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    Kind dumb of me to ask without showing a link, here
    Also, the book cover from that inspired giant saber


    here is a list of my servant sheets(new and improved format for my servant sheets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    Kind dumb of me to ask without showing a link, here
    Also, the book cover from that inspired giant saber
    That was my mistake. I'd totally forgotten about Cecil so all I remembered about Eddel's brother was the couple lines you included in her own sheet.

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    Not a sheet, but more of a conceptual idea for a version of Illya who was raised by Kiritsugu and went down a similar path, and a (kinda) overpowered Noble Phantasm:

    Timeless Lily: Sequence Azure [Support] (EX): The culmination of Caster [Illya] ’s forays and studies into the very basics of her Magic Crest and Time Alteration, manifesting as the Crest being engraved onto her chest. While operating on principles which would usually be considered borderline True Magic, if not a limited application of the Fifth, Timeless Lily is not a true representation of the Fifth Magic. Despite that, Timeless Lily is a Noble Phantasm which can directly alter time itself, and not just for its user.

    When Timeless Lily is activated, Caster will become able to alter the flow of all time in a specified area. She is unable to go ‘back’ and mix and match from the time stream, which technically makes it an incomplete form of the Fifth Magic, but she can ‘pause’ and ‘accelerate’ time in any given area, creating either Bounded Fields of paused time or slowing down time around her by expanding Kiritsugu Emiya's Time Alter to include her surroundings, so long as she has enough mana to properly power the Fields. Because of the sheer complexity of the Bounded Fields, along with Caster's ability to cast them within herself, they are nigh impossible to remove, unless their mana source is removed, or Caster manually removes them.

    The primary downside to Timeless Lily is its immense cost in mana. Even with an immensely powerful Master or external source of mana, constantly using Timeless Lily to cast Bounded Fields is incredibly costly. Casting enough Bounded Fields can cause the Master to instantly die of mana deprivation, and cause the maintained Bounded Fields to explode.

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    Just an idea. It was originally going to be more OP, but Time Alteration on a Bounded Field level is already pretty powerful.

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    Time manipulation is a thing now, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MehKitteh View Post
    Time manipulation is a thing now, huh?
    It's been a thing since 2006, yes.


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    Been following this thread for a while, decided to finally make an account and post some of my ideas.

    Rider

    Servant Rider
    Cinderella

    Alignment: Lawful Good
    Origin: Fairy Tales



    Stats
    Strength: E
    Endurance: D
    Agility: C
    Mana: B
    Luck: A+
    Noble Phantasm: A+

    Class Skills
    ​Riding C++:
    As a member of nobility, she is able to flawlessly ride animals and vehicles that have received proper training and adjustment.
    Because she is beloved by Phantasmal Species, she is able to ride them not through her own skill, but through their willingness to cooperate.
    Magic Resistance B-:
    Cancel spells with a chant below three verses. Even if targeted by High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for them to be affected.
    While Rider possesses no magic resistance of her own, the planet and its extensions constantly and actively defend her.

    Personal Skills
    Princess of Loveliness A:
    Skill representing one's charismatic nature in regards not to leadership, but the ability to charm the people around oneself.
    Rider embodies the ideal of "what a princess should be". She attracts the affections of knightly-types just by existing.
    Protection of the Elementals B:
    A skill which denotes that one is beloved by Phantasmal Species.
    Whether a fairy godmother, a magical fish, or simply her animal friends, Rider is always aided by the spirits of the earth. Animals, Elementals and Phantasmal Species will naturally aid her however they can unless they are contracted by an opponent. This does not apply to “enemies of mankind”- that is, creatures which would be targeted by Alaya.
    Right to Triumph B:
    The ability to overcome all obstacles in order to reach a “good end”. It is similar to "Miracle" or "Pioneer of the Stars", but its applications and basis are different. Can be considered a passive type of fate manipulation.
    Boosted by her popularity. While Rider possesses no abilities that would grant her this skill, everyone knows that “Cinderella lives happily ever after”. It is no longer a “right” but a “fact of life”. Rider’s Luck is considered Rank Up when in disadvantageous situations. It increases further when an action would otherwise result in her death.


    Noble Phantasm
    Stroke of Midnight: Invocation of a Fairy's Blessing
    Anti-Unit, A+
    Rider calls upon the power of the fairies, using their magical fairy language to change the nature of any object she chooses. Transformed objects can combat even the strongest of Noble Phantasms, and transformed creatures rival Phantasmal Beasts.
    As the power of the creatures which create heroes, the possibilities are endless. There are only three limits to this ability:
    1) The greater the change, the more time and energy is required to transform. Turning a stick into a legendary sword is possible, but would require a great amount of time and energy.
    2) So long as the target has not been completely destroyed, it will return to its original shape each night at midnight.
    3) Objects cannot be transformed if Rider is separated from the Earth, be it through a Reality Marble or otherwise.
    As Rider need only expend energy to summon the fairies (which then use their own energy to transform objects) it is incredibly cost effective. Since she lacks any combat worth skills or abilities other than Riding she considers herself a third-rate Servant despite her power. A great sword is worthless in the hands of someone who can't use it. Her true potential can only be revealed when put in a supporting role.

