Cool Mary Poppins Servant.
Cool Mary Poppins Servant.
Class: Rider (Leader)
True Name: Theseus
Gender: Male
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
STR: ＊＊＊＊＊ D+
END: ＊＊＊＊＊ C
AGI: ＊＊＊＊＊ B
MGI: ＊＊＊＊＊ C
LCK: ＊＊＊＊＊ A
NP: ＊＊＊＊＊ B
Keywords
CLASS SKILLS
Magic Resistance: D
The capacity to negate or abate the effects of Magecraft. Negates Magecraft employed by means of Single Action. About the degree of an amulet that repels prana. If its a magus that possesses a somewhat strong ability, it is possible to easily breakthrough this.
Riding: A
The technical skill to mount on vehicles. It also displays its effects on mechanized vehicles. Can freely handle all vehicles and animals, with exception of those of Mythical Beast and Divine Beast rank.
If a Ruler...
PERSONAL SKILLS
Charisma: B
The natural talent to command an army corps. Raises the abilities of one's own army on group battles. A rare talent. For the king of a country, B Rank is adequate.
Divinity: C
Whatever one has Divine Spirit aptitude. The higher the level more one is treated as a mixed race of a materialized Divine Spirit. Other than breaking Skills such as Protection of the Faith and Enlightenment of the Bodhi Tree, there is also an effect that reduces the special defensive value called “purge defense” in proportion to the Rank in this Skill.
Some anecdotes tell that Rider was imbued with the divine essence of the God of Seas Poseidon while still on his mother womb.
Eye of the Mind (True): A
Insight cultivated from training and learning. The “logic of battle” to calmly grasp one’s situation and the abilities of the enemy and find out a means of escape when in a dilemma. At A Rank, the power of insight has been sharpened to the point that it can reliably act as a limited form of precognition. Even when facing impossible odds, he can still find a path to victory.
Weapons
Sword of Athens
This short sword is filled with decorations that mark it as a regalia (royal treasure) of the Athenian royal house. Its ornamentations make it quite beautiful, but as it usually happens in these cases, they also decrease its performance as a weapon. It once served as proof of Theseus’ ancestry.
NOBLE PHANTASM
Ariadne – A Tribute of Love
Rank: D
Type: Anti-Unit
A thin golden thread attached to and rolled around a long silver pin. As it was given to Theseus by his greatest love, this is his most prized possession. The golden thread can extend itself infinitely and cannot be broken by means of physical force.
Originally an item with little potential as a weapon, but Theseus was able to devise a way to effectively employ it in battle thanks to his great skills.
Hecale – Taming of the Mad Bull
Rank: A
Type: Anti-Army
The Cretan Bull. A Divine Bull that was bred by Poseidon and, according to the legend, given as a gift to Minos, king of Crete. However, when Minos unknowingly offended Poseidon with his actions, the god of seas cursed the animal with madness so it would rape king’s wife, Pasiphae. Afterwards, it continued to run wild and spread destruction. Hercules captured it at one point, but it ended up being released and eventually strayed to Marathon. Theseus later tamed it with the assistance of an old priestess.
In battle, the Cretan Bull tramples over enemies with a wild charge attack. Even if a direct hit is avoided, the strong gales caused by the passage of the beast will knock down all those who fail in an AGI check.
Strictly speaking, the summoning of the Cretan bull is an inherent special ability that Theseus has as a Heroic Spirit. The true identity of this Noble Phantasm is that of a reenactment of the Greater Ritual performed by the priestess Hecale, which suppressed the curse of the animal so that Theseus could tame it.
On a side note, Divine Bulls are usually Divine Beast rank creatures, but the Cretan Bull was demoted to a Magic Beast by the curse imposed onto it.
Background
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*covers his eyes/immediately scrolls down*
Dammit, MoC! Stop sniping me!
Does it count if I did him about a year ago?
