He's infamous for escaping capture multiple times under the very slimmest of pretexts. You don't have to base yours on it, but my own Avery sheet I thought of a while back gave the Fancy the ability to comically squeeze through cracks of any size.
The fact you mention Libertalia too but make no mention of it in the actual sheet is just confusing.
For improvement, check my Avery sheet. Hope it helps.
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Coffee would be nice, though.
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I didn't really know how to include Libertalia in the sheet without giving Avery a pirate version of Ionioi Hetairoi, to be honest. I'll make some changes to the sheet as soon as I can.
Out of curiosity, where was this? I don't remember ever seeing an Avery sheet here other then the one by SleepMode (and now Padoru), and even the forum's search function (Avery + your username) isn't finding me anything.Originally Posted by Express
Thank you, eheh. I have quite fond memories of her - the lead persona is a specific member of the archive, but it was meant to be a very precarious psychological position and a heavy burden to actually hold that persona without losing it - if she lost her footing completely, it'd just be the aggregated ideal rather than a specific incarnation unless another one seized the spotlight, and it may not have been immediately obvious but a mean thing to realize 'that one' was gone. ;.;
And mm, I know ally summons are easy to make too derivative, but hers was basically projection magic with nakama/imaginary friends, so it was fun to play with. The more used portion was the aggregate combat skill, so she was basically a flashy but ultra technical fighter without an actual big finish besides combat skill dual-wielding a spear and sword.
It's interesting since yours uses more or less the same skills, but approaching them differently. I'd say the NP is the part that doesn't hold up so well, being fairly simple and not explaining its connection to her. The personality you gave her is nice, though, as is the FC.
I've checked both threads, surprised we don't have a Berserker Tohno Shiki that gains mad enhancement when Mystic Eyes are in use, but the mad enhancement is straight up Nanaya, so you get Shiki's eyes and Nanaya's skill.
Whats the use of putting anything here if no one will read this?
I've made some changes to Avery's sheet, although I'm not very satisfied with the final result because I feel I've copied SleepMode's Avery in some things
Avenger of the Punic War
"The dead deserve justice, Master."
Servant Class: Avenger
Alternate Classes: Rider, Caster, Berserker
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Origin: Europe (2nd century BC)
Armament: Soldiers
Parameters:
STR: D
END: B
AGI: C
MANA: C
LUCK: B
NP: A
Skills:
Noble Phantasms:
Description
Lore
Notes
Last edited by Shiki-pon; March 17th, 2018 at 02:06 PM.
Hm, I'd have never thought about making Cato an Avenger, perhaps a Berserker, but Avenger looks weird for me. The sheet is good anyways.
The anecdot of "Carthago delenda est" is one of the favorites of my father, a lover of the history of Rome, so I couldn't help but think about how he'd look as a Servant.
Frankly, making him an Avenger would never have occurred to me either, but the idea just came up when I was thinking on his motivations for wanting Carthage destroyed. I suppose it ended up working.
@Cato,
Hm.
I don't say I agree with this, but, can't place my finger on it.
For now it's all the + and ++ and +++ modifiers. I can never see those as justified most of the time.
I figured that the D+ in Str is mostly tied to situations involving Cato's natural enemies, increasing his (and the spirits') damage.
As for Eloquence, I originally went with A+ with the '+' being the fact that Cato can basically use certain forms of Magecraft (which the Skill normally wouldn't grant). I added the second one on a whim after thinking about how it interacted with Carthago Delenda Est. I also know pluses don't quite work that way, but went with the whim there.
Vengeful Spirits has a bit of its justification from Str and a bit from Eloquence.
Carthago Delenda Est has at least something approaching an explanation in its description.
Edit: Then again I suppose Vengeful Spirits might as well be A-ranked, given that it's a unique Skill.
Just a suggestion, but you could make him have a skill like Boudica's Vow to the Goddess instead of giving him the + modifier in Strength
Point.
I've added that to Vengeful Spirits' effects and changed the Skill's rank to A. Makes more sense that way.
One Question Shik-Pon how does look alike his capability set and Hougu in his other classes?
