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Eh, Luck is the sort of thing that really depends on the HS in particular. I mean, Diarmuid could be a Saber, but his Luck is kind of terrible and that doesn't hurt his chances of getting in that class.
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A nice adaptation of Paris that you have there. I would think that his bow deserved to have some connection with Apollo, considering the legends around it, but the way you made it is fine too.
About D'Artagnan's parameters, the thing is, as he is supposed to be "weak" as a Heroic Spirit; I always had in mind to make him have just the bare minimum power to fill the requirements for the Saber-class. Now according to CM, the general standards for a Saber are the following.
STR: A
END: B
AGI: B
MGI: C
LCK: D
That gave me a good notion on how D'Artagnan should be. Still, his attributes are a little different than your regular knight, so I made the proper adjustments. As I commented before, D'Artagnan is the kind of guy that solves his problems with skills, finesse and a little bit of luck. Therefore, his AGI and LCK receive the A-Rank and one of the B-Rank parameters respectively. On the other hand, he does not rely on supernatural powers, so that lowest D-Rank goes to MGI. Since there is a common notion that a musketeer is inferior to a knight in terms of raw strength, his STR gets that C-Rank. By elimination, that last B-Rank remains on END. At last, in order to not seem so blatant that his stats originated from the CM's standards, I customized them a little bit by more by giving Rank-Down on MGI and adding a "+" to his AGI.
I know that it might be a little too much arbitrary, but as I said before, I always intended for him to be relatively weak. It was one of the core notions that I had in mind when I created him.
D'Artagan seems interesting to me. Like his NP, but think his stats make sense to me, for a relatively ordinary human.
Fun fact!
According to charamat, the "default" Strength for a Saber is A.
Now let's see:
Shirou's Saber: B
Kiritsugu's Saber: B
Rin's Saber: A
Sakura's Saber: A
Ayaka's Saber: B
Gawain: B+
Siegfried: B+
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Last edited by aldeayeah; February 9th, 2012 at 10:16 AM.
Not the baseline of 'A Heroic Spirit who qualifies as Saber'. It's of 'The container into which a Saber-class spirit is summoned'. There's a difference.
Container*HS's own parameters*Other factors (Master's prana supply etc.)
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It must be a pretty impressive container, considering that famous heroes such as Sigurd or Gawain actually bring it down.
*shrug* Apparently. (And you must admit that it's better than it would be if your original thought was right, with most of the Sabers not even qualifying for their own class ).
And I dunno, B+ is pretty damn good. Even if you're at that generally lower state, you can still burst to a very good A-rank, so it's not that much of a come-down from A. And even then, we're assuming that the baseline ranks are meant to equal the same ranks as with a fully summoned Heroic Spirit, which might not be the case. Probably is, but might not be.
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And then Paris face claim was Soi FongLaomedon - Avenging the House of Troy
Type: Anti-Unit
Rank: D (B)
Taking its name from the Trojan king whose grave was thought to protect Troy at the site of Paris' only true achievement in battle, this small bow is the only weapon Archer has any proficiency with whatsoever. While ordinarily a weak D ranked Noble Phantasm, upon successfully hitting a target with an arrow, the stricken area is physically marked with the royal insignia of Troy, a mark representing the grudge of a fallen kingdom against their aggressors. Once a target is marked with the crest, the rank of this Noble Phantasm is increased to B, and a second successful strike upon the marked area is treated as a lethal attack. The crest remains on the victim's body until either Archer wills the effect to end or she is slain.
The effectiveness of this Noble Phantasm is heavily limited by Archer's complete lack of skill and training as a warrior, making it difficult for her to even land the initial attack without the assistance of either Kallisti's clairvoyance or reinforcement of her accuracy by a Command Spell. However, once the mark has been placed, subsequent shots benefit from an automatic "tracer" effect which makes this Noble Phantasm considerably more dangerous and difficult to dodge.
Because of the nature of this Noble Phantasm, as well as the widespread belief that she needed to shoot Achilles from behind, Archer also qualifies for the Assassin class.
[18:30] RacingeR: Max S.Link with hero is when you promise your daughter to him
[18:31] RacingeR: Which means Airen and me are the only ones that maxed it (I promised Spin to him, and Spin is my daughter)
[18:32] hero: oh shit
[18:32] hero: spincess get
[18:32] hero: suck it fuckers
And finally, here is someone of a higher order...
Class: Saber (Rider)
True Name: Sigurd
Gender: Male
Alignment: Neutral Good
STR: ***** A
END: ***** A
AGI: ***** A
MGI: ***** B+
LCK: ***** E
NP: ***** A++
Keywords
CLASS SKILLS
Magic Resistance: A-
The capacity to negate or abate the effects of Magecraft. Cancels all Magecraft of A Rank (High-Thaumaturgy that makes use of magic circles and Instantaneous Contracts) and below. Therefore, he cannot be injured by modern magi. Originally, he should be able to hold back the coercion of a single stroke of Command Spell, but it just so happens that he is exceptionally vulnerable to mental interference Magecraft.
Riding: A
The technical skill to mount on vehicles. It also displays its effects on mechanized vehicles. Can freely handle all vehicles and animals, with exception of those of Mythical Beast and Divine Beast rank.
