?” Takara questioned.

    “Not always or entirely,” Hermione said. “The problem is, while this ‘Frid’ version of Galen is likely not as nihilistic as the older one ours assimilated, he’s likely much closer to it than Galen was, pre-integration. This one hasn’t had all the psychic surgery and Occlumency training that he has—so in terms of a compatibility summon . . .”

    “He’s more likely to wind up with something like an Avenger than something else,” Takara finished.

    “Maybe not quite so bad,” Hermione admitted, her tone suggesting that she didn’t fully believe that herself. “He’s doing ‘superhero’ work with some of his heroes, and you know he’d enjoy that—but it also sounds like he’s not doing particularly well at it, or succeeding in spite of his efforts, and you know how that would affect him . . .” She shrugged. “It’s why I was looking at Elizabeth Báthory—”

    “I wondered why she was involved,” Takara interrupted. Much like Arturia, there were simply too many Elizabeth Servants to not recognise her.

    “Because for all her flaws, her younger self has the hopeful mindset he’d need,” Hermione responded. “And with her connections to Halloween, that would satisfy Fate—since he’d be bound to a holiday, but not Christmas, as Krampus is. Which is the sort of thing we’re looking for, if we want him on a similar but not identical path in order for him to reach ‘Grand Foreigner’ status.”

    “. . . All right, that sounds like a good plan,” Takara allowed. “And you gave up on it because . . .?”

    “Because even when she’s not Carmilla, Elizabeth is still an Anti-Hero—and that’s a dangerous potential influence,” Hermione said. “It makes it easier to slide into cosmic horror, and it’s already hard enough trying to decide how to brush against that milieu for the ‘Foreigner’ aspect without diving in wholeheartedly. Which is a pity, because there are several versions of Elizabeth who would likely be quite easy for him to work with . . .Then again, there’s also no guarantee that the Elizabeth summoned would have the character development she gained through associating with Hakuno Kishinami and Ritsuka Fujimaru—but on the other hand, she shouldn’t have had character development when dealing with Fujimaru, either . . .”

    The vampire witch shook her head. “Elizabeth is an odd case as a Servant, and therefore to be used only as a last resort.”

    “All right,” Takara allowed, deciding that the whole thing was well above her head. Instead, she focussed on a part that was obviously important that she might understand without a year-long study into the subject. As such, she asked, “What does ‘cosmic horror’ mean, exactly?”

    “A lot of things,” Galen answered from behind her, “but the underlying theme is that the universe doesn’t care—that humanity is ultimately nothing in the face of the vast, unknowable abyss of space.” Takara turned, and beheld his grim expression as he said, “Half the time, the damage done to humans is entirely unintentional—unnoticed, even; any more than we pay attention to every ant we step on, or every cell that dies in our bodies. ‘Evil’ or ‘malevolence’ isn’t really applicable to cosmic horror in general, lest it become something else—though there are examples where it absolutely does.

    “All in all,” he concluded, “not a recommended environment for a nihilist, actual or potential.”

    Takara had never delved as deeply into her husband’s mind as Hermione had. Even ignoring her wife’s natural ability for it, the Japanese witch's Legilimency had never really been up to snuff, in the event Galen truly wanted to keep her out—but she didn’t really need it. She'd recently seen exactly what Galen would’ve been like without magical intervention, without hope . . .

    “No,” she agreed. “No, it’s not.

    “Unfortunately,” Hermione sighed, “Foreigner Servants, by definition, have to have a connection to an entity ‘from outside of human consciousness,’ or be ‘a being that overturns the laws of the world,’ as it’s variously defined.”

    Takara turned to Galen. “You said that other candidates didn’t meet the parameters—who are we talking about, and how?”

    “Mostly aliens, like the versions of Arturia from the ‘Servantverse’ reality,” Galen said. He gestured, as an image appeared. “This is ‘Mysterious Heroine XX,’ as she calls herself: a Foreigner-class Servant from a different universe and protected by a source that’s ‘the exact opposite’ of what the ‘Existence Outside the Domain’ Skill is meant to symbolise—but she still has it, because all Foreigners do. However, it’s only at D-rank, and most of the Mythos-based Foreigners are B-ranked and up.”

    “What’s the Skill for, exactly?” Takara asked, thinking.

