We still don't know what the minus modifier does right?
We still don't know what the minus modifier does right?
NASUVERSE STAMPEDE!!!
One would presume it's a situational penalty rather than a situational bonus.
I wanted to ask this for a while... who is HYPNOS?
Theseus, Hero of Athens
Saber
Alignment: Neutral Good.
Natural Enemy: monsters.
Image Color: blue and white.
Class and Personal Skills:
STR: B++ MGI: C+ END: B++ LCK: B AGI: B++ NP: A
Magic Resistance: B
It grants protection against magical effects. At this level, it cancels spells with a chant below three verses. It’s important to note that the term "verse" seen below refers to a set of three lines. Thus, a chant of three verses is equivalent to a Nine-Line incantation. Even if targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for him to be affected.
Riding: A
It’s the expertise to ride animals and vehicles. At this level, all creatures but those of Phantasmal Beast and Divine Beast-rank can be used as mounts. This rank is high enough to have aptitude for the Rider Class.
Theseus acquires this skill naturally by being the son of Poseidon, who was regarded as a “god tamer of horses” (Poseidon Hippios), as horses played a part in the mythology and worship of this god: according to one tradition, his mother Rhea pretended to have given birth to a young horse in order to fool his infanticide father Cronus and spare the young Poseidon; in Argolis bridled horses were thrown into the well Deine as a sacrifice to him, and horse and chariot races were held in honour of the god in Corinthian isthmus.
Not only was he believed to have taught men the art of managing horses by the bridle, and to have been the originator and protector of horse races, but sometimes he was regarded as the creator of the first horse: when Poseidon and Athena disputed as to which of them should give the name to the capital of Attica, the gods decided that it should receive its name from him who should bestow upon man the most useful gift. Poseidon then created the horse, and Athena called forth the olive tree, for which the honour was conferred upon her – according to others, however, Poseidon did not create the horse in Attica, but in Thessaly, where he also gave the famous horses to Peleus.
In consequence of his connection with the horse, he was regarded as the friend of charioteers, and sometimes he fathered them and/or took the shape of one: the most famous winged horse Pegasus was born from him and the Gorgon, and with Demeter he fathered the magic horse Arion, when they both metamorphosed into a horses.
Bravery: A
The ability to negate mental interference such as pressure, confusion and fascination. It grants the bonus effect of increasing melee damage.
A skill naturally possessed by those heroes that faced seemingly insurmountable obstacles and dangerous feats beyond human capacity, fighting strong giants, monstruous creatures and overpowering forces.
As an example, when Theseus was only seven-years old, Heracles came by Troezen as a guest to king Pittheus’s court (Theseus’s caretaker at the time); the hero put down the skin of the Nemean Lion nearby himself, and all the kids in the palace ran away from him in fear, believing a true, alive lion had enetered the room.
Only the young Theseus was brave enough to snatch a weapon from one of the servants and assaulted the “monster”.
Divinity: B
Theseus was a demigod, son of Poseidon (king of the sea, but also fresh waters and earthquakes) and Aethra, and heir of king Aegeus.
As such, this lineage of his grants him a strong offensive and defensive bonus when facing opponents with “sea” as an attribute, and boost his physical prowess when fighting near by bodies of water.
It’s interesting to note that, while Poseidon lost the rule of Athens to the goddess Athena the first time, with this beloved son of his succeding to Aegeus, you could say he got his little “revenge”.
Eye of the Mind (False): A
It’s an innate talent to sense and avoid danger based on intuition, that can also be called the Sixth Sense or prescience, gained through many ordeals and adventures. A natural talent to avoid danger based on the “perception and resolution of the current situation”.
At this level, penalties caused by visual obstructions are rendered virtually null. In Theseus’ case, it grants superior acuity in knowing how to deal with opposing opponents, even if they are monsters: what are they weakest points and how to exploit them, understanding how their bodies work, how they can possibly move and react to attacks and defense.
