They actually know each other personally? I find that rather unlikely, but I guess it's possible...Originally Posted by Mcjon01
Don't keep up to date on the Extella thread, I was just replying because I couldn't figure out what the heck You was even trying to express with that post.
Of course not. And he said he believes in that guy he hates (who works on Extella) but whose name he doesn't remember (so did he ever really hate him?) to choose Savior over Saver in the localization.
Even from how you're summarizing it I literally cannot wrap my head around this. Are you being intentionally confusing or what?
I think I'm going to have to take a break from the thread until this weird conversation wraps up...
Jason
"I hate Jason, but I have faith that he'll make the right choice when it comes to localizing Savior. Also, I must not have ever actually hated him that much, since you don't forget the names of people you hate and I didn't even remember his until Kotonoha reminded me." -Beast's Lair user You
Oh I don't know what you guys were talking about, that was just my Servant idea. Jason.
Has boat
Is he a pseudo-Servant possessing Shinji?
Fate/Grand Order Doujins That Don't Suck [Updated: 3/2]
woah
get out my head
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
This is a good idea, he'd probably get a STR stat boost.
Localizationing stuff
Pastebin for all servants in past 3 months (aka the entire thread thus far)
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Been a little while since I last posted a sheet so here's someone I'm rather surprised no one really did before here. Had a bunch of fun making this one, I guess you could call him my protagonist type Servant...? Oh, and I went back and changed Stalin's third NP to Anti-Army bc there wasn't much of a purpose to make it a Reality Marble.
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Class: Saber (Alternatively Lancer or Rider)
True Name: Constantine I the Great
Alias: Saint Constantine, Thirteenth Apostle
Alignment: Neutral Good
Region: Rome, Constantinopole
Origin: History
Strength- B
Endurance- B
Agility- B+
Mana- B
Luck- A+
NP- A
Height/Weight: 178cm, 57kg
Gender: Male
Attribute: Star
Likes: Christianity, himself, his mother
Dislikes: Rebels, persecution
Talents: Commanding, inspiring others
Armament: Sword, armour, spear, rod
Traits: Human
Natural Enemy: Maxentius, Galerius
Legend
A Roman Emperor who lived from 306 to 337 AD. He was the first emperor to claim conversion to Christianity and ban persecution of Christians within the Roman empire, defeating many persecutors such as Maxentius. He was an extremely successful leader who enacted many administrative, financial, military, and social reforms to strengthen the empire. The age of Constantine was an important part in the history of the Roman Empire. He built a new imperial palace at Byzantium and renamed the city into Constantinopole after himself.
The city would later become the capital of the Empire for over a thousand years, which is the reason the eastern part of the Empire would later be renamed to the Byzantine Empire. Moreso, Constantine would become to be known as a highly revered and important figure in the history of Christianity. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built on his orders at the site of Jesus' tomb in Jerusalem and would come to be known as the most holy place in Christendom. For his importance in their history, the Orthodox Church along with many others have come to rever Constantine as a Saint equal to the twelve apostles, calling him the so called ｢Thirteenth Apostle｣.
During his life time, Constantine came into possession of what were considered to be the most holiest of objects of Christendom at the time. These objects included the Holy Lance Longinus which pierced the side of Christ, the True Cross which the Christ was crucified on, the Rod of Moses granted to Moses by the God of the Old Testament, etc. With his possession of numerous holy artifacts and his extreme importance in Christianity as well as the fact that he was favoured by the Christ, it is no mistake to say that what has manifested here as a Servant can without a doubt be called ｢Christianity's Champion｣. A Master that has summoned Constantine the Great and is unable to claim victory in the war can be called nothing but incompetent.
Personality:
Constantine the Great is a noble and fair warrior who is the very definition of chivalry. He is a brave and somewhat arrogant man who possesses an absolute will when dealing with difficulties. A great leader who could instill clear loyalty into his army and was massively popular among the people who believed he was truly under the protection of the Gods. He was also a rather fair judge. Though, he may appear as a noble and kind man to his people, he is also a liberator who instills fear into the bones of his enemies...