    “In-game, it’s a protection against instant death effects,” Galen said. “Conceptually, however, it symbolises a being that descended to Earth from the dark, unknowable void of space—or how alien you are to reality, to look at it another way.” He scowled, before adding grudgingly, “And a Grand Foreigner would have to have a rating as high as it goes.”

    “But you can get the same effect from the opposite source,” Takara mused, almost to herself. “Can we get that done, and then just figure out a way to boost it? So that this version of you doesn’t end up having to tie himself to some eldritch horror . . .?”

    A hollow chuckle emerged from Hermione.

    “I didn’t think you even knew the word ‘eldritch,’” she teased.

    “With vocabularies and tastes for old books like you two have?” Takara fired back in a matching tone. “I know a lot of old English words that nobody really uses anym—”

    The sky exploded.

    Then it did so again, and again, as fireworks went off in rapid succession in the night sky, flooding it with a riot of colours.

    “You’ve solved it!” Hermione said eagerly, looking at Galen.

    Takara’s the genius,” Galen corrected, and ignoring her when she scoffed. “And I don’t know if Ilyasviel can access that set of Servants, but there is a technically ‘eldritch power’ that he could be connected to which isn’t the Mythos . . .”

    Hermione’s eyes widened. “One of the believed sources of the word being ‘elf’—you’re thinking of directing them to summon one of the Faerie Servants?”

    “If it’s possible, anyway—though which one is still up for debate,” Galen agreed. “In theory, Scion’s force of Fate should even help, here; he’s had contact with the Seldarine, which while not quite faeries as the game defines them, absolutely have faerie roots. So, it would be establishing a pattern. . .

    “Which it would want to reinforce!” Hermione finished. “Brilliant!”

    “Not so brilliant,” Galen admitted. “A lot of them are problematic—Morgan, for example, is another Queen of Helheim echo, with an even stronger ‘winter’ theme—to say nothing of Arturia’s likely feelings on the matter—and let’s not think too hard about Kazuradrop . . .

    It said something about her relationships, Takara supposed, that she was able to identify both revulsion and terror in the shudder that ran through her spouses. Nothing healthy, probably, but it said something.

    “In any case, that’s one issue potentially sidestepped, and I think I’ve identified most of the major potential problems, otherwise,” he finished. “Shall we go and give them the good news?”

    “Do we have time for me to fight that ‘Krampus,’ first . . .?” Takara inquired, only half joking.

    Battle junkie,” Hermione muttered under her breath—but she was smiling fondly as she did so.
















    Arvandor
    The Pool of Evergold

















    “YOU PICKED THE MORTAL . . .?!” Aphrodite screeched—and somehow, even that sounded incongruously melodious.

    Freya looked back at her, unintimidated.

    “And now, your island is free of corruption—in fact, its source has retreated off the planet entirely,” she replied coolly.

    “That’s not the POINT!” the Olympian insisted. “You didn’t help me . . .! In fact, you helped her!” She pointed at Hanali, demanding, “. . . So how do I know you’re going to play fair in this contest?”

    Both human and elven goddess drew back in affront.

    “I beg your pardon?” Hanali said, so coldly that each syllable should have fallen from her lips as snowflakes. Freya, on the other hand, quietly smouldered—literally, as smoke began rising from her suddenly gleaming golden hair, hand drifting towards the longsword at her hip . . .

    Visibly realising that she was challenging at least one goddess who was as entwined with war as with love, Aphrodite shrank back a bit.

    “I mean—well . . .”

    Darn it! She was usually able to charm her way out of things like this, but when dealing with women who had the same abilities . . .!

    Freya held her ice-blue eyes on the Olympian for a moment, before she withdrew her hand.

    “If the mortal fell, our contest is voided,” she said simply. “But I felt that he could weather what might befall if the darkness was released—that is what heroes do, is it not . . .?”

    “I guess . . .” Aphrodite admitted uncertainly.

    Really, in her experience, heroes did what they were told, or suffered terrible consequences—though she supposed that this would make the contest more interesting . . .

    Still, she needed to get an edge on the other two—and subtly . . .

    Gazing over her island—and if they asked, she was checking to make sure none of that icky darkness had stained anything—Aphrodite spotted something that hadn’t been there the last time she’d looked it over—a temple. And the mortal was heading there . . .