    Rhodopis: The Shoe Can Fit Only One
    Anti-Unit, D
    The glass slipper. Everyone knows its nature.
    Upon activation, it will reveal the name and nature of its target. It is an absolute tool which allows nothing to be hidden. Of course, anyone who sees a glass slipper would immediately recognize its owner, making the benefits of this tool equal to the cost. A third-rate Phantasm for a third-rate Servant.

    Lore
    The heroine of the classic fairy tale, one of the oldest and most universally acknowledged individuals of all time. While the name "Cinderella" was an invention of the late 17th century, her story is thousands of years old. The woman persecuted by her stepmother, aided by a magical beast, who meets the prince and loses her shoe. In truth, she is just one of many individuals who fill this role. However, as few know the names "Cordelia" or "Ye Xian", and she is the only one named "Cinderella", she is the only Cinderella-figure capable of being summoned.

    She is a bit of an anomaly. Having only ever acted in self interest, she never performed a single heroic deed. She never saved a single person- not even herself, as she relied on the power of the fairies to rescue her from her tormentors. However, somehow she was still venerated reached the status of "Heroic Spirit". She openly acknowledges these failings.

    If she had a single wish for the Grail, it would be "to share with everyone the fortune she was blessed with".


    Personality
    Rider is generally jovial and care free. She acknowledges that she's part of a war but doesn't see the point in worrying with it. If she could have things her way each Servant would live normal lives peacefully with their master and forget about the whole ordeal. However, she says that if she's forced into combat than she will fight with all her power, however small that power may be.

    Her combat style is "support my allies". She is capable of providing entire armies with Noble Phantasms, or granting a combat-trained master the means to fight on par with a Servant. However, without a strong ally she falls short. When forced to fight herself, she creates a Phantasmal Beast with her Phantasm and relies on its strength instead of her own.


    Archer

    Servant Archer
    Meghanada
    (Indrajit)

    Alternative Class: Saber, Lancer, Rider, Caster, Assassin

    Alignment: Lawful Evil
    Origin: Indian Mythology (Ramayana)


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    Stats
    Strength: B
    Endurance: B
    Agility: A
    Mana: A
    Luck: C
    Noble Phantasm: EX

    Class Skills
    Magic Resistance A:
    Cancel spells of A-Rank or below, no matter what High-Thaumaturgy it is. In practice, the Servant is untouchable to modern magi, so it would not be an exaggeration to title the Servant a 'Magus Killer'.
    The child of a demon and a being from the Age of Gods, her rank in this skill is incredibly high.
    ​Independent Action B:
    It is possible for a Servant to stay in the world for two days without a Master. Grants the ability to resist command seals slightly.
    A skill granted due to her class. In life she was completely subservient to her father, even knowingly walking to her death under his orders. While her rank in this skill is high, she would never question her Master's orders so command seals are unnecessary in the first place. If her contract were to be broken, she would probably just whither away.

    Personal Skills
    Weapons Master B:
    A skill similar to Eye for Art. As a master of countless weapons and fighting styles, Archer will immediately recognize the True Name of any weapon or technique used against her. However, it will only apply to those of Hindu origin.
    God Slayer A:
    A special Skill provided for those who defeat Divine Spirits. Grants Rank Up when facing Divine Spirits and Servants with the Divinity skill.
    A demon child who gained fame for conquering Heaven, particularly for defeating Indra, the king of the gods. She was granted the title Indrajit, or "Conqueror of Indra".
    Clairvoyance C:
    Connotes superior visual perception and dynamic occipital capture, such as to supplement the long-range aiming of projectile weapons.
    At this rank, Archer is capable of keeping track of fast-moving object within a range of four kilometers.
    Illusionism B:
    The ability to create illusions, a magecraft for the use of beguilement. Refers to interference with the psyche, and the projection of illusions into reality.
    One of the few masters of Maya, a type of illusion magic. She is capable of creating lifelike illusions, changing her appearance, turning invisible, etc. Her skill in this form of magecraft alone is enough to qualify her for the Caster class.