An absolutely battle-hardened man who does not know how to give up, ever possessing a constant win streak much to the chagrin of his enemies. Anyone who tried to put this man down was met with crushing failure. Galerius assigned him to a suicide mission by ordering him to march his army through the swamp on the middle Danube, threw him into a pit to combat with a lion single-handedly, and continuously attempted to kill him in hunts and wars, but even so... Despite how hard Galerius tried, Constantine never stopped winning. He returned from the apparent suicide mission in Danube with a Sarmatian captive to drop at Galerius' feet, left the lion in far worse condition than he himself was and evaded any assassination attempts in hunts and wars. Galerius failed and next it was Maxentius' turn.
Maxentius proclaimed Constantine a rebellious traitor and swore vengeance on Constantine for killing his father Maximian - who attempted to rebel against Constantine prior to this but was driven to suicide. All of Constantine's generals and strategists told Constantine that the battle against Maxentius was unfavourable and that Maxentius' army was twice the size if not larger than Constantine's own. And yet, Constantine despite the protests of his strategists and generals marched into war and led a crushing victory against the forces of Maxentius, forcing the man to flee until he was eventually caught, decapitated and his head sent to the doors of his allies that instantly ceased any rebellious activities against the liberator Constantine. Even the people never once abandoned their favour of Constantine during Maxentius' claims of Constantine being a traitor. The Augustus Licinus was met with similar crushing defeat, being unable to take down Constantine either.
Such was the bravery and vitality of the man who never once stopped his immense streak of victory and remained undefeated. He is a great hero who liberated the Roman people and stopped the persecution of Christians during his time as well as combated the inflation with a creation of a new currency that would be used for thousand of years after his time, but every great hero has their dark secret... Because Constantine's image has been distorted by the depiction of him as a tryant by many scholars, Constantine has a side of him that is aligned with the ever-greedy and lust-seeking side of the Roman Empire.
Because of this Constantine cannot be applied to the Ruler class and will remain chained down to his worldy desires by the tyrant side of him. Since Constantine feels discontent towards this depiction of him, he will likely refuse to be summoned into the Lancer class - which is his strongest class. This is due to the fact that in the Lancer class, his primary Noble Phantasm will become the Holy Lance Longinus. But because Longinus is an omnious Lance that tempts the owner with visions of their own greatness, Constantine has a heavy dislike for the spear that would likely fuel the tyrant he is trying to suppress.
Class Skills:
- Magic Resistance (A) - Cancel spells of A-Rank or below, no matter what high-thaumaturgy it is. In practice, the Servant is untouchable to modern magi, so it would not be an exaggeration to title the Servant a "Magus Killer". Beside being of the Saber class which possesses natural high ranking resistance to Magecraft, Constantine's rank is particularly high due to the divine protection granted to him by numerous Gods and his second Noble Phantasm that protects him from harm through the relic taken out of the True Cross.
- Riding (B) - Most vehicles can be handled with above average skill. However, cannot ride the likes of Phantasm Races such as Monstrous Beasts. Constantine was a knight skilled in riding horses and he led numerous cavalry charges against enemy tribes. When summoned into the Rider class, this skill is ranked up.
Personal Skills:
- Saint (A) - A skill possessed by those acknowledged as a ''Saint''. When summoned as a Servant, the ability of saint is selected one among "raising the effectiveness of sacraments", "automatic HP recovery", "1 Rank-Up to Charisma" and "production of a holy shroud is possible". In Constantine's case, he is recognized as a Saint equal to the Apostles by the Orthodox Church for being an important historical figure who was the first Roman emperor to claim conversion to Christianity and ceasing the persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire which was a turning point for Early Christianity, sometimes referred to as the Triumph of the Church, the Peace of the Church or the Constantinian Shift.