Noble Phantasms:
Pammachion Geranos
Martial Dance of the Labyrinth
Rank: B
Type: Anti-Unit
In Greek mythology, it was said that the hero Theseus invented a martial art called Pankration, a martial art that combined techniques of both boxing and wrestling – as well as additional elements, such as the use of strikes with the lower extremities – to create a broad fighting sport not too much dissimilar from today's mixed martial arts competitions. The term comes from the Greek παγκράτιον, which literally means "all powers" ( πᾶν (pan-) meaning "all" and κράτος (kratos) meaning "strength” or “power").
This fighting style was the result of using superior athletic and martial prowess in defeating various strong opponents in his many fights. According to the tradition, Theseus used this extraordinary skill of his in fighting to defeat the dreaded Minotaur in the Labyrinth, eventually strangling him with his bare hands with a choke (ina slightly different version, after he overpowered the Minotaur he finished the monster with a sword he hid in his clothes when he entered the labyrinth); according to a similar tradition, Heracles too was said to have employed Pankration in submitting many beasts, most famously the Nemean Lion, whose fur couldn’t be harmed by any weapon and thus was defeat when the hero choked hjim to death).
In this context, it should be noted that Pankration was also referred to as Pammachon or Pammachion (πάμμαχον or παμμάχιον), meaning "total combat", from πᾶν-, pān-, "all-" or "total", and μάχη, machē, "combat". The term pammachon was older, and would later become used less than the term pankration.
Spoiler:
The Geranos was a ritual dance performed by Theseus after his successful slaying of the Minotaur. After defeating the monster, the hero sailed from Crete to return to Athens. Along the way back, he stopped in the island of Delos to pay his due tribute. This island was considered the birthplace of the god Apollo, and as such it constituted one of the principal holy sanctuary of the god. In fact, before leaving for his adventure in Crete, Theseus promised sacrificial offerings to Apollo if he would be coming back victorious. Also, Theseus dedicated a statue to Aphrodite, which Ariadne had given to him.
This “Crane Dance” was performed with blows, and with various turnings and windings, in a serpentine motion; the intricate movements of the dance, with all of its involutions and evolutions, were said to represent the windings of the Cretean Labyrinth in which the bovine creature was confined. It was also performed by the fourteen survivors rescued by Theseus, both boys and girls together, and held around an altar called Keraton, which was built entirely of horns.
The custom of performing this dance lasted long, and was still customary in Delos as late as the time of Plutarch (46 – 120 AD). The Geranos is also being compared to the Tsakonikos Dance (alternatively linked to the slaying by Apollo of the Python at Delphi – and thus till related to the god –) the hyporchema (a lively kind of mimic dance performed around an altar, which accompanied the songs used in the worship of Apollo), and also the Siganos (a Cretean Dance) and Ageranos Dance (performed in Naxos).
A different, minor interpretation of the legend gives us an interesting version of the relationship between Theseus and Ariadne: according to this, Theseus and his companions danced the Crane, which consists of labyrinthe evolutions, trod with measured steps to the accompaniment of harps. Theseus introduced this dance from Knossos (Crete); Daedalus had built Ariadne a dancing-floor there, marked with a maze pattern in white marble relief, copied from the Egyptian Labyrinth. When Theseus and his companions performed the Crane at Knossos, this was the first occasion on which men and women danced together. This interpretation is supposed to subtitute the existence of a true “labyrinth” (in this case identified with the Palace of Knossos) and the famous thread of Ariadne (alternatively, the Minotaur’s labyrinth and the dancing floor are supposed to be strictly related, and the dancing of Ariadne is supposed to have revealed the inner secrets of the maze to Theseus, as opposed as using a clue).
The image of a “dancing Ariadne” has been evoked by Homer, as it constitues one of the decorations depicted on Achilles’ shield; also, on a tablet found in Knossos and written in Linear B appears a dedication to “da-pu-ri-to-jo po-ti-ni-ja " (Daburinthoio Potniai), “"to the Mistress of the Labyrinth".