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Titania – Queen of Fairies
Alignment- Lawful Neutral
Class- Caster
Bio- The fairy queen, known by countless names, Titania is not the first fairy queen. She was a young girl during the Elizabethan period who stumbled ill-advisedly into a fairy ring and was captured and made into a fae servant. She soon made her captors regret their decision to take her though, as she led a coup d’état that overthrew the standing leadership. However, she had already been turned into one of the fey, and had no choice but to become the new queen. In time, she became as devious as her predecessors, finding clever new ways to lure in hapless victims even as magic declined in the outer world. Normally, it would be impossible for an elemental spirit to enter the Holy Grail War as a Servant, nor any reason to. However, the loss of Avalon and the delays in fully capturing their champion have long peeved the court. Titania’s technical identity as a human initially has allowed her to enter the 5th Holy Grail War to retrieve Avalon and ensure that the King of Knights returns to where she belongs. With her powers, it is simple enough to ensnare her master, making him little more than a battery. Using her Changeling power to steal the identity of Ayako Mitsuzuri, she seeks to infiltrate the world of her targets and lure them into her clutches. However, Titania has plans of her own. She hates being seen more as a title, a conception, rather than an individual, to be bound to the expectations of the worlds. Should she somehow be able to reach the Grail without breaking her oaths, she intends to finally free herself from the entrapments of the fairies, no matter the cost.
Parameters:
Strength (E/B) - Stat decreased as changeling.
Agility (E/A) - Stat decreased as changeling.
Endurance (E/C) - Stat decreased as changeling.
Prana (E/A)- Stat decreased as changeling.
Luck (A)
Noble Phantasm (A)
Skills:
Item Construction (Class, E/C)- The skill to manufacture magical items. Rank reduced as changeling.
Territory Creation (Class, A)- The skill to build a special terrain that is advantageous to oneself as a magus. For Titania, this lets her partially recreate the fairy world. She cannot use the skill as a changeling, but can maintain territory she has already set up. See Fairy Ring and Fairyland.
Changeling (C)- “I gift you magic, at a small price. Your place shall be mine, your face my guise.” The power of fairies to take the place of humans they spirit away to the fairy world. Generally this is done only on babies, as they are easier to imitate. Changelings have an unsettling aura around them even though scans identify them as humans. However, the easiest way to identify them is in their behavior, as the standard fairy is unable to contain his mischievous and inhuman nature for long. Titania, on the other hand, is much more capable of keeping her cover, though small habits may give away clues. She cannot be identified as a Servant in this form. As a changeling, she has only the standard abilities of her target, with minor enhancements as a Servant.
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Eye for Art (C)- Infatuation with works of arts. By observing artistic elements of Servants and Noble Phantasms, it is possible to identify them.
Lawful Fae (A)- As a fairy, Titania is bound to specific laws set by higher powers for the fey. She must always be honest and always keep oaths. These laws also require her to strictly follow all official rules in any contest she participates in, including the Holy Grail War. Titania always tells the truth and always fulfills her promises to the letter, but she is highly skilled with wording and often finds convenient loopholes. In exchange for following these rules, she is gifted with special powers over truths and oaths. She can detect lies in any person, and if she asks directly the subject is duty-bound to answer her questions honestly. Should the speaker lie to her face, she has the power to curse him if she wills. As for oaths, any promise given to Titania must be kept. She has the right to interpret the oaths within the wordings given, and vaguely worded promises are very dangerous. For instance, promising to “always be there for you” could make the speaker into a perpetual servant to her every whim. The subject is magically compelled to obey, but even resistance is futile. Should the subject, intentionally or not, break his word, Titania gains power over him as recompense. If Titania breaks these rules, she loses the skill.
Noble Phantasms:
Child’s Play (Special, A)- “Hi! I’m Titania the fairy! Want to have some fun?” This Noble Phantasm is the embodiment of the shift in humanity’s perspective of fairies. Fairies are no longer seen as powerful, unsettling entities, but rather as childhood characters, playful and gentle beings that would never do a bit of harm. By gathering enough children, Titania activates the spell. It is a Reality Marble projected by the audience’s preconception about fairies that transforms the area into a stereotypical natural fairy playground. Anything is possible in the magical land as long as the subjects have the imagination. There is but one rule: the games must be child friendly. Attempts to bring in unpleasant violence into the games is suppressed by the Noble Phantasm. This does not, however, bar the possibility of death. This is a manipulation of children’s naïveté. As long as the death is “child friendly” – in that it is not gory or horrifying – one can easily kill. Plus, the world is governed by the natural assumption that fairies are good. Titania and all fairies in her retinue gain a Chaotic Good alignment. As a result, whoever hurts such innocent beings is a villain, and it is perfectly reasonable to “get rid of bad guys”, isn’t it? For instance, Titania could chop off a victim’s head and have the still protesting head roll off a cliff; or have the enemy humorously squashed by an anvil; or, upon capturing the “evil person”, turn the subject into a puff of bright sparkles to entertain the enthralled children. Although the deaths are made “safe”, they are just as deadly to the victims as usual. However, the Noble Phantasm is still bound by rules. Should the audience gain attachment for the victims and begin to question the rightness of the “fun”, the Reality Marble collapses.