- Duality (B) - A skill similar to that of ''Innocent Monster''. It is possessed by those containing two conflicting personalities - often created as a result of a false picture painted of the individual by the minds of the people. Constantine, who is revered as a Saint, possesses a second personality - which is that of a cruel, self-righteous tyrant. This is a picture of Constantine that many scholars have tried to depict ever since the discovery of anti-Constantinian sources. As such, upon being summoned as a Servant, Constantine is constantly suppressing a second ''him'' who is trying to come to the surface and tempt Constantine to relieve himself in wordly pleasures. When fighting a battle with personal intentions - such as anger or hatred towards the other individual - Constantine is granted a rank up in STR and his strikes become more aggressive and cruel in nature - as if he were a butcher instead of a knight. In exchange when fighting such a battle, the personal skill Saint is locked away and a rank down in LCK is activated. Because of this skill, Constantine is not applicable for the Ruler class.
- Charisma (B) - Rank suitable for a king of a country. Constantine ruled over the Roman Empire and instilled great loyalty into his people to the point that his men were unwilling to betray Constantine even when they were offered money by the opposing side. He was a king loved by many and was even referred to as the ''Greatest Augustus'' in his time.
- Military Tactics (B) - Tactical knowledge used not for one-on-one combat situations, but for battles where many are mobilized. Constantine the Great was a magnificent military leader who led numerous successful military campaigns during his life-time. Notably, he utterly destroyed any of the opposing Roman emperors and rebels that were trying to take him down from power. Maximian, Licinius, and most importantly Maxentius all suffered major defeats at the hands of Constantine contrary to the belief of his generals and strategists who thought Constantine had unfavourable chances against Maxentius whose army was twice as large. Furthermore, he pursed successful campaigns against the tribes on the Roman frontiers - such as the Franks, the Alamanni, the Goths and the Sarmantians - and even resettled territories abandoned by his predecessors during the Crisis of the 3rd Century.
- Divine Protection (A) - A skill that grants the user the quick-wittedness and brute strength to defeat enemies unaided. It is a sign that the owner is protected by beings of higher existence. During his life time, Constantine was popularly believed to have had the supernatural guidance of numerous Gods and Goddesses. He was believed to have had the affections of both Apollo and Victoria who had granted him golden laurel wreaths of good health and long reign. It was even said that he was granted the ''rule of the World'' by Apollo. More importantly, however, is the affection granted to him by the Christ who aided him in the battle against Maxentius.
Noble Phantasm(s)...
Last edited by Adlet; October 23rd, 2016 at 09:56 AM.
Okay, here's mine:
Class: Ruler (Proto-Ruler)/Avenger (Josiah Alter)
Name: Yosiyyahu (Josiah)
Alias: The Last Good King of Jerusalem, The Ideal Ruler
Alignment: Lawful Good
Region: Judah, Israel.
Origin: Biblical History
H/W: 175cm/55kg
Gender: Male
Attribute: Fire
Likes: Conversating with God, Imposing laws, destroying images that represented false gods.
Dislikes: Idolatrous people and people who didn't follow the stipulations of the law.
Talents: Leading the people with fairness and justice.
Natural enemy: Asshurbanipal, Shamashumukin, Sinsharishkun, Asshurubalit and Necho II.
Armaments: Sword, Armor, Devarim Scroll (Deuteronomy)
Trait: Human
Str: B
End: B
Agi: B
Mna: B+
Lck: B
NP: A+
Class Skills:
Magic Resistance: A+
Cancel all spells at the A+ rank.
Justice: EX
He can rule with justice and mercy to all men.
Personal Skill:
Divinity: C
Being one of the Ancestors of Christ, Josiah cannot escape the sacraments but he can use the Noble Phantasm: Pesach (Progenitor of Eucharist)
Zeal: A
With his Zeal, Josiah can raise all attributes as well by his burning zeal.
Charisma: B+
King Josiah was respected by his people even biblical scholars whom they called him 'The most Ideal Ruler of the Kingdom of Judah.'
