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    Cuauhtémoc:
    Can't say I'm particularly fond of this one. Not that there's anything outright bad with it but as you said it's sparse and a bit bland which only serves to make it a bit forgettable to be honest. I'd recommend a second NP or an original skill. I get that it's been a while and in many places 'less is more' but it just doesn't work for me I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    Cuauhtémoc:
    Can't say I'm particularly fond of this one. Not that there's anything outright bad with it but as you said it's sparse and a bit bland which only serves to make it a bit forgettable to be honest. I'd recommend a second NP or an original skill. I get that it's been a while and in many places 'less is more' but it just doesn't work for me I'm afraid.
    Yeah, I see what you mean. Do you think it could work to give him an original Skill like the Honorable Warrior you used for your old Aife sheet or an NP based on how he was the last emperor of the Aztecs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Yeah, I see what you mean. Do you think it could work to give him an original Skill like the Honorable Warrior you used for your old Aife sheet or an NP based on how he was the last emperor of the Aztecs?
    Why not, may as well go for it.

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    You could give him Glory of The Past to represent the fall of the Aztecs. Soul of a Martyr would also be fitting.

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    BERSERKER

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    True Name: Diomedes
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    Attribute: Earth
    Gender: Male
    Height: 193cm
    Weight: 94kg
    Place of Origin: Greece
    Armament: Sword, Spear, Shield, Armor
    Likes: Athena, Fate, Victory
    Dislikes: Achilles, Odysseus
    Talents: Being a 'professional' hero and politician
    Natural Enemy: Aphrodite, Hector, Aeneas
    Image Colour: Noble Red
    Eligible Servant Classes: Lancer, Rider, Berserker, Assassin, Shielder

    PARAMETERS

    STR: A
    END: A
    AGI: A+
    MAN: B
    LUK: A+
    NP: A

    CLASS SKILLS

    Mad Enhancement: B

    By discarding one's sanity, a large boost in fighting capability is achieved. It raises basic parameters in exchange of hindering mental capacities. With this Skill's rank, all parameters are ranked up, but takes away most of Diomedes' sanity. Most emotions and reasoning is lost, leaving only his instincts intact.

    PERSONAL SKILLS

    Divine Protection: EX

    A form of divine protection that is perhaps the ultimate divine protection. Diomedes' form of divine protection is having the protector be constantly around his person, protecting him from all harm and misfortune. This protector is Athena, the Greek goddess of war and the patron of Diomedes. Even back during the Trojan War, Athena gave many of her advice, blessings, and divine protections before and during battles to her favorite warrior, even doing so in his vicinity and sight, and in some cases, having to physically intervene in order to protect the Greek warrior. It is not exaggerated that because of this, Diomedes has received the most direct divine help and protection out of anyone who participated in the Trojan War.

    This Skill gives Diomedes the quick-wittedness and the brute strength needed to defeat his opposition, as well as a multitude of blessings, including Pure Eyes that can see Divine Spirits in their true forms, even if they are disguised or are putting up a facade, as well as seeing who is immortal, divine, and/or divinely protected. He receives a rank-up to his Strength, Endurance and Agility as well as a replenishment to his mana supply in situations where with this increase in parameters and replenishment of mana, Diomedes can then defeat his opponent. If an enemy's Skill or Noble Phantasm is directed at Diomedes and requires the invocation of Athena, then that Skill or Noble Phantasm will not activate, as Athena favors Diomedes over all others. Furthermore, Diomedes' Luck stat is unable to be decreased by any Skill or Noble Phantasm, and for one time only per battle, one of two powerful effects can happen; either an attack that would have fatally wound Diomedes would be negated by Athena's direct intervention, or, were an attack be performed by Diomedes that can fatally wound his opponent but cannot be done at the moment, Athena's direct intervention can make that situation possible for Diomedes to execute the fatal attack, and only in a situation where if the fatal attack did not happen, then Diomedes would be at an extremely high risk of being killed afterwards.

    Even when summoned as a Servant, it seems that this divine protection that surrounds Diomedes isn't being done remotely like a blessing, but as if the patron is actually there with him...

    Bravery: A++

    Diomedes’ bravery was blessed into his heart by Athena for the former being the 'perfect embodiment of heroic values’. While there are many brave men, most if not all succumbed to their own pride and charged forth into battle not with a brave heart, but with a mad mind as a result of exhibiting their hubris. Diomedes however never committed hubris in his act of bravery. Thus, his bravery has transcended the 'human heart' and has achieved perfection in what an ideal hero should have shown to others while having never succumbed into madness. Admittedly, this bravery was not earned due to Diomedes' own natural abilities despite displaying the perfect heroism, but it was unlocked through Athena's divine blessings.