Fae Feast (Special, D/C)- “Won’t you take just a little nibble? It’s very rude to refuse a girl’s present, after all.” This Noble Phantasm creates special fairy food. It resembles normal food, but has a strange, intriguing feel to it. Eating it grants the user special powers. This is because the food actually makes him part-fairy, temporarily altering his Origin with fey aspects. If the food is eaten outside the fairy world – or Titania’s territory – the effect is only temporary. However, the digestion of fairy food within the magical realm slowly corrupts the user with fairy magic, warping his Origin to Fairy-aligned until he becomes a fairy. The food is beyond words, and even a small taste can leave the victim addicted and voracious to seek out more of this wonderful food. With enough time, the eater will no longer be satisfied with eating the food normally, and will only be content eating in the fairy world under its full power. Titania cannot use this Noble Phantasm in her changeling form, but can take already-created samples outside with her to dole out to unsuspecting eaters. Within her territory, she can create an “endless feast” – elaborate tables decked with exotic cuisines, lining every hall so that it is impossible to escape the tantalizing scents.
Circle Between Worlds- Fairy Ring (Support, A)- “Dance on the Wind and below the Earth, / A rhapsody to the unknown worlds / that empower and bind us with their grace!”- The backbone of Titania’s territory. To sustain and enhance her Bounded Field, Titania must dance in a circle around her domain every midnight. Every minute of constant dancing by her boosts the field, and she can dance until sunrise. Every person that joins her in the dance increases the effect. The dance borders yet stays within the territory, so attackers must be wary, lest they be compelled to join in the dance. Under the magic’s effect, it is impossible to stop dancing until Titania wills it. Although one can eventually get tired, not to worry: fairy attendants wait by to serve refreshments to exhausted guests, allowing them to dance more and more and more… The interval between midnight and dawn is also the only time Titania can exit the field in her true form, as leader of a Wild Hunt that tears through the surrounding area for captives to spirit away. However, the hunt can only be launched after the dance has ceased for the night.
Fairyland (Special, EX)- This is not actually a Reality Marble, but Titania’s standard Marble Phantasm, a projection of the fairy world as its queen. Because of the rules against elementals in the Holy Grail War, this power is sealed with the exception of Territory Creation: Titania can create a limited fragment of the fairy world within her territory. Within the Bounded Field, she can apply some mystical aspects of her realm and call on some of her fey retinue, but cannot match the fairy world’s true splendor. In addition, Titania can only exist in her full Servant form inside the field, as she is an elemental that cannot normally enter the human world; if she wishes to explore outside, she must rely on her Changeling ability. However, if she were to “fairly” obtain a fey artifact, it would be perfectly within her right to enforce the full weight of the faerie world around her.
Last edited by Cataquack Warrior; June 2nd, 2013 at 10:20 PM.
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Hotlinking everywhere!
I like it, in concept and execution. But some of the entries are getting a bit long, especially in the NPs. Might be a good idea to paragraph them more rigorously for easier reading.
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Here's something from the same basic plot-line that the Caster Pompadour was from.
Servant Rider
Name: Pinocchio
Class: Rider
STR: D
AGI: E
CON: D
MGI: E
LCK: E-
NP: A+
Class Skills:
Rider
The expertise to ride animals and vehicles.
- B (D): Though Rider’s ability regarding this skill is lower than what is usually required for the Class, he is eligible for Rider Class thanks to the special mount granted to him.
Detail:
An artificial life-form created in order to fill a gap in the heart of a lonely man.
Originally a piece of organic metal infused with a soul through alchemy unseen on this planet, this artificial life-form was found by a carpenter, and later given to a poor puppeteer known as Geppetto. The metal, soft as wood, was fashioned into a puppet by Geppetto and named Pinocchio. However, due to his mind working differently from those around him, Pinocchio was unable to fit into the society and could only cause mayhem, something which eventually led him into cahoots with a pair of trickster-spirits.
