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    Eh… I guess the idea is something like “the moon is humanity’s future; it’s MoonCancer’s job to help humanity entrust its future to the next stage; if you don’t accept the cycle of change, you get Moon Cancer” and that’s what the takeaway for the class and its increasingly unbefitting name is.

    All I can think now is that MoonCancers must’ve had a field day in Notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Wow, so not only are Mooncancer and Moon Cancer actually different things, they are also seemingly completely unrelated.
    KINOKO NASUUUUUU
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTKajin View Post
    I just did a brief read-through of the epilogue and I feel like Nasu really didn’t comment on MoonCancer… at all. OC3 seems entirely about Moon Cancer (an entirely new concept, albeit central to the themes of the chapter) and Archetypes, with MoonCancer the class being entirely incidental. I learned nothing about them.
    May as well use the OC to talk about something completely unrrlated to the whole concept of OC to make it worth something at least LOL.

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    Moon Cancer is basically Humanity turning into a literal cancer for the rest of the universe, that's why the code word for this OC is "Entrustment" - to learn to entrust the future to the next Prime Species, rather than stubbornly trying to remain on top no matter what and turn into a cancer that destroys everything else.

    It's basically a cautionary tale to not agree with the CHALDEAS when we reach Antarctica.
    Last edited by Garett; September 20th, 2024 at 07:40 AM.

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    OC3 should’ve ended with the class being renamed to MoonChemo.

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    I thought Nasu liked the idea of space locust humanity lol.

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    We should have had BB Dubai A3 be a crab girl hence literally Moon Cancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garett View Post
    Moon Cancer is basically Humanity turning into a literal cancer for the rest of the universe, that's why the code word for this OC is "Entrustment" - to learn to entrust the future to the next Prime Species, rather than stubbornly trying to remain on top no matter what and turn into a cancer that destroys everything else.

    It's basically a cautionary tale to not agree with the CHALDEAS when we reach Antarctica.
    Yeah, this whole chapter is super indirectly about CHALDEAS at every relevant layer. It really feels like its target audience is Petrikow even though he's seemingly not enjoying it.
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    Some pantheons are depicted as Tamamo, while others are only potentially Tamamo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GD3713 View Post
    We should have had BB Dubai A3 be a crab girl hence literally Moon Cancer
    Humanity was simply not yet ready for monster girl BB.

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    So what's the big bad/final boss in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garett View Post
    It's basically a cautionary tale to not agree with the CHALDEAS when we reach Antarctica.
    As random as this OC is, it should be the biggest hint towards the themes of Antarctica (no surprise there since Nasu wrote it). Basically what people were hoping OC would be in general, but so far it’s been pretty isolated. Paper Moon taught us everyone is an Alter Ego, cool. Id taught us not to hold grudges, cool. They’ve been enjoyable filler, but still filler. EoR had the virtue of setting up themes and plotlines for Part 2 as a whole, I feel like there is still something lacking with OC. Granted it’s mostly Paper Moon and I could go on about how Paper Moon is a bucket of missed opportunities, but Id also more or less caps off an arc that began in an event. It’s good but not quite relevant.

    Anyway, Higashide will deliver as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    So what's the big bad/final boss in the end?
    Moon Cancer (it looks sort of like the White Titan if it were a piece of paper)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    So what's the big bad/final boss in the end?
    Fate/Extra Record advertisement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    So what's the big bad/final boss in the end?
    Humanity itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Yeah, this whole chapter is super indirectly about CHALDEAS at every relevant layer. It really feels like its target audience is Petrikow even though he's seemingly not enjoying it.
    So what you’re saying is the real Elon is Marisbury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Yeah, this whole chapter is super indirectly about CHALDEAS at every relevant layer. It really feels like its target audience is Petrikow even though he's seemingly not enjoying it.
    Not surprising. It's a Chimera of Extra, Tsukihime, and SU merged grostequely that the underlying theme is obscured. The mention of Prez U is the only thing that made it visible.



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    Given its appearance, is it unreasonable to guess that Velber is the Moon Cancer of another alien species?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMeme View Post
    Given its appearance, is it unreasonable to guess that Velber is the Moon Cancer of another alien species?
    Given what little we know about Velber I’d be more inclined to think it was related to the Angels somehow

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    This is basically Nasu's take on the future from Getter Arc where humanity's insistence with remaining on top leads to the Getter Emperor and it's genocidal army literally killing everything that isn't 100% human.
    Spoiler:

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    DINO GETTER,FUCK YESS
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    So what happens with Eresh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Link0306 View Post
    So what happens with Eresh?
    Reduced to irrelevant mid boss

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