    It took every ounce of willpower the goddess had (which, honestly, wasn’t all that much) not to laugh triumphantly. Perfect! All it would take was one wish, question, or comment, and she would “have” to answer his “prayer”—and since it was her temple, she’d be honour-bound to make it impressive . . .

    And even better, all the other two could do was gripe about it!

    “Hey!” she said excitedly, leaning forward eagerly. “He’s awake . . .!

    And soon, Aphrodite would be able to make the winning move in this game, as soon as he gave her the slightest excuse . . .
















    Somewhere on the Venus Islands
    November 17, 2006

















    The overwhelming sight of “gold” and “yellow” faded from his consciousness into softer, more colour-neutral tones, like working one’s eyes up a sunbeam to its ultimate source. The crushing feeling of embrace lightened, its last flickers tingling across his skin like trailing fingertips. The smell of a young woman’s hair turned into the acrid scent of cold—and in the hazy, underwater feeling of not-quite-wakefulness, he heard a whisper like a death rattle.

    “Not yet . . .”

    In the haziness, it didn’t quite register—something else jolted him to full wakefulness.

    “A-CHOOO—OWWWW . . .!

    As a child, Frid had spent some years with sleeping with electroshock pads on his legs, to stimulate his weakened muscles. He’d never quite lost the sensation of what happened if you turned the setting up too high—the jolt and spasm was just too memorable, to say nothing of the pain . . .

    And after sneezing, he felt as though someone had stuck the pads all over his body—reserving the most for his head—and just maxed out the dial.

    Oh, supernatural healing, how I miss you . . .

    For once, Frid was in full agreement with his inner gremlin; Exalts healed four times faster than mortals as a baseline, even without Charms being involved. It wasn’t the full-on healing factor of his druid persona (which he’d apparently had access to, at one point), but the promise of pain going away faster would’ve been glorious right n—

    “I’m sorry—what?

    . . . Oh, fuck—did I say that out loud?

    “. . . What?” Frid replied, blinking rapidly, hoping that he could pass off whatever might’ve been overheard of his inner thoughts as resulting from a concussion.

    (Which he might actually have, honestly, given his headache—and wasn’t that a joy to contemplate . . .?)

    The speaker stepped into view—a lovely Japanese woman with eyes that reminded him of Cagalli Yula Athha from Gundam SEED (or Kohaku, but he tried really hard not to think about her).

    “You’re . . . Momiji-san, correct?” he asked, with genuine uncertainty. Not that he doubted her identity, but he literally knew nothing about her, and had no idea what to expect.

    She bowed. “Correct. And you are the owner of these islands, are you not?”

    “I think Mister Zack”—Frid still didn’t know his last name—“is the actual owner, but I’ve been put in charge of managing things here, yes.” He shook his head. “Not that I’ve been doing the best of jobs . . .”

    Momiji frowned. “Yes—I heard the explosions. And it appears that you were caught up in them, weren’t you? You were in fairly rough shape when you were brought to me.”

    ‘Brought?’” Frid repeated. “By whom?” He paused, looking at his surroundings. “And for that matter, where exactly are we . . .?”

    The layout suggested the interior of a Japanese shrine, but so far as Frid knew, there was no such building on the islands—and the islands weren’t in Japan to begin with.

    Had he been unconscious long enough to actually be transported out of the country . . .?! And if so, by whom? And for that matter, how? It wasn’t like he had a valid passport . . .

    You’re dealing with ninja clans and mega-corporations, pointed out the voice in the back of his head. Do you REALLY think that legality is an issue, here . . .?

    “Ah, the will of the island’s god, of course!” Momiji said hurriedly. “Why else would you have appeared at their shrine . . .?”

    “You mean ‘goddess,’ if I’m still on the Venus Islands, Momiji-san,” Frid said, gently but firmly. “I may have no idea why an archipelago in the South Pacific is named after a Roman deity, but I do know she is the epitome of feminine beauty, and is not someone to tolerate being disrespected, even unintentionally.”

    Huh—why did it feel like he was lying in a sunbeam, all of sudden . . .?

    (Also, wow—Momiji was a very obvious liar. Whatever her deal was, Frid guessed that “shinobi,” runaway or otherwise, wasn’t it.)

    “I apologise profusely for the offense,” Momiji said, bowing deeply. “Both to her—and to you, as you clearly have a deep faith in the goddess.”