At all: What points should have a good Avenger(profil)? I ask this because i have a insane Avenja in my quiver who would be a bigger threat for a Sehaizenzo/Grailwar as Vlad in Vampire Dracule mood !
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First of all, calm down with the insane power scale. I don't know what Servant are you planning to do, but if it's going to be LoD Vlad level in base that's crazy to the point of absurdness.
To be fair, there's probably some Servants who could justifiably merit that level of power. But yeah, in general toning down the wank would be a good idea.
Well, of course some Servants could be at that level (otherwise, how would Beasts be defeated?), but, and I don't mean to sound offensive with this, seeing how the previous sheets were, I really needed to tell him to hold his horses.
That's fair enough. Koga seems to like taking historical figures that are minor at best and making them into Herc-tier (or higher) powerhouses.
Could you repeat the question in english? I'd assume what you were trying to ask was about what his Skills, abilities and Noble Phantasms would be like in his other classes. In case that was your question...
As a Berserker, he wouldn't possess any spirit stuff, his Eloquence would be ranked down significantly and he probably wouldn't have a particularly high-ranked Mad Enhancement either (the lucid-type EX rank is a bit overused in my opinion, so I wouldn't give Cato that).
His NP would still have the same name, though its effect might be different.
As a Rider, he would probably incarnate in his role as a praetor or consul, and many of his Skills would be switched to ones dealing more with governance (perhaps some sort of anti-Golden Rule reducing an enemy's resources - still, no spirit stuff here either). As for why he qualifies as a Rider in the first place, he might ride a Roman triumph (or just a commander's horse/chariot if we want to be mundane). Then again, the triumph is a bit far-fetched and he only received one, so... His NP in this form might have something to do with the Lex Oppia, manifesting as some kind of anti-luxury Noble Phantasm (maybe reducing the power of any weapon luxurious in design or something to that effect - the concept could be expanded upon)
Lastly, as a Caster he would be in his old age, when he was just a powerful orator (as opposed to being in a military position or a politician), so his Eloquence might rank up. Some kind of benevolent version of the spirit stuff might make an appearance in his Skills, Military Tactics would probably be dropped. He might have Self-preservation or something equivalent to that since as I recall, he mounted several successful defences as an attorney (I don't remember if he ever defended anyone besides himself, though).
NP-wise, I would probably try and work the whole olive branch thingy in there, but its type might change into Anti-Populace and its effect might become something more rational (and less malicious). Maybe a boost to allies when fighting whoever he's denouncing?
As for my points to a good Avenger profile? Don't make it too overpowered (which is a good rule of thumb for all Servants), actually think about why the Heroic Spirit qualifies as an Avenger (Avengers need something to avenge after all) and do your best to differentiate them from a possible Berserker version (as Avenger and Berserker can both run off of a theme of hatred and/or anger).
On that note, however, I wouldn't think Vlad is a particularly good candidate for Avenger, especially not in his vampire form. As established, he despise the vampire thing (given that he really wasn't one) and has to be insane to actually use it willingly (as seen by his Berserker incarnation). I guess he might hate the Turks, but none of his Nasuverse incarnations have really demonstrated any hangups about that whole thing.
Since there were comments on about the overpoweredness (in relation to Koga), here's a rule of thumb I use: Compare the Servant you're making with already established canon Servants from the same mythos or cultural sphere. Try and place him somewhere on the scale (since there's usually someone regarded as the strongest - take Herc from Classical mythology as an example) and be reasonable with it.
And as for the stats themselves, I follow this approximate formula:
Strength: Obviously represents physical capability
Endurance: How much punishment you can take (I might give people who survived diseases or lived a long life higher End as well)
Agility: Speed (also something along the lines of "how likely this Servant is to move" - someone like Leonidas who's famous for holding his ground thus wouldn't have a high Agi)
Mana: How much supernatural stuff happened in the Servant's legend, more or less
Luck: How much misfortune the Servant suffered, and/or how much misfortune they overcame (I guess it might also have connotations with optimism and pessimism, too)
NP: How well the Servant's legend is known
Still, these are my guidelines for the stats, no particular reason to follow them.
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