Once performed, it increases all of Theseus’ parameters by one rank (in a way, as the representation of his most famous feat, it could be said to activate the full power of the fame boost… considering also that his other two rather plain-looking Noble Phantasms are hardly telling of his identity).
Δακτύλιος ΧρύσεοςDaktylios Khryseos
Favor from the Sea
Rank: A+
Type: Anti-Unit
Once, king Minos of Crete had waged war with the Athenians and was successful. He then demanded that, at seven-year intervals, the seven strongest Athenian boys and the seven most beautiful Athenian maidens were to be sent to Crete as sacrifical victims to be devoured by the Minotaur. In order to fulfill his promise to slay the half-bovine monster, Theseus set off among the seven youths.
That year, Minos himself appeared to collect the tribute. During the voyage, the Cretean king tried to sexually abuse one of the girls, Periboea, but she was defended by Theseus; angrily he challenged the king, and boasted his parentage as the son of Poseidon. King Minos, who was himself a demigod son of Zeus, decided to put the prince’s claim to test: he prayed to his father to send a lightning [for a lightning to strike?] as proof of his lineage, and then threw a golden ring into the ocean as a challenge: if the young brave would indeed be who he claimed he was, the god of the sea would sponsor him, so he challenged Theseus to dive in and retrieve the item.
The Athenian prince dived into the water, and was received by his father in the god’s underwater palace. Here Poseidon gave him the ring, with in addition a jewelled crown (that was later on given to Ariadne as a token and afterwards placed among the stars). Theseus the returned to the surface and on board holding the ring and the crown.
This plain-looking golden ring is indeed Theseus’ most precious Noble Phantasm, his true ace in the hole. While the ring is nothing particularly majestic in itself, it symbolizes and holds the divine favor of the sea-god in the form of three wishes.
However, later on these wishes proved to be a source of grief for Theseus. Phaedra, Theseus’s second wife, happened to fall in love with the hero’s son from the previous marriage, Hippolytus (who scorned Aphrodite to become a devotee of Artemis, so Aphrodite made Phaedra fall in love with him as punishment). Hippolytus rejected his stepmother’s advances out of chastity.
To ensure that she would die with dignity, Phaedra wrote to Theseus claiming that Hippolytus had raped her before hanging herself. Theseus believed her and used one of the three wishes he had received from Poseidon against his son. The curse caused Hippolytus’ horses to be frightened by a monstrous bull emerging from the sea, and drag their rider to his death. Artemis would later tell Theseus the truth, promising to avenge her loyal follower on another follower of Aphrodite.
Sword of State
Token of Promised Return
Rank: B+
Type: Anti-Unit
"O futile humans! Why does your folly teach skills innumerable, and search out manifold inventions still? But there is one knowledge you do not gain and have never sought it: to implant a right mind where no wisdom dwells."
(Theseus. Euripides, Hippolytus 919)
After Theseus had been conceived, his putative father, king Aegeus of Athens, decided to return to his city. Before leaving, however, he buried a pair of sandals and a sword under a huge rock and told Aethra if she gave birth to a male child, she should rear him without telling who his father was; he then hid under a huge boulder a pair of sandals and a sword, saying that when his son would have grown up and become strong enough to move away the boulder he would retrieve the items; aat that time she would reveal to him his lineage anf send him to Athens. Aethra did as instructed, and when Theseus turned sixteen, she showed him the rock and he, pushing it away, took the sandals and the sword, and left for Athens.
In the meanwhile, Aegeus was joined by Medea, who had left Corinth after slaughtering the children she had born, and had taken Aegeus as her new consort.
After various adventures, vanquishing a monstrous boar and bandits, he finally arrived in Athens; he however didn’t reaveal his identity immediately.