    This Skill gives Diomedes the ability to negate mental interference such as pressure, confusion and fascination while also giving the bonus effect of increasing melee damage by a rank. At Rank A++, this Skill can also negate madness as if it were a mental interference, including the madness aspect of Mad Enhancement, and thus, this Skill is usable while under Mad Enhancement despite the lower ranks of the Bravery Skill being unable to do so. Any form of madness with a rank equivalent to the Bravery Skill and below will not affect Diomedes.

    Eye of the Mind (True): B

    A heightened capacity for observation, refined through training, discipline and experience. A danger-avoidance ability that utilizes the intelligence collected up to the current time as the basis, in order to predict the opponent’s activity and change the current situation. This is not a result of talent, but an overwhelming amount of combat experience. A weapon wielded by none other than a mortal, gained through tenacious training. Diomedes is capable of calm analysis of battle conditions even when in danger and deduce an appropriate course of action after considering all possibilities to escape from a predicament. So long there is even a 1% chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning. Although he was the youngest of all Achaean kings during the war, Diomedes is considered the most experienced leader among them, having fought more battles than others, including the most important war expedition before the Trojan War, the Epigoni War.

    Battle Fury: A

    A Skill that becomes active when the user engages in a battle. One's fighting style, mannerisms and expressions are all filled with divine fury and controlled rage and are violently displayed to the point that people looking at it are filled with panic and fear. Just by initiating combat and engaging in battle is a form of mental interference to those who looks upon and engages the fighter, lowering their morale to the lowest to the point that they wish to flee, and inducing a rank down to their Strength and Agility so as long as they continue to remain in an encounter with the fighter. This mental interference affects anyone within the battlefield, whether they are an ally or an enemy of the fighter. A Luck Check is initiated only once for each combat session when encountering this mental interference for the first time, and should it fail, the person will be stunned for a turn as if he or she were frozen in fear.

    It is through this Skill that Diomedes is qualified to be a Berserker, having exhibited intense and near uncontrollable rage whenever he is in battle as if it is his own 'battle trance'. This trance is amplified to the maximum when he engages in battle with gods and those with Divinity, having at one point in his past life disregarded Athena's advice when engaging in battle with a Greek god. A Luck Check for Diomedes occurs in the beginning of battle and for every five turns while in combat with a god or a divine person, and should it fail, then this berserk characteristic will override the mental protection provided by his Bravery Skill, forcing Diomedes to continue on as an enraged warrior who is adamant in defeating his divine opponent while refusing to heed to any reasoning. While in such a fully tranced state, he cannot use his Noble Phantasms' active abilities and his Bravery and Eye of the Mind (True) Skills becomes disabled, becoming an actual insane and full-fledged Berserker.


    NOBLE PHANTASMS

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    Polúmētis Thó̱rakas (Resourceful Cuirass): God-Forged Armor

    CLASS: Anti-Unit (Self)

    RANK: B+

    A golden cuirass emblazoned with a crest of the boar; it is the most trusted armor of Diomedes, forged by the Greek blacksmith god Hephaestus. It is a Divine Construct filled with a divine magical presence. Even those who lack the skill to sense and perceive mana would feel a divine essence emanating from the armor, as if there was a god present in the flesh among mortals. It was referred to as impenetrable during Diomedes' usage of the armor during the Trojan War. This defensive, continuously active Noble Phantasm exhibits a unique protection that differs from other defensive Noble Phantasms. Its defensive strength feeds on the physical and magical prowess of those around Diomedes, regardless if they are friend or foe to the hero. It reduces the Strength, Endurance, Agility and Mana parameters by one rank of all those nearby, and these stolen parameters are converted into the armor’s defensive strength, added to the armor’s base defensive level. Naturally, the cumulative effect brought upon as a result of being in a battlefield where many warriors are gathered and fighting, such as in the Trojan War, was an absurdity. However, there is a limit to its maximum defensive strength, only capable of reaching defenses on a level of a B+ Noble Phantasm when fighting against and/or among up to four other Servants (due to the modern era's lack of Mystery, the armor cannot use its full power). Additionally, this protection only extends to the armament Diomedes has on, and will not extend that protection over his exposed flesh. And furthermore, if somehow the divine essence of the magical energy residing inside the armor is suppressed or removed, such as through an ability that reduces Mystery for example, then the protection will be disabled.