Spurred on by the tricksters, spirits of nature created by the world to destroy the foreign life-form, Pinocchio was thrown into a spiral of poor choices and terrible outcomes. He is cheated out of his money, thrown for the monsters to eat, imprisoned unfairly, transformed into an animal, swallowed whole and even was the direct reason for the death of his only friend. It is only through the guidance of a fairy from the moon that he is able to survive all his trials.
While the records preserved now tell of a tale with a happy ending, one that ended with Pinocchio gaining a human body of his own and becoming accepted by the planet, that was not the first record of his fate; it was also said by the magus who uncovered this tale that the artificial life-form experienced a gruesome fate, killed by people who did not understand him.
However, the truth of the matter is much simpler – a soul of a human cannot inhabit the body of an alien, and thus, the latter has to die for the former to survive.
Personality:
Rider is, if anything, a curious Servant. He is never able to resist new things and new temptations, and thus he finds the modern world to be a heaven. Even the bloodshed and deaths of a Holy Grail War cannot dampen his spirits. This might also be due to the fact that he has seen the worst that humanity can offer, and thus nothing in the Holy Grail War can bring him down. But were he to meet anything deeply tied to the nature of this planet, he would be both unnerved and scared.
Rider easily forms a bond with a male Master, usually referring to them as “Father” and with affection. His foremost desire is to make his “Father” proud, and he has no other goal regarding the Holy Grail War. This is due to the fact that a recording of a mechanical being, alien to the planet, could not be integrated properly into the Throne of Heroes. All memories of his original father are glitched due to these complications, and thus, Rider integrates them with the memories of his Master, effectively replacing the original father-figure with that of a new one. For that very same reason, and also because of bad memories concerning women, Rider will never truly trust a female Master.
Incidentally, whenever Rider lies, something an android like him should be incapable of, his body files an error-report on a small paper-slip. These papers are stored in the compartment hidden in his nose. The more reports there are, the more the compartment has to extend. Thus, it is easy to spot him lying due to his growing nose.
Personal Skills:
Independent Action
The ability to remain independent even when rejecting the prana supply from the Master. At the higher ranks, it is also possible to remain for extended periods of time in this world without an established contract.
- A+: Thanks to the self-sustained prana generator integrated into Rider, he never suffers from loss of prana, and can, in fact, supply his Master with prana through their contract.
Foolish Fate
The unavoidable instinct of choosing the fate that brings forth most misery. While it attracts, by nature, misfortune upon the Servant, it also applies to those around him when possessed at higher ranks.
- A: The Servant chooses actions that tend to lead to misery. This misery is not restricted to him, but to his allies and enemies too. Prolonged exposure may infect the mindsets of those around him.
Galvanism
Unrestricted conversion and accumulation of prana and bio-electric energy. Falls under the domain of alchemy.
- B: At this rank, thaumaturgical attacks involving no material existence are converted to electricity that powers the Servant. Attacks that cannot be absorbed completely damage the internal systems of the Servant.
Mental Pollution
The skill that makes it highly possible to shut out any mental interference Thaumaturgy, due possessing a distorted mentality. However, at the same time it becomes impossible to come to an understanding with individuals that do not possess an equivalent rank of mental pollution.
- E: While it is not possible to shut out mental interference, the effects can be dulled.
Noble Phantasms:
Name: Il Terribile Pescecane Replica
Title: ~Conqueror of the Tyrannical Seas~
Rank: A+
Type: Anti-Army
Range: -
Maximum number of targets: 100
A replica of the great prehistoric beast that survived for countless millennia.
A hybrid born from the unholy union of the greatest shark to have ever lived and the massive beast with unrelenting jaws. This monster was a nightmare that lived in the seas around Italy hundreds of years ago, forgotten by time and the civilizations. It was woken from its slumber by the arrival of an alien object from the great beyond, an event that forever tied the two beings together. A great Phantasmal Beast that is more akin to a superweapon than a living organism, it terrorized the coasts of Italy until it eventually returned to its slumber.
While this Noble Phantasm is not the original beast, it is a perfect replica of it, created from the prana released by Rider. Since Rider was able to perfectly study and record the existence of the beast, he can create it again, releasing it into the world once more to wreak havoc and untold destruction. The beast can crush 100 men with a single bite, and its body, capable of flight, is durable enough to withstand all but the most destructive Noble Phantasms.