PERSONAL SKILLS
Divinity: E
Whatever one has Divine Spirit aptitude. The higher the level more one is treated as a mixed race of a materialized Divine Spirit. Other than breaking Skills such as Protection of the Faith and Enlightenment of the Bodhi Tree, there is also an effect that reduces the special defensive value called “purge defense” in proportion to the Rank in this Skill.
Despite being mostly diminished by the passing of generations, he has some Divine Spirit aptitude as a descendent of Odin.
Golden Rule: B
Not the golden ratio of one's body, but rather the predestination of how much cash follows around in one's life. At B Rank, it is possible to amass a treasury suitable for someone of noble birth.
This Skill originates from equipping the magic ring Andvarinaut. Still, as compensation, the LCK parameter suffers a great Rank DOWN.
Prana Defense: A+
A Skill of the same type as "Prana Burst", magical power is translated directly into defensive power.
The real identity of Sigurd’s invulnerable body. Upon being baptized in the blood of the evil dragon, he acquired its magic reactor (ability) along with the dragon factor. As a consequence, his flesh became constantly wrapped in an aura of magical power. Even without the sorts of armors, his protections are already on the level of the Dragon Kind. Still, due to the legends on how a maple leaf got stuck on Sigurd’s back as he bathed on the magic blood, that place became the only vulnerable point in the defense that should have been absolute.
Runes: B
Possession of the Magic Crest of Northern Europe - the runes. Can employ the Original Runes.
Applications include the “aegishjalmr” (helm of terror), a defensive charm that can protect the user against mental interference, created by inscribing Algiz eight times.
Wisdom from Time Immemorial: A
Erudition acquired not through experience or instruction, but inherited by blood as a type of racial memory. With exception of those denoting physical burdens, most Skills can be employed with a proficiency level of B Rank or above. Skills that are particular of certain heroes are also not included.
In Sigurd’s case, this is one of the abilities derived from the dragon’s blood. Corresponding Skills include Animal Dialogue, Eye of the Mind (Fake), Item Construction and others.
Weapons
Hrotti & Ridill
Two blades originally possessed by the brothers Fafnir and Regin. Hrotti is a double-edged short sword and Ridill is a single-edged great knife. Despite being different types of blades, since they both are the work of the same blacksmith – the dwarf Hreidmar – there are visible similarities between them. Though not on the level of Noble Phantasm, they are strong magic swords with runes of power carved in them.
Because Gram is too much famous, Sigurd uses these two blades when attempting to hide his identity.
NOBLE PHANTASM
Hindarfjall – Nothing Can Impede My Passage
Rank: B+
Type: Anti-Unit (self)
Mystic mare Grani. Sigurd’s beloved stallion. An outstanding animal whose lineage can be traced back to the personal mount of the chief god Odin, the Divine Beast Sleipnir. Legend goes that, while riding this horse, Sigurd could overcome any obstacles that blocked his way.
Rather than Sigurd's, it is better to say that this Noble Phantasm belongs to Grani itself; a special ability of the gray stallion that can be only activated when it is together with its chosen master. Even if the destination is isolated by a powerful bounded-field, Grani will surely get across it to take Sigurd to his destination.
Gram – The Sword of Inherited Supremacy
Rank: A++
Type: Anti-Fortress
Magic sword – the sun blade Gram. The strongest magic sword that rivals the strongest holy sword. The sword of glory and ruin possessed by the greatest hero of Northern Europe, Sigurd. The sword thrust at the large tree (Barnstokkr) of the Volsung family that Sigmund extracted; afterwards it was recreated from the sword fragments that his son Sigurd inherited.
The “sword thrust at the tree that grants control” which is the original model of the “sword stuck in the stone that selects the king” – Caliburn. Thus, although they are on different leagues, their powers are similar: it releases a stream of light and heat that burns away everything in its path. Furthermore, as it is endowed with the special quality of dragon slayer, it is a weapon said to be the natural enemy of the King of Knights who is the personification of the dragon.
In Des Ring des Nibelungen that was compiled later, there is a change in name of Sigurd to Siegfried and Gram to Balmung.
Andvarinaut – Cursed Engagement Ring
Rank: A+++
Type: Anti-Unit
A cursed ring said to bring many riches, but at the same time always cause the ruin of its possessor. The source of Sigurd’s demise, but conversely is also an item that he has a great attachment to.
As the symbol of love between him and the Valkyrie Brynhild, when its true name is called the ring will summon the Heroic Spirit Brynhild to fight by Sigurd side. As a Servant, Brynhild has Independent Action of E- Rank and can only remain in this world for 30 turns.
Background
Last edited by Master of Chaos; January 25th, 2016 at 11:37 PM.
Summoning Brynhilde? No way.
Aside from the ability to summon Brynhilde he didn't wank as hard as I did, imo. Everything that's there has a basis, and he IS the greatest hero of Norse lore.
I did a Brynhilde, not a Sigurd. Though I have contemplated doing a Sigurd profile, I don't think I'll bother. Because it'd be a copy of yours with some minor changes(weakening Andvarinaut, giving him Language of the Birds as a kind of Unified Language), I see no reason to bother with one of my own when your is around.