    There is a hidden trump card to this Noble Phantasm, and the ability is referred to as the 'Diomedian Swap', referring to the famous anecdote where Diomedes swapped one of his lesser quality armor with a Trojan's armor that is worth tenfold over his traded armor. This ability only works on other armor-class/defensive Skills or Noble Phantasms and one of two conditions must be fulfilled: either Diomedes witness the defensive Skill or Noble Phantasm's ability in action, or Diomedes knows the name of the Skill or Noble Phantasm without seeing the ability in action. Once the required knowledge is obtained, Diomedes can initiate the transfer process by saying "With the Diomedian Swap, I hereby switch my Polúmētis Thó̱rakas with [Servant's Skill or Noble Phantasm]", and the defensive ability of his Noble Phantasm will be switched with the defensive ability of the specified Skill or Noble Phantasm of the other target. There is no mana cost for swapping his Noble Phantasm with a target's defensive Skill. This ability switch is permanent, and the only way to revert it is if Diomedes dies, he willfully cancels it, or the crest of the boar on his golden armor is destroyed. Furthermore, Diomedes retains the inherent weaknesses of his own golden armor rather than getting the weaknesses of the specified defensive Skill or Noble Phantasm that he obtained from the target. He cannot use this hidden ability more than once unless he cancels the stolen ability he had obtained before.

    Furthermore, this armor grants Diomedes a Divinity Skill of Rank B for as long as he wears it due to its divine magical presence. Only the armor is treated as the ‘Divine Spirit’, and not Diomedes’ mortal body. However, any of Diomedes’ actions are counted as the “actions of a Divine Spirit” due to his legend (While fully mortal back in his past life, Diomedes was made an immortal god at the end of his lifespan by Athena, further deified as a divine being by his worshipers afterwards), even if some of them are done with his fully mortal body, and any of his attacks has the effect of ‘purge defense’.

    Aspída ti̱s Aito̱likí̱s Kápros (Shield of the Aetolian Boar): Flamethrower of the War Goddess

    CLASS: Anti-Army

    RANK: A

    A silver round shield bearing the mark of the Aetolian Boar; while it is a shield, the Noble Phantasm ability does not emphasis its usage as a defensive armament. Rather, by calling out the name of this Noble Phantasm, Diomedes can use this shield to unleash a flaring stream of divine fire from the emblazoned boar's mark in the form of a wide-ranging and destructive flamethrower meant for Anti-Army usage. The divine origin of the fire comes from Athena, the Greek war goddess, who interjected her divine magical energy into Diomedes' shield for offensive usage back in the Trojan War. The fire is of the highest class, containing immeasurable heat that is meant to burn mortal flesh to the bones and within. However, it is not meant to be used on those of divine origin, so those with Divinity or Divine Protection or other similar divine aptitude-related Skills would take damage comparable to a B-Rank Noble Phantasm instead.

    Mana usage is heightened if this Noble Phantasm was used to unleash a continuous stream of fire in the form of a flamethrower. On the other hand, this Noble Phantasm can unleash a brief burst of fire in the form of a fireball instead, which is much more mana-efficient should Diomedes decide that the flamethrower option is not necessary; this alternative attack does not require the Noble Phantasm's name to be called upon. Additionally, this Noble Phantasm can unleash a homing attack, but a set-up is required. The set-up is done by marking someone with the mark of the Aetolian Boar through successfully ramming the shield into the desired target. The eyes of the Aetolian Boar on the shield would light up with flaring divine fire, indicating contact was successful. Then, Diomedes calls upon the name of this Noble Phantasm after a successful mark, and the released fire, taking on the form of a narrow yet still destructive flamethrower, would relentlessly pursue the marked target until the life of the 'prey' fades away from the flames.

    Athi̱naïkí̱ Orgí̱ (Athenian Wrath): Intervention-Reversing Spear

    CLASS: Anti-Divine

    RANK: B

    This Noble Phantasm is the thrown attack of Diomedes' spear that once harmed full-fledged gods in the middle of the Trojan War. The attack takes on the form of a simple, straight-forward spear throw done with all of Diomedes' strength, yet the spear throw can home in on its target due to how Athena influenced it in the past during the war by interjecting her divine magical energy into it to make it a homing projectile. The target is chosen by Diomedes throwing the spear towards him or her with pinpoint accuracy; if Diomedes misses his desired target, or if the target is not actually divine, then the spear tracks the nearest divine target unless that particular target is not present in the conflict. Due to its properties of harming a god before, it can ignore all Divine Protection of the target to ensure harm is done to the divine target. However, this Noble Phantasm falls one step short of being a god-slaying Noble Phantasm, and thus, the ability can never kill; if the target does dies, it means that he or she has actually died from the damage of the spear throw.