It cannot be said that Rider uses the beast as a mount, as it acts on its instincts. However, since Rider is the only one who can summon it, it is counted as his mount. The 50 meter long monster requires all of Rider’s prana to summon, and as long as it is summoned, Rider is only capable of very basic actions.
Name: La Fata dai Capelli Turchini
Title: ~Fairy of the Turquoise Moon~
Rank: A+
Type: Anti-Unit
Range: -
Maximum number of targets: 1
A fairy not of this world, sent to help the android that once escaped.
Originally, this “fairy” was sent to retrieve an alchemical experiment that got out of hand. However, once she witnessed the earnest desire of a formerly inanimate object, she was determined to help it fit into the alien world they were now both stranded in. While the “fairy” had more than once studied this world, and thus could adapt into it, the android was not as lucky. Thus, he required a teacher, and she required someone to help. The shaky union was born, one that changed the destiny of a one artificial life-form.
Although she no longer exists in the world, she can still be called to his side by Rider. Usually she does not manifest physically, and her effect can only be seen in the shifting of fate. In rare cases, however, she may appear as an actual being, and help Rider with her magecraft.
When summoned, the fairy grants a temporal bright future to Rider, boosting his Luck to Rank A. It also enables him to roll again any failed Saving Throw that fails, until it succeeds, for a short period of time. However, this effect is tied to the morality of Rider. The duration of the Noble Phantasm may be shortened if Rider performs questionable deeds.
Additional Info:
- Rider is very fond of new culture, and may be distracted by television and radio.
- Rider, however, abhors internet because of the temptations it has.
- If Rider’s male Master is in a relationship with a woman, Rider may exhibit bouts of extreme jealousy.
- Incidentally, the fairy does not have a blue hair. The name comes from the fact that she, after Rider’s tale ended, went to become an influential religious figure who was identified with the color blue. She also once wore a dress of white, blue and gold.
- Apparently, the fairy used to be a tyrant in her youth. Or so some claim.
Last edited by Verg Avesta; June 2nd, 2013 at 11:40 PM.
Well that's... actually quite the stunning interpretation of a Servant Pinocchio! I like it.
Uncommon or not, Verg delivers awesome Servant designs/profiles!
I like the inclusion of Galvanism, too; parallels a bit to Apocrypha's Frankenstein's Monster.
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A bit of a shitty profile, but I'm proud of how it's turned out so far. A take on Saint Longinus.
Class: Lancer
Name: Longinus
Strength: C
Agility: C
Endurance: C
Magical Energy: C
Luck: D
Details: Longinus was a soldier, through and through. A centurion in the Roman Legions, he was assigned to the Jerusalem garrison through a twist of fate. Due to his suddenly developed cataracts, Longinus was charged with the responsibility of performing executions and preventing the bodies from being taken away by family members rather than being assigned to active patrols. He erected the crosses himself, drove the nails into their limbs, cast lots for the clothing of the crucified, and was by happenchance, the man who carried the spear used to give water to the poor souls about to die.
Longinus was also the closest to the bodies when the man in the middle of the trio of crosses breathed his last. To check, he drove his spear deep into the man’s sides, and the blood that dripped out happened to strike him directly in the eyes. He. Saw. Everything. The Divinity of the blood coating his spear. The world all around him. The pulse and truth of the world as the one with the blood of a god saw it.
He deserted shortly after that, taking nothing with him but his armor, new found faith, and the clothes of the one who had given him his sight. Longinus traveled the Holy Land for decades, seeking with his newfound eyes the demons that infested it and for any trace of the holy presence that had given him purpose.
After a rather nasty encounter involving a hammer, three donkeys and possessed statues, he was arrested by the Roman authorities as a deserter and tortured in an attempt to make him renounce his claims of demon’s having possessed the statues of the gods. Defiant to the end, he was decapitated as punishment for his desertion, and his divine sight saw no more.
He was canonized as a saint by the early church for his unceasing hunt of the demonic and the damned, as well for his championship for the faith. In fact, some of the Burial Agency claim he was their founder. It is interesting to note that the name Longinus is one assigned to him in the years after his death, the Heroic Spirit having adopted it as his own.
Class Abilities:
Magic Resistance - (C): Nullifies all magic that requires less than two verses. Cannot block large scale magic such as great magic or ritual magic
Personal Skills:
Saint - (C): Indication of being acknowledged as a Saint. In this case, it grants access to natural healing abilities. As the user is a minor saint, no bonuses are gained from this skill to any parameter or other skill.
