Servant/Project Idea Thread, "The Womb"

[BnEl15]

Ah yes, that 1* Berserker who talks big then gets smacked around by pretty much every other martial artist Servant. I do take both edgy and shitposty Servants every now and then, but I'll leave this one to the others.

[Alexcoene]

Yeah, he sounds like very weak Phantom servant material. His end is also pretty damn pitiful: one of his best students and friend died during a fight with another dojo. This completely wrecked his reputation to the point he was literaly resorted selling peanuts. He outright said in an interview afterwards he wanted people to forget him.

Also, apropo of nothing, I wonder if the cultural personification of a celestial object could possibly count as a Foreigner.

[Tabris]

Also, apropo of nothing, I wonder if the cultural personification of a celestial object could possibly count as a Foreigner.

So... Foreigner Amaterasu? I'm... actually working on that one.

[Alexcoene]

So... Foreigner Amaterasu? I'm... actually working on that one.

Not quite. I was actually thinking of making Lucifer, owing to the original meaning of he name being a Roman representation of Venus and that he technically has a human part in the King of Babylon who is the subject of the biblical passage whose misinterpretation led to the name being associated with the Devil.

[Tabris]

Meep, can't help with that. Why not pass it off as a "they were more right than they knew" kinda thing?

[Cursed by Fortuna]

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[Comun]

So a bit of a meta question, what are your guys thoughts on non-living heroic spirits, I'm not talking non-humanoid here, but things that weren't even alive to start with, but through either an association with humanity or exposure to humans "gained an existence which could be described as alive" basically similar to Tsukumogami, or objects like which gained a reputation of being cursed. I'm just asking to gauge public opinion as one idea I'm mulling over is an actual object summoned as a heroic spirit, merely due to it's role in history and the fact that it was used by humans.

Voyager is sorta universally liked, as far as I see.

[Alexcoene]

Yeah, and we've seen some cool profiles of ships turned into servants.

[Bugs]

I don't really understand the question when the quote you posted already explicitly states Asi was a living being before turning into a sword.

[Kabalisto Koga]

So a bit of a meta question, what are your guys thoughts on non-living heroic spirits, I'm not talking non-humanoid here, but things that weren't even alive to start with, but through either an association with humanity or exposure to humans "gained an existence which could be described as alive" basically similar to Tsukumogami, or objects like which gained a reputation of being cursed. I'm just asking to gauge public opinion as one idea I'm mulling over is an actual object summoned as a heroic spirit, merely due to it's role in history and the fact that it was used by humans.

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Hmm i would its totally okay to do that as i self made a servant of the Titanic and a Tree of significance so aslong as it stand for something oor has enough reputation ,no problem .

About the Beaast class i dont know why but look at Heraklitos of Ephesos .

[Wyvern]

Before I forget, thanks again to Wyvern for the feedback on the mystic tree idea of mine. I appreciate your help.

It was my pleasure to help. I'm always willing to help those who want to explore my own lore. I hope your idea turns out okay.

[Kamera]

this guy as Pretender al-Masih ad-Dajjal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saf_ibn_Sayyad

[NINE-lives]

I feel like Rama works much better as grand archer than grand saber considering THAT HE KILLED RAVANA WITH A BOW AND ARROW.

[NINE-lives]

Hey wyvern. What would you consider the divine/sacred tree of abrahamic and hindu/Buddhist mythology?

[Cursed by Fortuna]

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[Skull]

Taigong literally cannot be a taoist as he claims, Taoism was started by Lao Zi, hundreds of years after Taigong and Daji lived, making his existence quite possibly a case of similar to the Paladins of Charlemagne, someone historical distorted by later novelizations or tales about them.

Eh, it's no real different to Palamedes fighting as a Knight of the Round Table (of which we know to have been "real" and not fabrication despite all its anachronisms) before Islam was founded, among other things. The obvious explanation to smooth out discrepancies is usually "Nasuverse history does not align 1:1 with our own".

[Comun]

stop me if you've heard this one before was a beautiful concubine of an emperor who was depraved and immoral [...]

Given the parallels between this, Daji, and Bao Si, I'm personally thinking of her as a servant having some sort of curse skill, similar to Chacha, which causes or bring about the ruin of dynasties and monarchs [...] The parallels even beyond the basics are surprisingly numerous.

A woman so hot it causes societal collapse because the Emperor can't keep his eyes on the country is a super common archetype in Chinese historical literature. I don't the Chinese name for the trope, but in Japan it's called 傾国の美女 (keikoku no bijo; ruinous beauty). It's named after a poem about Daji, but people associate the term with Diao Chan, Empress Whenzhao/Lady Zhen, and Yang Guifei almost just as much. On the second tier of popularity we have Mo Xi, Li Ji, Xia Ji, and Chen Yuanyuan. And there's obviously Cleopatra and Helen who are the first ones generally brought up as non-Chinese examples.

[NINE-lives]

Mo xi was the earliest example though.

[Alexcoene]

Eh, it's no real different to Palamedes fighting as a Knight of the Round Table (of which we know to have been "real" and not fabrication despite all its anachronisms) before Islam was founded, among other things. The obvious explanation to smooth out discrepancies is usually "Nasuverse history does not align 1:1 with our own".

Or even just the whole concept of knighthood existing in Artoria's Britain centuries before Charlemagne.

Edit: Tough speaking of ruinous beauties, you could probably have one of Tamamo's screwed-over kings possess a skill like 'Affection of the Golden Fox' or something with a boost to 'evil actions'.

[Tabris]

Or even just the whole concept of knighthood existing in Artoria's Britain centuries before Charlemagne.

Edit: Tough speaking of ruinous beauties, you could probably have one of Tamamo's screwed-over kings possess a skill like 'Affection of the Golden Fox' or something with a boost to 'evil actions'.

Servant Go-Toba when?