Aegeus gave him hospitality but was suspicious of the young, powerful stranger's intentions. Aegeus's wife Medea recognized Theseus immediately as Aegeus' son and worried that Theseus would be chosen as heir to Aegeus' kingdom instead of her son Medus. She tried to arrange to have Theseus killed by asking him to capture the fire-breathing Marathonian Bull; when Theseus returned victorious to Athens, where he sacrificed the Bull, Medea tried to poison him. When Theseus prepared himself for the sacrifice he unsheathed the sword, allowing Aegeus to finally recognize him, and knocked the poisoned wine cup from Theseus's hand. Thus father and son were reunited, and Medea, it was said, was forced into exile.
It is a rather plain-looking sword, so much that, even though masterfully crafted, it doesn’t leave a striking impression and at first glance it can almost not be recognized as a Noble Phantasm.
That’s because its power is not to grant the power of a royal heir, but to represent the authority of the king as the bringer of justice.
As such, it’s not so much as a powerful tool to be used in battle, but a cerimonial sword, a symbol of authority meant to represent the responsibility and appointment of the ruler in guiding his subjects, even through pure force. As such, its nature is more akin to the likes of Merodach, Gram or Caliburn.
Differently from most Noble Phantasms, which were powerful weapons in their own times elevated to the rank of magnificient trump cards when summoned by their respective owners as Servants, this otherwise slightly-more-than-normal sword became powerful through Theseus’ use of it; although the sword is of Aegeus, through its unique employement by the young hero it became a symbol of Theseus’ justice, “to repay every evil deed in a equal way”.
Through his life, Theseus brought justice to men, monsters and demigods alike, putting to their just rewards other misbehaving sons of Poseidon.
Since a “Sword of the State” symbolizes the power of both ideally defending and punishing, keeping in check the subjects, the power of this Noble Phantasm grows along the number of enemies (this being said, against truly, completely overpowering forces it’s not enough to make a difference).
Theseus was a founder-hero who battled and overcame foes identified with an archaic religious and social order (examples can be stopping the infamous human sacrifices to the Minotaur imposed by the rule of king Minos, or deposing king Cercyon and his brutal fighting ritual). As Heracles was the Dorian hero, Theseus was the Athenian founding hero, considered by them as their own great reformer: his name comes from the same root as θεσμός ("thesmos"), Greek for "institution". He was responsible for the Synoikismos ("dwelling together"), the political unification of Attica under Athens, represented emblematically in his journey of labours, subduing highly localized ogres and monstrous beasts.
Before Theseus’ time Attica had been broken up into a number of petty independent states or townships (twelve is the number generally stated) acknowledging no head, and connected only by a federal union. Theseus, partly through persuasion, partly by force, abolished the separate council chambers and governments, did away with all separate political jurisdiction, and erected Athens into the capital of a single commonwealth; The festival which was called Athenaea was now reinstituted and termed the Panathenaea.
Theseus won the approval and admiration of the Athenian citizens who saw in him a wise and far-sighted ruler as well as a brave and fearless warrior. Agriculture and commerce flourished and Athens became a prosperous and important maritime port, as Theseus rightfully believed that the sea would give power to Athens.
As Rider
Well, it was a bit difficult to find a class for Theseus. I eventually went for the Saber class (also because I wanted to approach/take up a Saber this time). Anyway... seven Word doc pages! It's a record!
It’s totally canon, guys. Theseus is a user of the Nanto Suichō Ken.
Thanks to Seika for the consultation and the idea of Theseus as a Rider (check it out, it’s well-made).
Update: [Ver. 2.0]
Last edited by Sherrinford; March 6th, 2015 at 06:03 PM.
That's definitely an extremely well done profile; the only "errors" I notice are mispelling of some words, and calling Hippolytus "her" in the line about chastity. XP
Originally Posted by Seika
F/GO SUPPORT
Thanks!
I corrected Typo about Hippolytus.
Now, while "researching" the Labyrinth, I found something really interesting... let's see if I can develop it into a profile.
