Who's a better main character shirou emiya (fsn) or sieg (apocrypha)

[Ordep]

Sieg in an event manages to be more interesting than Shirou on several routes. I felt more charisma on the part of the homunculus in this event than anything Shirou has ever shown, although I agree that Sieg is horrible in Apocrypha.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Well of course he need to redeem himself

[EternalKing]

Sieg in an event manages to be more interesting than Shirou on several routes. I felt more charisma on the part of the homunculus in this event than anything Shirou has ever shown, although I agree that Sieg is horrible in Apocrypha.

While Sieg's event shows him to be much less bland I don't see him being more charismatic than Shirou still.

[Apple]

Who would win?



some gary stu self inserts



or literal fucking gods

[Tenzen12]

Shiro is neither self-insert nor Gary Stu though. He is dysfunctional individual with no self-respect.

On same Note neither Gil nor Karna are gods much less literal ones (and Karma is boring jobber, who wouldn't win even if he was sole contestant).

Regardless whether you want best master or best servant Lord Ell Melloi II still beats all four of them with large margin

[Snow]

Shirou literally is a self-insert character though.

[Apple]

Shiro is neither self-insert nor Gary Stu though. He is dysfunctional individual with no self-respect.

On same Note neither Gil nor Karna are gods much less literal ones (and Karma is boring jobber, who wouldn't win even if he was sole contestant).

Regardless whether you want best master or best servant Lord Ell Melloi II still beats all four of them with large margin

It's called a joke dear lad there's no need to take life so seriously all the time

[Tenzen12]

I don't, but even jokes can't work without getting at least part right. If you want make funny jokes at least.

But seriously. I don't like Shiro (as person), and would prefer different kind of
protagonist but he is well written character. That much is objectively true.

[I3uster]

shirou mostly inserts into other people

[Snow]

You insert yourself into him so he can insert into cute girls, a mutually beneficial relationship.

[Tenzen12]

So if you insert into Shiro does it makes you Angra, or you and him insert yourself together?

[Snow]

or you and him insert yourself together?

Ohh that's dirty

[Apple]

Is this how you escalate irl also I3uster

[I3uster]

shirou can talk to girls sober and/or without dating apps ive got much to learn

[Apple]

The Gary Stu of romance

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Sorry I don't want myself to be killed several times just to get girls

[I3uster]

thats probably why youre single

[Wandering Swordwoman]

[Apple]

Generally girls don't kill you, they do more of the emotional blackmail and social drama destruction thing

[Altaris]

On same Note neither Gil nor Karna are gods much less literal ones (and Karma is boring jobber, who wouldn't win even if he was sole contestant).

Sorry to inform you but Karna is literally a god even in the source material

And sorry he killed your dogs and is a better character than your favorite characters too