    The spear throw, imbued with divine energy, is unremarkable by itself, simply a Noble Phantasm that does a B-Rank worth of damage (or roughly an A+ physical damage). It is merely a medium for the Noble Phantasm's ability to activate, which it does upon inflicting a wound to a divine target. Any wound caused by this Noble Phantasm would incur a seal on a percentage of the target's Skills and Noble Phantasms collectively, the percentage varying based on the target's Divinity rank, from 20% on those with E-Rank Divinity to 100% on those with A-Rank Divinity and above. For seals with a percentage lower than the full 100%, what Skills and Noble Phantasms are sealed first would be those that could potentially influence or intervene in the ongoing conflict; in other words, abilities that can still cause interference within the battle even if the target has left the battlefield. Once those Skills and Noble Phantasms are sealed, and if more sealing is required, the other remaining non-intervening Skills and Noble Phantasms would be randomly chosen to be sealed.

    The purpose of the seal is to force the target to flee the battle, just as how the Greek gods have left the battlefield of the Trojan War upon being wounded by Diomedes' spear. The target can stay behind and still adamantly fight, but they are at a disadvantage with the seal affecting their arsenal. The seal can only be unlocked when the wound 'naturally' heals, and the wound would not start healing until they are out of combat for at least half a day. However, if the target is forced into a different battle within that time period, the seal temporarily unlocks their Skills and Noble Phantasms, but the wound would still not be able to be healed, naturally or otherwise.

    Agapiména tis Athinás (Athena's Favorite): War Goddess's Patronage

    CLASS: Anti-Unit

    RANK: EX

    A Noble Phantasm hidden from Diomedes' Servant status page. It is the Noble Phantasm that represents Athena's devotion and patronage to Diomedes. It is a continuously active-type Noble Phantasm that actually brings forth Athena from the Throne of Gods, and this Noble Phantasm represents Athena's presence in the Holy Grail War. While normally impossible to summon an authentic Divine Spirit, in order for this scenario to become possible, Athena's rank as a spirit has to be temporarily degraded from the Divine Spirit rank to the Heroic Spirit rank, and the circumstances of her accompaniment is made possible largely due to Diomedes' legend as the most favored warrior of all the warriors Athena has favored before back in Greek Mythology, as well as due to the situations that unfolded from their tight-knit bond.

    In this state, Athena is considered a Servant that is branched off from her Heroic Spirit self, and she is always invisible to everyone's eyes, including Diomedes'. Her presence is largely dormant and inactive, and unless there is a user with an ability to detect presences or has highly keen perceptions that can allow one to discern an invisible presence, her presence is generally undetectable. For as long as Athena is nearby Diomedes, the latter will be given the Divine Protection Skill, his Bravery Skill will receive a rank-up, and he is able to use the Aspída ti̱s Aito̱likí̱s Kápros and Athi̱naïkí̱ Orgí̱ Noble Phantasms. Additionally, the aforementioned Noble Phantasms cannot be sealed and is always able to be activated, regardless of the situations presented and even if Diomedes lacks the sufficient mana. After all, it is Athena's interjection of her own magical energy that allows them to be used, and the seals must target Athena herself and be resolved around her nature as a Divine Spirit and the Goddess of War in order to successfully seal the aforementioned Noble Phantasms' usage.

    Aside from the benefits listed above, Athena can independently act if she so chooses and does not need to remain passive. However, leaving Diomedes' side in terms of their physical distances to each other will disable all the listed benefits. Also, if Athena becomes more active, her presence is more easily detectable. Even then, not many can discern and fend off an invisible Servant attacking them from out of nowhere. Athena possesses her own sets of parameters and can also invoke the Aspída ti̱s Aito̱likí̱s Kápros and Athi̱naïkí̱ Orgí̱ Noble Phantasms independently from Diomedes and by herself, although she must physically wield the Noble Phantasms. She also possesses the Hades's Cap of Invisibility Noble Phantasm, the source of her invisibility.



    LORE

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    Diomedes is a famous hero in Greek mythology with numerous exceptional accomplishments and displays of nobility. He was born to his father Tydeus as an Aetolian and to his mother Deipyle as an Argive. At that time of birth, Tydeus was part of the Seven Against Thebes, an expedition force meant to capture the ancient city of Thebes due to an inner dispute of Thebes' royalty. However, the seven leaders of the expedition have all perished in battle. The sons of these seven leaders met up during their fathers' funeral and vowed to vanquish Thebes one day in the future, with Diomedes being only four at that time. Even then, he clearly understood what he vowed to, and they named themselves the Epigoni. Ten years later, it was time for the Epigoni to embark on their own expedition of Thebes in the face of the overwhelming challenge presented against them in the form of the much larger Thebans army.