As a bonus, a rare image discovered in Delos, dated 3000 BC, depicting Theseus.
Lolwhat
Another local flavor hero :3
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Si Pitung
"Madikipe lo!"
Image (c) ktp08 @ Deviantart/
The Bull of Marunda, and one of the more notorious folk hero of Jakarta.
Pitung was born under the name Salihoen, in what is now Jakarta. He grew up as a devoted and pious Muslim, but all of that changed one fateful day. In that day, he was ordered by his father to sell a herd of goats at the livestock market. In the way home, he was coerced by a band of ruffians to hand over the proceeds, under the pretense that Pitung's father haven't paid taxes to the government. Pitung handed the proceeds over, but that enraged his fether, chastising Pitung for being too gullible. His father then ordered him to reclaim the money at all cost, and Pitung never turned back since...
Possible Class: Assassin, Saber (Stats & Skills given as Assassin)
Master: ???
Parameters:
* Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
* Noble Phantasm: B
* Strength: C+
* Endurance: D
* Agility: B+
* Mana: C
* Luck: C
Class Skills:
* Presence Concealment C
(Assassin-specific class skill)
This Skill represents the capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant. It is a common skill to the Assassin class. At this rank, Pitung can conceal his presence as a Heroic Spirit perfectly, and Divination spells of at least C rank is needed to reveal his traits as a heroic spirit.
Personal skills:
* Nature of Rebellious Spirit B
This Skill represents the temperament to never remain at one location and never embrace a lord. A wandering star that does not have the capacity to be king nor is capable of finding his own king. It also negates the effects of Charisma with the same rank.
* Shapeshifting C
This Skill refers to both borrowing bodies and appearance change. A method used by the millenary spirits of foxes and badgers of China that are put on par with Tamamo-no-Mae. At this rank, Pitung can conceal himself into anyone with his general build, including his face; He can't mask his spiritual presence, however. Converting into another guise takes at least half an hour of preparation.
* Escape Artist B
This Skill represents the ability to escape a confinement; It can also be used to break someone out of such a predicament. At this rank, Pitung can escape or break into prisons classified as maximum-security. To do that however, he would need appropriate tools.
* Disengage C
This Skill represents the ability to break away from combat. At this rank, Pitung receives a bonus effect of returning battle conditions to what they were at the beginning of the match.
Noble Phantasms:
* Jimat Si Pitung [I Do Just Fine Without]
Support
Target: self
Rank: C
The crystallization of the fantastic stories around Pitung, this amulet grants Pitung a form of limited invulnerability. He cannot be harmed with mundane magic and weapons (even high-level Conceptual Weapons), and Noble Phantasm attacks lose an equivalent of two ranks' power. In addition to this, he gets an improvement to his strength and agility as long as he retains this phantasm. This phantasm is always active, making prana consumption from the Master significantly increase.
Interestingly, Pitung shows distaste on relying on this phantasm. He prefers to plan his moves meticulously, not taking this phantasm (and to a lesser degree, his status as a Heroic Spirit) into account. If asked about it, he said that it doesn't suit him.
Last edited by Gunbazca; July 2nd, 2013 at 01:18 AM.
"MONGLERS!" - Gilgamesh, last words
Oh wow
Nice and original concept.
@Nerdguy: there's a few other Indonesian heroes in this thread :3
@JxK: It could be destroyed, but Pitung generally keeps it hidden.
"MONGLERS!" - Gilgamesh, last words
@Gunbazca I know, it's your choice of hero (out of the more epic ones) that amazed me.
Last edited by Nerdguy; July 2nd, 2013 at 11:00 AM.
I wish i can say that it's for Jakarta's 486th anniversary lol
"MONGLERS!" - Gilgamesh, last words
You are young and weak.
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Well, we're not a very old civilization... The oldest written account of Indonesian origin is probably 'only' around 1700 years old.
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