I did once try to figure out what stats and skills Angra Mainyu had once.
I'll see if I can dig it up...
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This was the old Avenger sheet I made two or three years ago:
Class: Avenger
Master:
True Name: ****** *****, All the World Evils (Angra Mainyu)
Sex: Male
Height/Weight: 167cm/58kg
Alignment: Neutral ‘Evil’
Appearance: This… sort of.This is what he really looks like, apparently.
Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: D
Magical Energy: E
Luck: E-
Noble Phantasm: D
Class Skills:
???
(Independent Action: A+)?
(Counter Hero: C)?
Personal Skills:
Human Slayer: A
Verg Avesta: A+
Innocent Monster: EX
Divinity (False): EX
Noble Phantasm:
Verg Avesta: D
Tawrich, the Left Fang Grinder: E-
Zarich, the Right Fang Grinder: E-
and this was the one I made earlier last year, before I joined Beast's Lair, that I've touched up a bit to my current standards:
Class: Avenger
Master:
True Name: ****** *****, All the World Evils (Angra Mainyu)
Sex: Male
Height/Weight: 167cm/58kg
Alignment: Neutral ‘Evil’
Strength: E
Endurance: E
Agility: E
Magical Energy: E
Luck: E-
Noble Phantasm: D
Class Skills:
Reason to Suffer: EX
Similar to the Innocent Monster skill, Reason to Suffer deals with how others perceive the Servant is possession of this skill. Instead of altering their appearance and/or abilities based on the perception of the Heroic Spirit like Innocent Monster does, Reason to Suffer forces others to perceive this Servant as evil and the source of their suffering/misfortune.
Being All the World’s Evils, Avenger's rank in this skill is so high that it causes everyone in the world, whether they believe in him or even know of him, to subconsciously hate him and blame him for all of their problems.
Personal Skills:
Information Erasure: ??? (A+++)
The removal of information regarding the Servant's true name, abilities, and appearance from the records and memories of all witnesses, including the opponent, following the conclusion of an engagement.
Avenger’s ranking in this skill is hard to qualify, as it does not affect his identity as Angra Mainyu, but rather his identity as the villager who was sacrificed to become All the World’s Evils. At this rank, even Akasha does not recognize the existence of ****** *****.
Masochistic Constitution: E
A skill that increases the chances of being targeted by enemies in group battles. It appears to be a minus skill, but for a Servant with strong defensive capabilities, possessing this skills allows them to function as an excellent escort.
Avenger’s generally just an aggravating presence, people wishing to do him harm is the norm.
Darkness of Humanity: EX
A skill reserved for those who were enlightened upon just how evil humans can be, it bears some resemblance to the Human Observation skill in that it grants the Servant who has it the ability to understand people, although Darkness of Humanity only allows them to see the inner darkness of the person they are observing.
At this rank, it also functions as a low rank in Eye of the Mind (False) or Instinct, allowing Avenger to sense how his opponent is most likely to attack him.
Noble Phantasm:
Verg Avesta: D
Tawrich & Zarich, the Left & Right Fang Grinders: X
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I was really bad at designing Servant when I made the first sheet, as you can see by the lack of text explaining what any of those Skills do. If I remember correctly, I tried to make allusions to Shirou/Archer when designing him.
With the second one, I tried to make him the really weak Servant he's supposed to be, while explaining how he's able to fight defensively fairly well. I think I did alright.
Last edited by Crying; March 19th, 2016 at 07:56 AM. Reason: I dug it up
Seems good. It fits Avengers themes and is very accepting of his canonical weaknesses and limitations. Love the 'Reason to Suffer' skill, it looks like something I had planned for a Caster!Pandora servant but I wasn't sure how I could put a unique spin on her.
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I look forward to a renaissance of edgelord Avenger sheets in this thread.
The Count has vindicated you all.