    It was during this war that Diomedes made a name for himself as the mightiest warrior of all those participating, only at the age of fifteen no less. The Epigoni successfully vanquished the Thebans, and they took over the city, sacking it and becoming rich themselves. The Argive commanders then returned to their respective countries, with Diomedes marrying Aegialia and becoming the King of Argos in the process. At such a young age, he is already one of the most powerful rulers in all of Hellas (Greece). He brought wealth and stability to the country during the first five years of his reign, helped restored rightful order on the Calydonian Kingdom's throne, and became one of the suitors of Helen. Paris of Troy would then steal Helen away from the Achaeans (Greeks), and bounded by the oath of being Helen's suitor, Diomedes embarked with all the other suitors to Troy to retrieve Helen, thus starting the famous Trojan War.

    Diomedes' position among the Achaeans is far above others due to his combination of might and cunning. He was not only a powerful warrior but also a resourceful strategist for the Achaeans and he was a man many placed their trust in as a leader. During the Trojan War, he closely worked alongside Odysseus, for not only were they both Athena's favorites, but they were also similar in character to some respects. Diomedes had to do many of the dishonorable and 'dirty' work in order to stir the Achaeans, but it was a necessity in order to make fate move forward as predestined. Despite many of the dark acts Diomedes committed on the battlefield, it did not deter warriors to bear witness to the man's outstanding valor and heroism that shined far across the landscape. His 'aristeia' is blindingly superb, Diomedes accomplishing many feats no other human could have done, most notably wounding two Olympian gods in one single day while also soundly defeating Aeneas, the second most powerful Trojan warrior.

    Diomedes' onslaught continued, the Trojans in awe and fear of such bravery and ferocity the Greek hero had displayed in battle. Even they started to regard Diomedes as more fearsome than Achilles when the former is in a wild frenzy. The Greek hero would have slain Hector if it was not for Zeus' intervention, but even despite this setback, Diomedes' bravery in saving Nestor when all other present Greek hero fled in the face of Zeus' wrath made the former stand out among all others. His stealthy participation in gathering information on the Trojans with Odysseus also earned him praise as the bravest of all due to his participation in covert operations. From the beginning to end, Diomedes' efforts and presence proved instrumental in the fateful fall of Troy, stealing the Palladium and taking part of the Trojan Horse strategy to finally fell the city's walls. The brave hero stayed until the very end to see the sack of Troy and have all of his war efforts end in front of him at that very moment.

    After the end of the Trojan War, Diomedes returned home to Argos, having a safe 'nostoi' compared to the other Greek heroes who all had major setbacks due to Athena's scorn. However, not even he, the most favored of warriors, returned back in peace. The vengeful Aphrodite played a part in having his wife Aegialia take on many lovers, Diomedes becoming a outcasted scapegoat in the process. With Argos unavailable to him as his home, Diomedes and his companions fled to Italy, where he would live a peaceful life. He would meet his old enemy, Aeneas and the Trojans, and returned the Palladium to them. Having no desire to participate in any more fighting, he started building Italian cities and helping the people there as he settled down. At the end of his life, Athena appeared to him and wanted to make Diomedes an immortal god. The latter humbly accepted and ascended to godhood, finally ending his mortal life on this world as a noble hero built on the foundation of valor, cunning and humility.



    PERSONALITY

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    Compared to other typical heroes who basks in their fame and glory, Diomedes never displays a persona befitting of such a typical hero. He had never shown extreme pride and confidence, and it was a defining trait of his that he had never committed hubris during his time serving the Achaeans. However, because of this lack of hubris and overconfidence, he did not stand out as a glorified hero compared to his peers, and thus had his name overshadowed by them and their heroic feats of arms. Despite being the second most powerful and the second most intelligent warrior among the ranks of the Achaeans, the praises attributed to him pales in comparison to even other heroes that did not accomplish or display as much as what Diomedes did, and this is all because of his reserved character. Diomedes does not terribly mind this state of perception, citing that he did what he must do.