Clairvoyance - (A-): Even if the eyes are removed, blind, or otherwise disabled, the user can see perfectly. In addition, it grants the ability to detect those of Divine and Demonic nature, though this is more akin to a revelation than actual sight.
Soul of the Martyr - (B+): Grants a resistance to mental interference due to faith. In this case, it also allows the user to ignore any and all pain.
Noble Phantasm:
Lancea Longini - Piorum Framea de Libatis - (A+): The leaf headed spear of the Centurion Longinus, which pierced Christ's side when on the cross. Anointed in divine blood, the spear has become a symbol of power and the death of the old gods in the face of the Lord. Longinus carried it until his death, at which point it slipped into the mists of time. Many kings and lords have claimed to hold this spear of destiny, but none possessed the true spear. The spear becomes more powerful with each tier of divinity the opponent of the user possesses, complementing its power as a focal symbol for Longinus's faith. In fact, its actual rank should be far lower; the religious worship and near global knowledge of this phantasm are what truly makes it a powerful weapon, though its own ability is powerful in its own right.
Shroud of Longinus - Clothes of the King of Jews (C): Longinus deserted from the Roman army after professing his new found faith, fleeing with nothing but his spear, armor, and the clothes he won gambling with other soldiers at Golgotha. Fashioning them into a cloak, he soon discovered properties that he took great use of on his trips to both spread the word and destroy the unclean he now sensed. The clothes protected him from curses and diseases of all types, and proved incredible protection against the demon's infesting Cappadocia, deflecting their cursed spears and arrows without even harming the fabric. It was unfortunately not enough to prevent his execution for destroying the possessed statues of a cities temple. The shroud protects him from all curses, even those ritually based, and repels demonic weapons that it comes in contact with, though the force of the blows is still transferred to him.
Last edited by Arch-Magos Winter; June 5th, 2013 at 11:32 AM.
Holy shit, I was just thinking that Longinus might make a good lancer and this pops up.
Good Job.
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Five had a profile made on him as well, but it was really bare bones.
The research that went into this profile was possibly the best aspect of this. So many accounts of his bloody demise, all contradicting another.
Those are some pretty high stats for someone who's claim to fame is stabbing someone in the side. On the other hand his MR seems a tad low, if Jeanne gets EX rank on faith alone, you'd think other saints should be simliarish.
Overall I'll give it a B.
Bible stories are like that all over the place, I think there's at least 2 different and contradicting versions of the story of Mary and Joseph when they left for Nazareth
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It's more because of his fame that he has such high stats. He's directly mentioned in the bible, if not by name.
Admittedly, I would lower them, but without that solid stat base, he'd be much much worse than your average servant, as his Phantasm is really only a promised kill against those of divine blood
As for the MR...
Well, he's a minor saint. A very important minor saint, but a minor saint none the less. Plus the Shroud makes him immune to curses completely.
Last edited by Arch-Magos Winter; June 5th, 2013 at 12:20 AM.
I don't think fame would really boost any servant by that much. Like the extra fame from being summoned in Germany only let Kiritsugu make up for his lack of prana and even then his inability to get along with Saber sucked her down.
And even if we are talking just the straight heroic spirit, I don't think fame for someone who's only recorded for stabbing someone, is the same as fame for butchering people on the battlefield.
Last edited by BlackField; June 5th, 2013 at 12:27 AM.
I don't think I've ever read anything that says a servant's recorded deeds are what dictates their stats (sans the modifier their master or class provides of course). I've always heard it was some nebulous combination of fame, actual physical abilities when you were alive and age of your legend.
Longinus lived 2000 years ago (about 2/3rds of the distance years-wise between the modern day and Hercules and the rest of the Age of Gods heroes for anyone keeping track, which is way older than the majority of servants). His fame is pretty self-evident, he may be a relatively minor saint but Joe Average is more likely to know him than any saint that doesn't have a holiday named after him thanks to literally every bit of religion-based fiction and video game with a lance in it namedropping him. And as for physical traits he was at least a Roman soldier so was subject to the rigors of training that entails, which I'm supposing was pretty well above the average person back then. To me that says reasonably high stats are warranted.
When you say "Joe Average" you mean "Joe Average the Protestant American".
Saint veneration is still alive and well in the more pious Catholic nations.
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