It will be a bubble economy. Once info on the Avenger class (skills) are revealed, there will be an over inflation of avengers with servants like the man in the iron mask and then after a month of vengence, no one will touch an avenger for weeks, but the edge will remain with characters Like Sir Balin - the edgiest knight of camelot.
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Better yet, Avenger Kerry
Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.
Hey, I'm not going to be jumping on the Servant Edgelord bandwagon anytime soon. probably.
I just remembered that I'd made an Angry Manjew sheet and I thought I'd put it up.
please don't hate me, i crave the praise of people on the internet.
i mean the count has the whole embodiment of revenge/vengeance down-pat. who else would even qualify
surely it's not just anyone who wanted revenge in life
From what i read from Dantes profile it seems that to be Avenger you need to have a vengeance, though it seems to be more than just a personal grudge but more as a way of living(like sasuke from naruto). About class skills, only two from him (Avenger and Oblivion Correction) really fit it but theirs no explanation for them as of yet though, we probably won't find out until they decide to release Angra Mainyu.
Last edited by Iceblade44; March 18th, 2016 at 11:10 PM.
Oh, Itto Ogami as an Avenger!
I could probably throw together an "Avenger Shirou" sheet without too much effort.
But I won't, because I've already added too much edge to this thread.
Anyways, anybody got any suggestions on what Servant I should make next?
I'm stuck on ideas currently.
Well, that's not true. I do have one I'm working on, but I feel like p̶r̶o̶c̶r̶a̶s̶t̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ taking a break from it.
I'm working on some Servants from the Trojan war, perhaps you could out your own spin on one of the less common ones like Paris, Agamemnon or Cassandra...
Or do what I am and work on an OP Odysseus and Diomedes.
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Hippocrates, the Father of Medicine
Appearance
Place of birth: Kos Island
STR: E
END: A+
AGI: E
MAG: A+
LUCK: C
NP: A+
Class Skills
Item Construction (B): The skill to manufacture magical items. Caster specializes in creating medicine, and as a result can create powerful healing potions. His ability to create other items is limited.
Territory Creation (A): The skill to build a special terrain that is advantageous to oneself as a magus. Creation of a Temple, which is superior to a Workshop, becomes possible. In Caster’s case, he can,by using his Noble Phantasm, convert his Temple into a Hospital, which grants boosts to healing magecraft.
Personal Skills
White Magic (A): The ability to use magecraft that has a healing and supportive effect. As he is from the age of gods, Caster has a skill level beyond that of modern mages and, apart from using his magic to heal his allies, he can also use it to raise physical strength and defense, create wards and mirrors against curses and other offensive magecraft and hasten physical and mental reaction times. There is also the implicit ability to use this kind of magecraft offensively, to lower enemy abilities in the same way that allied parameters are boosted, but Caster’s Noble Phantasm limits this effect.
Surgical Procedure (B): the capability of surgical repair with use of a sharp instrument, applicable to the Servant or his Master. Hippocrates was an early pioneer in the field of cardiothoracic surgery, with updated versions of some of his techniques still in use today. With the assistance of an opioid drug in place of anaesthetic, Caster is capable of fast and efficient surgical repair if the situation demands it.
Gift of Wisdom (C): Similar to, but weaker than, the Divine Gift of Wisdom skill, this version of it comes purely from mortal intellect and cunning. In this case, Caster is able to instruct others about the use of his medical and surgical techniques. Due to differences between ancient and modern systems, however, his ability to pass on his magecraft is limited. Furthermore, it is impossible to deny the fact that for the most part, his medical techniques are horribly out of date, though by applying them with magical aid may prove beneficial to some extent.
Noble Phantasms
Caduceus – First, do no harm (Anti-Self, Anti-Ally, Support, A): The symbol of the god Asclepius, a staff with the image of a serpent wrapped around it, which Hippocrates uses to channel his magic. Though it is imbued with powerful white magic, it in itself is not a Noble Phantasm, instead representing Hippocrates’s covenant with the gods of healing and medicine to use his powers to heal instead of harm.