    Even as a king and a leader, Diomedes had always shown his humility and self-restraint. No insults had ever fazed him, for his valor stood above such trivial barks. He has displayed great respect to those who have displayed heroism to others, even if in his personal relationship with them he does not completely get along. He also shows his respects to his Greek gods, and even if he had the option to fight against them with a strong chance of victory in his favor, he will withdraw as a sign of humility towards them; he shall not fight such opponents unless he is ordered to. Perhaps he is what the ideal modern day professional would be like if he had lived in this era. Although he is not without his faults, and Diomedes had time and time again correctly criticized people, yet never gave them feedback on how to improve, despite being perfectly capable of helping them better themselves.

    Having grown up in warfare since the beginning of his life, Diomedes pays no heed to chivalry and honor on the battlefield. In a war, what matters most is victory, regardless of the means. He recognizes the significance of what it means to fight in a war for a particular country, for not only his life and his comrades' lives are at stake, but so are the lives of the people of his country as well as the lives of the people in the enemy's country. He will fight his hardest no matter the battle, all so in the end, he can achieve victory for his people and end this bloodshed as quickly as possible so the pain and trauma would not reverberate onwards for the rest of the war participants' lives. Because of this mindset, Diomedes had shown a great proficiency in executing ambushes, being deceitful to his own comrades to steer them to action, and even being treacherous to his foes by swearing false oaths to lower their guard and gaining information from them. Such tactics are no different from devious politicians that uses all sorts of methods to get what they want.

    Diomedes' noble character is far and widely known and respectfully accepted by many heroes and kings, and he is very popular not only in his homeland of Greece, but also to the people of the Italians and the Trojans, even despite viciously fighting in a war against them regarding the latter group. No matter his means, people of heroism can clearly understand why Diomedes did such things on the battlefield. While there are many heroes and warriors who can potentially be heroes, they are all but mere soldiers used for a greater cause, whether that cause is a country's vision or fate itself. Diomedes does not mind being an instrument to that cause, for he believes all acts of heroism ultimately ends in the achievement of a near-impossible or greatly significant cause that then advances the progress of humanity and the gods. No matter how great a human can be in their heroic actions, it is meaningless when fate and the gods reigns in their absolute superiority, dictating all course of matters. In short, Diomedes is a man of predestination.

    Behind that heroic and calm demeanor of his however, Diomedes is a man of pure rage. He always had that rage even back during his prior life. Even during his off-battle interactions, behind his humble actions and his resourceful words, fury resided within his heart at all times. Only when he enters battle is when that fury unleashes out in the open against his unfortunate enemies. Where did this fury come from? Was he born with this? Or did he obtain it sometime before the Trojan War? Even to this day, there have been some speculation that Diomedes brew his ingrown anger during the expedition of Thebes, known as the Epigoni War, the most prolific military expedition before the Trojan War. However, that cycle of epics has been lost to the concept of time, so no one would ever know why Diomedes has this inner rage, that is, except for Diomedes and Athena. However, Diomedes avoids explaining such things, and will only respond that "if the epics of the Epigoni War, the origin of my fury, have been lost to time, then surely that too, is fate's supreme desire."
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    Nice Diomedes but he's a bit OP, as the myths go he should 1 step underneath Achillies and Herc. He's a strong figure but you've piled it on a little thick there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    Nice Diomedes but he's a bit OP, as the myths go he should 1 step underneath Achillies and Herc. He's a strong figure but you've piled it on a little thick there.

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    Yeah, that many NPs, special snowflake Bravery and Mad Enhancement with no drawbacks is a bit much. Even if it is kind of justified with his last NP.

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    Nothing tops Seika's Caster Diomedes. That was the pinnacle of ingenuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Rush View Post
    Nothing tops Seika's Caster Diomedes. That was the pinnacle of ingenuity.
    That was really good, yeah. Definitely the most innovative take on him I've ever seen...

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    'Why are you Spartan women the only ones who can rule men?'

    'Because we are also the only ones who give birth to men.'



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    Class: Lancer
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    Region: Sparta

    Height/Weight: 171cm/60kg
    Likes: Muscular Men Who Know Respect
    Dislikes: Meatheads, Spineless Women
    Talent: High-Specs Advice
    Natural Enemy: Xerxes I
    Attribute: Man
    Traits: Humanoid, Female, Servant
    Armament: Spear, Shield

    Parameters:

    STR: C+
    END: D
    AGI: B
    MGI: D
    LCK: B
    NP: B

    Class Skills:

    Magic Resistance: C
    Grants protection against magical effects. Differing from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. If it's simple magecraft, she can nullify it.

