If I wanted to copy Hassan, he'd literally split into the armada, with the wraiths commanding the ships.
He's a different case in that he's mostly just empowered by his myth and being composed of so many souls. The whole concept for him was "weak Heroic Spirit changed into something different by circumstance and fame, and empowered to a much stronger level".
Shouldn't he have something like Innocent Monster then?
Isn't that only for monstrous/infamous reputations? Ya know, hence the name, Innocent Monster?
Andersen got his body corrupted by fairy tale stuff so...
It seems to be a catch all for corruption of a heroes legend.
Last edited by Emiya Kurou; October 13th, 2013 at 11:37 AM.
Originally Posted by Siriel
I think that this might be something Moon Cell Automaton only. One of the point of Throne of Heroes is to preserve heroes the way they were and it shouldn't be affected by changes in perception, since it's beyound time and space. SeRAPH creates Servants based on its own observations, which are highly accurate, but it seems like that they aren't beyound being possible to manipulate.
Spoiler:
This idea can also be supported by absense of this Skill from "regular" Grail Wars. Even semi-canonical Vlad III from Apocrypha has his "legend" manifested as NP, not a Skill.
That's, of course, is nothing more than opinion on the subject.
Last edited by Blastedspider; October 13th, 2013 at 03:34 PM.
Moon Cell observes the shit humans make up too and throws it into the mix.
don't quote me on this
Didn't that Extra Materials book that just came out say that all the Extra servants were in the actual Throne of Heroes as well as the Moon Cell? I mean, the idea that Innocent Monster is something only the Moon Cell does makes a certain amount of sense, but I wouldn't just take it on faith in the face of that.
My Servant :
Class Name: Assassin
True Name: Ken Arok
Sex: Male
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Ken Arok was the founder and first ruler of the Singasari Kingdom, an ancient Hindu-Buddhist kingdom in the East Java area of Indonesia. He was considered as the founder of Rajasa dynasty of both the Singasari and Majapahit line of monarchs. He came from humble origins but subsequently rose to be the most powerful ruler in Java. His life was colored with adventures, treacheries, and tragedies.
Strength: C
Endurance: C
Agility: A+
Luck: D+
Mana: C
Noble Phantasm: B
Class Skills :
Presence Concealment : B
It is possible to disappear completely and become almost impossible to be detected. However, efficacy will decrease once preparations to attack are taken.
Personal Skills:
Divinity : C
According to the legend, Ken Arok is son of the god Brahma having an affair with a woman called Ken Ndok.
Expert Of Many Specializations : C
Access to and use of many expert skills. A total of 16 different skills ranging from tactics, espionage, assassination, swindling, rhetoric and others can be used.
Ken Arok gained this ability through his experience life in the slum and thus gained many skills needed to survive there.
Mind's Eye (True) : B
A sixth sense of avoiding danger. In Ken Arok's case, he gained this ability through his life in the slum where he needs to be wary all the times.
Noble Phantasm:
Mpu Gandring - Cursed Kris of 7 Kills
A supernatural kris named after the smith who makes it, Mpu Gandring. Within it contains evil spirits which crafted together with the kris, making the kris a dangerous weapon of curse. This kris also contains the spirit of Mpu Gandring which killed by Ken Arok using this Kris. Anyone cut by this kris will be cursed and absolutely killed seven times despite the wound size, regardless of any resurrection skills or physical endurance. If the enemy has no ressurection means, he/she will be killed once. This ability came from the legend where Mpu Gandring, just before he died, cursed the kris to take the life of Ken Arok and 6 of his descendant.
Wanting to make Indonesian servant. I choose Assassin since I can't think of another Class befitting him. If some info or fact doesn't match, please do tell me.
Last edited by castor212; July 17th, 2014 at 02:29 AM.
The Wandering Jew who lived "countless lifes" and "played" the role of all known walks of life and tragedy.
His sole ambition in "life" is his own demise, to finally achieve rest. He can only be summoned by using a nail from Pilate's door - as he was a doorman - and his summoning is an irregular event, since he's not a Heroic Spirit.
Class Name: Avenger
True Name: Joseph of Arimathea/The Wandering Jew
Sex: Male
Alignment: True Neutral
Strength: D
Mana: E
Endurance: C
Luck: E
Agility: D
Noble Phantasm: EX
Class Skills :
Brooding & Angsting. (Comes with the territory of being a sucky Servant with very quirky qualities).
Personal Skills:
Despite his fairly bad stats, Josehp is actually a very dangerous opponent. During his unending wandering he's learnt pretty much all skills and lore known to men, as he's lived various identities, peddling in varios professions. An adept of all, master of known... if not for his noble phantasm he'd be hard pressed to even challenge Servants, but with it even his "average" skills can lead to surprising results.