Hippocratic Oath – Physician’s Vow: The covenant tied to the Caduceus, the oath that Hippocrates and his disciples took to only use their knowledge for benevolent purposes. So long as they swear by the oath and the Caduceus, Hippocrates can share his powers with another, however should the wielder go against the terms of the oath, their powers will immediately be stripped away. Even Hippocrates himself is not free from this binding, making him a difficult Servant to utilise, as he cannot harm others.
The oath
Asklepieion – The Temple of Healing (Anti-Territory, A+): A reality marble that Hippocrates can only invoke inside his claimed territory representing the Temple (Hospital) of Asclepius, the god of medicine, on Kos, where Hippocrates received his training. The temple is guarded by the sacred serpents of the god, powerful Phantasmal beasts who will not harm those who enter seeking sanctuary, but will turn on those who enter with hostile intentions. The world’s main enchantment is simple: none can die within its walls, be they ally or enemy. Note that it will not automatically heal wounds, so it is very likely that someone who sustains severe injuries within the temple will drop dead upon leaving it. As it is a Reality Marble, it is difficult to sustain for long periods of time.
Lore
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Guess who's been playing too much Final Fantasy?
spoilers it was me
Wow, you did a Hippocrates sheet? I was thinking of doing one too! Not like you "beat me to it" or anything though, I abandoned the idea as unworkable since his "due no harm" oath would make him pretty much useless in the kill-or-be-killed atmosphere of the War. For that reason, I can't see who would ever summon the guy intentionally. Though if it was someone like Shirou who got involved with the War against their will, he'd be a defensive Servant par none.
My NP idea for him would be "Physician's Cure", a special elixir which has the power to cure even death itself, bringing someone back from the dead and into 100% working condition. But it can only be used once, and he only has one such vial on his person to balance it.
Even our faceclaim ideas were similar (silver hair and braid), funnily enough.
Meh, everyone's done that. There's no real fun in that anymore, IMO.
Anyway, time for a new Servant.
Scamandros
Avenger
AKA Astyanax, Crown Prince of Troy, Son of Hector
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STR E
AGI E
EN E
MA E
LU E
Class Skills:Avenger B
A disposition towards vengeance against those who have wronged the Servant.
While it boosts damage towards those he feels wrath towards, it also boosts the damage they do to him.
His targets are those that killed his father and sacked "his" city; the Achaeans, those who we today call the Greeks.
On winning the Grail, he would wish that all of them were wiped from the face of the earth.
Personal Skills:Charisma E
The rare talent of being able to lead armies or even countries.
Scamandros and his father were beloved by the people of Troy, so much so that they called him Astyanax, meaning "high king" or "overlord of the city".
Reflecting the desires of the Trojan people during the sacking of their city to find justice for what the Greeks did to them, Scamandros' personality was twisted into that of a "Natural Avenger".
Presence Concealment E
Was hidden in his father's tomb so the invaders would not find him. Sadly, however, they did, leading to his death.
The ability to hide one's presence as a Servant. At this rank, it is barely suitable for spying.
Noble Phantasm:Ilium ~ Father O Father, If I Could See You Again ~ Anti-Unit(Self) C
A Noble Phantasm taking the form of weaponry. More specifically, the armour of Avenger's father, Hector.
While it would have fit badly on men who didn't share Hector's robust frame, it fits even worse on Scamander's prepubescent body; it is, plainly put, much too large for him, and hinders more than it helps him outside of fights.
But. Its status as a heirloom - his only heirloom - has given it one ability, which is the foundation of Scamandros' fighting style; it contains a reproduction of the spirit of his father, guiding him gently and helping him lift the heavy armour when he otherwise couldn't have.
It boosts his parameters to be one rank less than those of Hector, meaning he has Strength, Endurance, Magic, and Luck of the rank C and Agility of B. However, this requires a constant flow of mana, meaning for reasons of efficiency in combat, it is often only at half-strength.
Also included is the spear Durindana, though Scamandros never learned to activate and use it in life like his father did.