    Personal Skills:

    Advice of the Strategist: B
    A skill given to military-affiliated Servants. By grasping and analyzing the situation, correct advice can be given to one's allies. The higher the rank, the better the probability of the advice given being correct. Despite being the most legendary Queen of Sparta she never ruled herself, instead she instead supported the other sovereigns, her father, her husband, various regents and then her son. At Rank B, the advice will always be correct unless unforeseen circumstances were to arise. A natural talent or direct skill is needed to counter the advice conjured by the user of this Skill.

    Charisma: D+
    A composite Skill consisting of a person's charm as well as the natural talent to command or unify an army or country. Increases the ability of allies during group battles.
    The famous depiction of one of the few women able to control the hearts of men, she is a natural leader who few could object, when dominating the minds of men, this skill increases in effectiveness.

    Human Observation: A
    A technique to observe and understand people. At this level, it is not simply observing but the capacity to hypothesise about one's livelihoods and preferences, and even the lives of people whose names are unknown. In the case of Gorgo, it is based not on memory but instead a natural gift of insight combined with year of experience. Even as a child she was able to deduce which politicians would attempt to betray her father even after only examining them for a few moments.

    Noble Phantasm


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    Type: Anti-Unit (Self)
    Rank: B
    Range: 1~5
    Maximum Targets: 1

    The Noble Phantasm of Lancer. It is the manifestation of her epithets as ‘Mother of Real Men’, ‘Mistress of Armies’ and the like. She uses the crystalisation of this to use herself as a catalyst to summon phantoms in the form of battle-hardened warriors, the greatest thousands of Sparta. It is an ability similar the King of Conquerors's Ionioi Hetairoi Noble Phantasm. However the overall range is far smaller due to never treading foot on the battlefield herself and she contains them all within her Spirit Graph, causing her mana levels to overload and creating a massive golden aura formed by the semi-formed soldiers leaking out of her body.

    In this state as a ‘Conglomerate Organism’, her physical and magical power is multiplied many fold, elevating her from a mediocre-at-best combat servant to a five star powerhouse, as long as the master can handle the mana cost.

    “THIS! IS SPARTA!”


    Lore

    Gorgo; Queen of Sparta, was the only child of Cleomenes I and wife of Leonidas I. She was one of the very few women named in her era and notable for being daughter of a king of Sparta, wife of another and mother of a third.

    Even as a child she showed signs of practical intellect, advising her father and famously telling him not to trust a pair of foreign diplomats trying to induce Sparta to support an Ionian revolt against Persia before she was even a teenager.

    "Father, you had better have this man go away, or the stranger will corrupt you".

    Being the King’s only heir, she married Leonidas who became king. According to Herodotus, then in exile at the Persian court, sent a warning to Sparta about Xerxes's pending invasion. In order to prevent the message from being intercepted by the Persians or their vassal states, the message was written on a wooden tablet and then covered with wax. Before the Battle of Thermopylae, knowing that her husband's death in battle was inevitable, she asked him what to do. Leonidas replied "marry a good man who will treat you well, bear him children, and live a good life".

    Her son was a minor at his father’s death so guided him through several regencies until he became co-king with another man and she passed away.


    Character

    Famously a strong and intelligent woman. Once, when she was visiting Athens, a woman asked her why it seemed only Spartan women could control their men. She answered, "Because only Spartan women give birth to men". That says a lot about her preferred kind of man and the level of respect they had for her. A woman strong of mind and body, she’s bustling with pride. Sparta was the strongest nation, any master who summons her must be the strongest And above all! Her husband!! Is the strongest!!!

    "Asking the kind of man I like? That's brave given who my husband is, maybe one day when you're older you can join us kiddo <3"

    Despite her intellect, she does like to indulge in activities her husband would support and prefers to crush her problems with overwhelming force, naturally incapable of holding back she always gives 100% of her effort all the time! If her master isn’t up to snuff, she’ll simply have to train them up because there’s no way she’ll let them get in the way of her wish, punching Xerxes I in the face. Truly an unstoppable force wherever she goes.

    However… she never faced real opposition in life she she has no idea how to properly handle defeat rather than ‘Try harder next time’, her husband’s thinking having rubbed off on her. However she’ll always rise above and conquer anything, except ghosts, they’re scary.


    Bond 10 CE

    300

    What is a man, a miserable pile of secrets?

    Those who fight knowing they’re about to die and fight all that harder? That is a man.

    One who is smart enough to think their way out of a problem without even having to raise arms? That is a man.

    A boy king who listens to the advice of others to make the most educated choice? That is a man.

    An non-academic fool who acknowledges their failings and resolves to better themselves? That is a man.