    Truthfully, he largely preferred Athena when it came to the Olympian goddesses—but he wasn’t so stupid as to slight the others.

    Not exactly germane, right now, pointed out his inner bastard.

    “I suggest burning an offering at the earliest opportunity,” he said aloud. “Meanwhile, what brings you here, Momiji-san?

    “Training,” she admitted. “I come from a long line of miko, so I have a professional interest in this shrine.”

    “And have you checked into the resort yet?” Frid asked. “You are a guest here—I want to at least make sure you’re comfortable before I head back and see what the situation is.”

    (It was also possible that the likely concussion was making it hard to focus, but he wasn’t about to admit that . . .)

    “Very much so, Owner-san,” she assured him, before adding, “But I really think you shouldn’t leave. I’ve done what I can, but head wounds are tricky; you’re in no shape to—”

    “It’s my responsibility to see to our guests’ safety.” Frid said. “And my employees”—by which he meant Misaki—“are probably in a state of panic, as well.”

    “I admire your resolve,” she said kindly. “And I wish you luck.”

    “Thank you for being understanding, Momiji-san—and for your help.”

    After a beat of hesitation, Frid decided to risk a bow—and the expected dizzy spell, or outright fall, didn’t come. His head, in fact, felt much better for some reason.

    Good—we’re going to have enough problems . . .

    Wishing her farewell, Frid walked out—

    And then walked right back in.

    “Would you happen to know which way the resort is from here . . .?”
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    Ahhh, I was wondering how you were chaining the Fey into this. Another kind of alien. Now the question is how do you action Galen thinking that -> Godafrid summoning it.
    “All right,” Salvatore-san said as he stirred from his seeming trance. “I’m going to tell you what you need to keep him away from, or figure out a way to twist differently, if you want the plan to work—as well as a couple of ideas that might help you out.”
    One of the believed sources of the word being ‘elf’—you’re thinking of directing them to summon one of the Faerie Servants?
    One presumes if Ilya actually gets to answer a summon, she can act on suggestions, so that seems pretty likely. Otherwise they probably have to actually track Godafrid down, which is still implied to be troublesome... or can they just summon on his behalf somehow?

    Godafrid has also just gotten a blessing, though that seems likely to be of... questionable value, given who it's by/where he is. Impressive? Hmmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xamusel View Post
    That last line was golden​! Thanks for sharing with us.
    And oddly, not my original plan - but by that point, I just wanted it finished so I could post it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    Ahhh, I was wondering how you were chaining the Fey into this. Another kind of alien.
    Yup.


    Now the question is how do you action Galen thinking that -> Godafrid summoning it.
    Yeah - that is the tricky part . . . Well, that, and figuring out how to manage Castoria, since she seems the most-wanted.


    One presumes if Ilya actually gets to answer a summon, she can act on suggestions, so that seems pretty likely.
    Yeah - it just depends on whether or not the Grail system can ping things from pruned timelines. Chaldea's FATE system does work differently, after all.

    . . . Then again, Fate/apocrypha implies that the Grail system has functions nobody knows about (see: Ruler).


    Otherwise they probably have to actually track Godafrid down, which is still implied to be troublesome... or can they just summon on his behalf somehow?
    A good question.


    Godafrid has also just gotten a blessing, though that seems likely to be of... questionable value, given who it's by/where he is.
    Well, it might just be as simple as "He heals fast because he has to stay pretty" . . . Then again, I'm basing Aphrodite on Aqua from KonoSuba, so would she do something that useful . . .?



    Impressive? Hmmmmm.
    One of the endings I didn't use was Aphrodite pouting that she didn't get to be impressive, with something so simple . . .
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    You've got the right of it, man. No need to worry about that, Kieran.

    Anyway, no, I don't see Aphrodite being connected to Aqua in terms of basis for the Greco-Roman deity. I don't know why...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xamusel View Post
    You've got the right of it, man. No need to worry about that, Kieran.

    Anyway, no, I don't see Aphrodite being connected to Aqua in terms of basis for the Greco-Roman deity. I don't know why...
    No, sorry - I meant I'm basing her personality on Aqua, since they're kind of similar in attitude . . . (Aqua would have NO trouble fitting in amongst the Olympians, I think.)
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