Noble Phantasm:
Cursed to Wander the Earth - Sustaining Curse of the Savior (EX++) - Personal.
Ever since he mocked the Savior, Joseph literally can't die, cursed to eternally wander the Earth. He can be dismembered, beheaded, torn asunder, but eventually he always comes back to life. Even the immense power of other Noble Phanstams can't overcome this curse.
Last edited by castor212; October 20th, 2013 at 03:25 PM.
Ex with plusses lolollol
also ressurection isnt EX-rank at all.
Man, you mixed up Joseph of Arimatea with somebody else. Joseph of Arimathea was the one who brought Holy Grail to Britain, according to Arthurian legends, and the one who gave his empty grave for free so they could bury Jesus in The New Testament.
Waste of potential there. Joseph could be way more interesting Servant.
Wait a moment, maybe I could design him as Caster class Servant. But I would need to finish others first, heh...
Last edited by Kat; October 15th, 2013 at 07:34 AM.
Critical research failure
Oh, and famous Fisher King was his descendant, and it seems he brought a Holy Lance with him as well in Arthurian legends. Joseph of Arimathea as Lancer?
Also if he never died, how come he can even be summoned? Servants have to be, you know, dead.
@Christemo Well, I got the idea of making an irregular immortal servant. Like you said, the heroic spirit should be dead so it can be summoned, so I make him an Avenger in which his summoning is an extremely irregular event. Then again, I havent planned how irregular should it be ^^
I based this servant on the legend of Flores Historiarum, which stating that Joseph is indeed the Wandering Jew, the man cursed by Jesus to walk the earth until the Second Coming. So, yeah.
Hmm, maybe I can make him listed at Throne of Heroes, only listed, but summoned in alive condition?
Last edited by castor212; October 17th, 2013 at 01:11 PM.
Class Name: Saber
True Name: Diarmuid ua Dubhine
Sex: Male
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Strength: B+
Mana: C
Endurance: B
Luck: E
Agility: A
Noble Phantasm: B
Class Skills :
Magic Resistance : B
Cancel spells with a chant below three verses. Even if targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for him to be affected.
Personal Skills:
Eye of the Mind (True) : B
Capable of calm analysis of battle conditions even when in danger and deduce an appropriate course of action after considering all possibilities to escape from a predicament. So long there is even a 1% chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning.
Mystic Face : C
A spell inherent of one's facial features which is cast as soon as the target look at the user's face. Effects are similar to those of Charm-type Mystic Eyes.
Noble Phantasm:
Moralltach, Great Fury
Type : Anti-Unit
Rank : B
A highly lethal cursed bastard sword gifted by his foster father Aengus, said that it left no strike nor blow unfinished at the first trial. The ability of this sword is passive in nature. It does not require its name to be called upon in order to be utilized, allowing it to instantly actualize its curse upon the enemy. Once the sword wounded the enemy, the wound will worsen and lower the opponent's health. The rate in which the wound worsen is parallel to how bad the actual wound is; the bigger the wound, the faster the wound worsen. Healing and regeneration abilities is applicable, but it does not revoke the curse itself.
Beagalltach, Little Fury
Type : Anti-Unit
Rank : B
A cursed short sword from Aengus, said to specialize in destruction of magecraft. The ability of the sword is passive in nature. It does not require its name to be called upon in order to be utilized, allowing it to instantly affect whatever it strikes. The sword's abilities is unraveling magecraft. It is able to sever completed magecraft such as contracts exchanged in the past or curses done to an individual, making it the archenemy for magic barriers. The sword abilities took effect the moment once it contacts the target. The ability of this sword is more of 'unravel' rather than 'nullify'.
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I hope it is fine for me to make another version of existing servant.
I imagine this servant to be a tougher, a bit more hack-and-slash version of Diarmuid the Lancer. His NP ability is kinda reversed of the aspects of Gae Dearg and Gae Buidhe. Moralltach ability is stacking; he can just keep on inflicting wound upon the enemy as the curse progress. Moralltach ability is reversed from Buidhe that it inflicts curse in the wound that is still healable but worsen as time goes (you can use it to make the opponent master waste his/her prana), while Beagalltach's reversed from Dearg that it does not need continuous contact and deals only on completed magecraft.
Last edited by castor212; October 20th, 2013 at 03:26 PM.
> Lancer
> 2 swords
Get out.
stop being terrible chris
he clearly qualifies for Lancer because of his Luck, regardless of the actual weapon
don't quote me on this
That would make super jew above a Lancer too.
Sorry, very idiotic mistake. Edited.
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