    A muscle bound warrior gentle to the touch and not intimidated by women? That is a man.

    Spartan women can rule men because we birth real men.


    Creator Notes:


    Not Rider Diomedes, Assassin Uther or another remake of an older sheet but infact a sheet I half-made a few months ago and forgot about till now. NP is kinda bland admittedly and I didn't like resorting to the army-summon so I put a spin on it. Better ideas will be welcomed if you have any critique.

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    Cool sheet, I never knew Gorgo was Leonida's wife, and this sheet just makes me want to ship it. From the look of it seems fairly balanced, nothing too out there. Her NP looks like another powerup NP like Saint War Order and Bloodbath Crown tho I think it does fit her and the mechanics behind it seems very interesting. Overall good work on making me want to see another Servant's wife as a Servant after Kriemhild, Guinevere and a few others.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    Nice Diomedes but he's a bit OP, as the myths go he should 1 step underneath Achillies and Herc. He's a strong figure but you've piled it on a little thick there.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I also really need to remake my version now
    All famous heroes are OP in some way or form, and I did my best to slim down Diomedes' feats since he's just a Servant made more powerful as a Berserker. But you should've mention in your post what part of the profile should be trimmed down.

    Also, the 4th NP was a last minute addition since someone suggested to me to do a Jojo Stand between Diomedes and Athena due to their intrinsic connection. The original profile was just Diomedes himself, and everything else you see in the profile. A versatile warrior who's like a jack-of-all-trades, but never the best in one area (compared to his fellow contemporaries of his time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Rush View Post
    Nothing tops Seika's Caster Diomedes. That was the pinnacle of ingenuity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    In one of the greatest battles fought in the Trojan War, he used his skill with illusion to make himself seem like the most terrifying opponent that the Trojans could have to face. He grew to a great height, divine fire shone from his armour, and Athene herself seemed to stand at his side. All the Trojans were thus put to flight, not daring to face such an apparition, the embodiment of a hero at war.
    You would not believe how smug I was when I came across this passage earlier this year:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tzetzes, Allegories of the Iliad 5.6-13
    Ὁ Διομήδης θέλων δὲ τότε γνωσθῆναι πᾶσι,
    κάτοπτρον κατεσκεύασεν ἀσπίδι καὶ τῷ λοφῳ
    πυρὸς ἐκπεμπον δόκησιν ἀκτῖσι ταῖς ἡλίου,
    οἷον ἐνῆν καὶ Ἀχιλεῖ φόβητρον πολεμίοις·
    οὐ καυστικὸν δὲ κάτοπτρον οἷον τὸ Ἀρχιμήδους,
    ᾧπερ ὁ γέρων ἔφελεξεν ὁλκάδας τοῦ Μαρκέλλου
    ἐκ τῆς ἀντανακλάεσεως ἡλίου τῶν ἀκτίνων,
    ἀλλ' ἀφλεγὲς εἰς πτόησιν ταγμάτων ἐναντίων.
    Diomedes, wanting to be known to everyone,
    had a mirror made for his shield and for his helmet,
    which created an illusion of fire using the rays of the Sun,
    so striking as much fear into the enemy as Akhilleus himself.
    The mirror did not scorch like that of Arkhimedes,
    with which the old man burnt Marcellus' ships
    by reflecting the Sun's rays,
    but, flameless, it terrified the enemy's ranks.
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    That is unspeakably cool.

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    It's a fascinating sort of work, the Allegories. "No, this passage about Athene lighting divine flames on his armour doesn't have anything to do with pagan gods: it's all a metaphor. In fact, there are no gods whatsoever in the Iliad, and actually all sixteen thousand lines are solely metaphor. Please don't burn me for heresy."
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    Ioannes Tzetzes was a true man of his time. I cannot imagine the mental effort it took to create something like the Allegories (which by the way, have the best full title). One of these days I'll get my hands on a translation.

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    There was a good one out recently, at a decent price. (Their facing Greek text is a tad lazy, but they were understandably focused on the translation). Let me find it ...

    Here.
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    That seems interesting! Is there any translation of the Allegories that is legally available for free, even if it's an old one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    There was a good one out recently, at a decent price. (Their facing Greek text is a tad lazy, but they were understandably focused on the translation). Let me find it ...

    Here.
    Will you be updating the servant list soon? Or do you need us to make a list of all the Servants since last update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick146 View Post
    Will you be updating the servant list soon? Or do you need us to make a list of all the Servants since last update?
    Hasn't even been that long since the last update I don't think. I'd wait until at least 450.

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