Noble Phantasm:
Devarim (The Fundamental Law of the Land) : A+++ (Anti-City)
Josiah's Noble Phantasm that enacts the Commandments and Precepts of his Kingdom. The Blessings and Curses and other laws.
Bethel (Flaming Sword that punishes all gods) : C-EX (Anti-Unit, Anti-Divine)
With his zeal, Josiah can materialize his fire sword to destroy other servants that depends on Divinity attribute.
Pesach (Progenitor of the Sacrament of Holy Eucharist) : C-EX (Anti-Unit, Anti-Divine, All Allies) (Ruler Class)
Josiah can activate Pesach while his Zeal is at A+++ and traps an opponent, delivering a single fatal blow and blood flows to the grail, purifying it from corruption and heals all allied servants not counting the allies' masters. This can use if the opponent has Divinity attribute of any rank.
Megiddo (Baptism of Final Onslaught) : A+ (Anti-World) (Avenger Class)
It seems God activates Josiah as an Avenger class after his demise right before the fall of Jerusalem, he changes the landscape into the bloody one and incinerates them with the flames of his wrath.
I can see a lot of work was put into that Constantine sheet. IMO, Duality seems unnecessary - you could just make a Constantine Alter sheet or something.
Also, to me, bootleg Ramesseum Tentyris makes him more fit to be mid-boss or final boss than protagonist.
For one thing... who is this guy, exactly? You're making him out to be quite the big-shot with his NPs and Skills, but I've literally never heard of him before and you give no lore summary to explain why the heck he's so important. Also, the sheet feels... really sparse overall. For most of his NPs, it's not at all clear why he should have them in terms of lore or what the effects even are (for instance, based on the description given I have no idea what his Devarim NP does, though I can guess).
He's also extremely powerful but, in absence of any explanation as to his lore, I can't say for sure how wanked he is. I get the feeling by quite a lot, though.
And if he's a Ruler, Class Skills should be Magic Resistance (which you got right), True Name Discernment and God's Resolution, not 'Justice'. Also, I don't think spells even have + modifiers to be honest so the description for Magic Resistance doesn't really make sense. Not saying he can't have it at that rank (though frankly I have some doubts whether he deserves it), but the effect should be worded in some other way.
Overall, the idea behind this sheet isn't necessarily bad but it's quite unpolished and needs a lot more detail to stand at the level of others here. Sorry.
Well the idea with Duality was to give him something like Innocent Monster, but not out-right Innocent Monster since it doesn't really affect his physical appearance or anything like that. This is because people view him in conflicting ways with the Christians thinking he's a saint and the scholars thinking he's a tyrant so I wanted to use it as a way to spice him up a bit and give a reason why he can't be summoned as a Ruler.
Constantine Alter doesn't seem like something that would work given what I made the effects of his first NP. Since he could just activate it in the case where he's fighting Grail mud, unless we're talking about him in the Rider class where I said he doesn't have it.
And I guess your point about him being a final or mid boss is fair. Didn't really think about it that way since I kind of made him a good guy this time around instead of going with the maybe good but kinda sociopathic type guy I did with Yamato Takeru and Juan Ponce de Leon.
I mean Alter as in him being evil. His evil side. GO teaches us not all Alters are Angra's doing.
Being a good guy doesn't prevent one from being a boss - Karna in Apocrypha, for example.
Oh, you mean a Grail creation like Jeanne Alter? Well, fair enough. That evaded my thought.
And I am aware. Karna's case is just a bit of a rare case since most of the bosses have some ulterior motive, which is why I didn't really think of it that way while typing that post. I do agree that he'd make up for a good boss though.
Grail creation, or even just "another side" of the Servant, really. Like how there's young prince Iskandar and big conqueror Iskandar. Good boy knight-king Constantine and evil overlord Constantine.
Hm. I could really see him being the final boss of a story with an Archer protag, and Duality would be good for that. Loses his temple halfway through, gets ultra-pissed, Duality gets triggered permanently, and final battle is vs. Immune-to-Arrows Evil Constantine.
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