Background
Notes:
I saw you guys were talking about the Trojan War and Avengers. So here we are: a Trojan Avenger. His story is tragic yet relatively unknown, but I think he makes a pretty good Avenger nonetheless.
I left out the other class skill of Avenger, Oblivion Correction(?), because I honestly didn't know what it's supposed to do in lore. If we ever find out, maybe I'll edit it in.
...It's kind of odd Hector's profile doesn't mention Scamandros or Andromache at all.
asterism42 - Hippocrates seems cool. It's nice to see a pacifist/support servant and see how they'd work, he makes an excellent healer/white mage.
NMR-3 - I haven't made them yet and I've done my own versions of Uther and Roland (who have been done a lot in the past) but I've only been here a few months so eh. Anyways, about Scamandros. Very interesting to see this form as he was a baby when he died. The stats make sense as do the personal skills. The Noble Phantasm is great stuff, making him a lesser Lancer in combat. He seems like he'd be a very plot heavy servant.
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I actually made Diomedes. I know he's been done before but after seeing Scamandros I wanted to make him myself.
Class: Lancer (Can be summoned as a Rider or Shielder)
True Name: Diomedes, King of Argos
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Place of Origin: Greece
Strength- B+
Endurance- B
Agility- A
Mana- E
Luck- B
NP- A
Height/Weight: 181cm/85kg
Likes: Strong Women, Challenging the powerful
Dislikes: Interference, Restriction
Talents: Humiliating Gods
Natural Enemy: Zeus, Scathach
Class Skills:
- Magic Resistance (B) - Cancel spells with a chant below three verses. Even if targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for them to be affected.
Personal Skills:
- Affection of the Goddess (B) - Comradery of Athena, Goddess of Tactical Warfare. Other than Mana and Luck, all stats are Ranked-Up.
- Battle Continuation (C) - Capable of ignoring all penalties that damage might cause while still suffering in the end through amassed battle damage.
- Berserk (B) - A skill that permit the user to enter a state of controlled rage. He was known for entering a savage fury on the battlefield without losing his mind.
- Divinity (C) - The measure of whether one has Divine Spirit aptitude or not. At high levels one is treated as a mixed race of a Divine Spirit, and the level declines when the Heroic Spirit's own rank as a Monster, Demonic Beast raises. It can also decrease due one's dislike for the gods. It also has an effect which reduces special defensive values called "purge defense" in proportion to the Divinity's Rank. It can break through Skills such as Protection of the Faith and Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig. Ascended to Olympus after death by Athena's side as a god of war.
- Pure Eyes of Clarity (B) - A gift from Athena. This skill gives Diomedes the ability to identify Divine Spirits, as well as servants with the Divinity skill.
Noble Phantasm
Lore
I'm too lazy to do him in the other classes right now.
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...Is that faceclaim Genos from One Punch Man by any chance? Hard to tell from the angle but the spiky hair, facial structure, bright neon eyes and mechanical looking armor kinda' remind me of him.
The sheet itself seems fine, if not standing out terribly much from some of the other Diomedes sheets I've seen. Interesting how you chose to give him that Berserk Skill Beowulf had in GO. I presume it doesn't provide stat boosts unlike Mad Enhancement. Wasn't really aware of Diomedes tending to go 'berserk' particularly, I'm sure he was pretty scary in battle but not more so then say, Achilles, who didn't have any such Skill (then again, it wasn't invented yet when Apocrypha came out). Mystic Eyes Of Clarity is also a nice touch.
Berserk doesn't give stars boost, they just get really angry. I gave him the skill as he was said to be as ferocious as Achilles, but he never lost his sanity.
His face claim is oslwad from Odin core, I found it on danborru but it didn't have the link to the original source.
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Nice Diomedes sheet. Makes me wanna redo my own... and he'd be slightly more OP
Although, I do believe that Mystic Eyes specifically interfere with the world, whereas Pure Eyes let you see what cannot be normally seen.
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