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    You missed CCC.
    CCC gave us our most up to date look.
    An incarnated demon is supposed to said to be equal to an Elder God in Lovecraft stuff.
    Dawn exorcised one of those. So basically Dawn exorcised Cthulu. He will do it two more times in his life.
    And they're the original users of Reality Marbles or rather the whole "common sense of demons," thing is attributed to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    Keeping in mind Kanata's cameo in Garden of Oblivion, I like to think that it is part of the KnKverse, at least. Then again I remember someone saying that the cameo was cut out from the Drama CD version, so lol.
    That was ossan I think.
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    I didn't know it was in-game as well as in EXTRA material.

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    And yush, I forgot RMs.

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    That felt more like Nasu screwing around and inserting random names rather than a real cameo.

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    arai didn't you have a theory that Bathory's lungs are a different dimension because of how she's a demon-ish thing because of innocent monster?

    nvm it legitly says that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deaddrunk View Post
    That felt more like Nasu screwing around and inserting random names rather than a real cameo.
    I recall there being mention of a 14 year-old in a wedding dress though. That's somewhat specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    arai didn't you have a theory that Bathory's lungs are a different dimension because of how she's a demon-ish thing because of innocent monster?
    I stay clear of the demon stuff usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    I recall there being mention of a 14 year-old in a wedding dress though. That's somewhat specific.
    Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    I recall there being mention of a 14 year-old in a wedding dress though. That's somewhat specific.
    Wait. What. Which?
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    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


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    Wait. What. Which?
    —There, alone inside the square-shaped cage

    "Dead."

    The body of girl, with an appearance of approximately fourteen years old rested upon a modest bed.

    She was wearing a wedding dress dazzling with pure white.

    She seems to have been closing her eyes for a while.

    But now, at last, she was able to fall in slumber, as if dying peacefully.
    O right, I should add Kuramitsu to the DDD-KnK connections too.

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    八番目のロストトラック。コミックと小説で綴る、ひと夏の小話をお楽しみくださいませ。

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    さて。
    ここから未来福音のネタバレというか、小話を一つ。
    DDDの読者さん的には「ん?」と思うギミックがありましたが、DDDと空の境界はまったく繋がっておりま せん。
    あくまで、DDDでいうところの「相手を自分の脳に閉じこめる」という悪魔憑きを、空の境界のルールに落と し込むとどうなるか……という比較なのでした。
    相手を取り込むって、つまりこういうコトだよね、という。


    そして来週、いよいよメルブラAA稼働!
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    It's just a gimmick to make DDD readers do a double-take, there's no connection at all between Kara no Kyoukai and DDD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    O right, I should add Kuramitsu to the DDD-KnK connections too.
    You shouldn't because:

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    D棟患者。「出口なき脳髄陥穽(クラインキューブクラインネス)」。
    男性。敗戦主義者。カナタに判定負け。カナタ曰く「女々しくも私の中に逃げ込んできたので倒せないけど逃げ られない」との事。自分の脳に相手を閉じ込める能力を持つ。本編未登場だが、アリカの白昼夢で戸馬と対戦し 敗れている。
    『空の境界 未来福音』でも同名の登場人物が存在するが、こちらは創作物から引用された偽名。

    It's just a fake name he took from a book.

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    Huh, thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    You missed CCC.
    CCC gave us our most up to date look.
    An incarnated demon is supposed to said to be equal to an Elder God in Lovecraft stuff.
    Dawn exorcised one of those. So basically Dawn exorcised Cthulu. He will do it two more times in his life.
    And they're the original users of Reality Marbles or rather the whole "common sense of demons," thing is attributed to them.

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    That was ossan I think.
    I was under the impression Lovecraftian Elder Gods were multiversal. Cthulhu is a Great Old One not an Elder God.





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    I don't know lovecraft but the runes are 邪神 and that's also what Caster's giant sea monster is called and that's supposed to basically be Cthulu right?
    And this:

    Quote Originally Posted by japanese wikipedia
    邪神の名前である「Cthulhu」は
    But yeah regardless of the fact I know nothing about Lovecraft. Dawn exorcised Cthulu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I don't know lovecraft but the runes are 邪神 and that's also what Caster's giant sea monster is called and that's supposed to basically be Cthulu right?
    And this:



    But yeah regardless of the fact I know nothing about Lovecraft. Dawn exorcised Cthulu.
    Isn't Jashin just a really general term, though?
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    Yeah it is but Nasu is making reference to Lovecrafts works. And Jyashin in Lovecrafts works in Japanese is Cthulu and his lot whatever they are or at least that's what wikipedia leads me to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Yeah it is but Nasu is making reference to Lovecrafts works. And Jyashin in Lovecrafts works in Japanese is Cthulu and his lot whatever they are or at least that's what wikipedia leads me to believe.
    Yeah, but, don't they call all the Mythos deities Zyasin?
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    Nasu and Gen only didnt directly call Caster's monster Cthulhu because they falsely assumed the Cthulhu mythis was copyrighted back then, anyways.

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    Can a Master do a live commanding to a Servant from a far? Without Command Spell.

    Because if they can't, this sort of came in mind:

    A Berserker's master must be close to direct Berserker's action -> Berserker is busy trashing around with the Master close -> Assassin offing the Master pretty easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Can a Master do a live commanding to a Servant from a far?

    Because if they can't, this sort of came in mind:

    A Berserker's master must be close to direct Berserker's action -> Berserker is busy trashing around with the Master close -> Assassin offing the Master pretty easily.
    They can use the Command seal to command their servant to come to their aid as fast as possible. This will make the servant teleport to their master's location.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedoctor View Post
    They can use the Command seal to command their servant to come to their aid as fast as possible. This will make the servant teleport to their master's location.
    Sorry, I meant without Command Spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Sorry, I meant without Command Spell.
    The master and Servant share a connection through the contract and the prana link between them. A servant is therefore capable of sensing when their master is in danger. However if no command seal is used to order them to the master's location than the servant will have to rely on their own speed to get there. This "danger" sense however does not extend to people their master associate with as seen in Fate/Zero when Saber didn't know that Irisviel was under attack.





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