    Noble Phantasm
    Sukracharya: 200 Weapons of the Demon of Clarity
    Anti-Unit, A++
    A Phantasm symbolizing Archer’s skill in weaponry. She is famed for mastering countless weapons of various heroes, such as the weapons of Karna, Arjuna, and even her own enemy, Rama. She shows clear mastery of these tools, but few of them play an integral part in her legend. They cannot be summoned as her own Phantasms as she was not famed for mastering any individual weapon, but rather “the weapons of countless heroes and gods”.
    Archer is able to wield the weapons of other heroes as her own. Once she knows a weapon’s name, she is able to manifest her own version of that weapon. Defying common sense, this is not a case of stealing or copying the weapon of another, but rather tapping into an ability she held all along. Weapons brought forth in this manner are given the label “Chandrahas”, after the demon sword of her family. It is treated as Rank Down compared to the original, however it gains an increased rank in Anti-Divinity and takes the shape most suited to Archer’s current class. She can only use this Phantasm with weapons and armaments; abilities which do not have a physical form cannot be used.
    Nikumbhila Yagna: Prayer to the Mother Goddess
    Anti-Unit, B
    A blessing (curse) granted to Archer by Lord Brahma, the creator deity. After capturing Indra, Meghanada was approached by Lord Brahma who offered her a wish in exchange for Indra’s freedom. Meghanada wished for immortality, however granting such power was forbidden. Instead, Brahma offered her complete invulnerability during battle, so long as she performed a yagna (prayer) beforehand. The yagna involves worshipping a sacred flame while discarding all weapons, a period of vulnerability which ultimately led to her demise.
    The prayer must be performed every day before sunrise, and its power is dispelled the following day upon sunrise should the ritual fail to be completed. Once it is complete no ordinary weapon or attack would have any effect on Archer. While she can still be harmed by an activated Noble Phantasm, even at low health the chance of killing her is close to zero. It can only be truly countered by preventing a successful prayer in the first place.
    Normally she would also gain a chariot and various other abilities for completing the prayer, however due to her class these are unavailable.
    Brahma Danda: That Which Was Borrowed Returns to Its Creator
    Elimination, EX
    A divine staff, the ultimate tool of Lord Brahma. Meghanada was never shown to posses this in life, however she was stated to have “the ultimate weapon of Lord Brahma”. Due to a misconception about the Brahma Danda’s usage, she has lost the original “ultimate weapon” and gained this instead.
    The Phantasm is based on the premise that at the beginning of the universe there was only one, and all things originate from that one. The Hindus called it Brahman, the Church calls it God, Magi call it the Root. It functions by opening a path to that Original One and returning that which opposes Archer to its origin.
    It is the ultimate tool in Hindu mythology, capable of absorbing even the strongest weapons. However, it was created specifically as a defensive tool, made to prevent the divine weapons from destroying the universe. As a result, it will only absorb weapons and magic used against its master; it cannot be used offensively.
    It is hypothetically possible to overwhelm the Brahma Danda, however it would take an attack containing the total sum of the entire multiverse, across all time, plus one. Maintaining a path to the Root requires extreme amounts of mana, so using this for an extended period of time is impossible for Archer. Despite its nature, Akasha will correct the error of “a hero without their weapon” once the Brahma Danda has been removed from the equation (once Archer has been defeated).

    Lore
    The child of the demon king, Ravana. Ravana was monster whose power could influence even the Aristotles, beings which lack the common sense of Earth and thus should know nothing of the concept of "fear". Using this influence, he made his wish of having "a child whose power surpassed his own" come true.
    From a young age she trained with the demon of wisdom and clarity, learning how to use countless weapons as well as the nature of Karma and Dharma. Following theseteachings she led a mostly pious life. However, above all else she swore loyalty to her father.

    At some point, she managed to conquer all of Heaven and took Indra, the king of the gods, as her hostage. She was then approached by Lord Brahma, the creator deity, who granted her the blessing of "invincibility in battle so long as you pray" in exchange for Indra's release.

    When Ravana kidnapped Rama's wife, Meg chided him but agreed to fight. She managed to single-handedly defeat Rama and his army 3 times, though each time they were revived by external forces. In the end, a relative revealed to Rama the weakness of the prayer. She was dishonorably attacked while praying, creating an opening in her defense. Nonetheless, she tried to fight Rama with weapons she'd taken from the gods, but the arrows she fired would redirect themselves to avoid him. Sensing that Rama was abnormal, she asked her father to surrender. When he refused, she continued to fight Rama and his men until she was unceremoniously killed.

    Personality
    Archer is a cold and emotionless being. She obeys her master's commands unflinchingly and unwaveringly without personal feelings or hesitation. She could be compared to a robot. While she desires to live peacefully with those around her, her personal feelings always come second to the orders of the master. If she had one wish for the Grail, it would be "to have a friend."

    Her combat style is "kill them quickly", but in failing that it becomes "absolute defense followed by absolute offense". She prefers to defeat the opponent without having to rely on her Noble Phantasms. However, against an exceptional enemy she will first goad them into using their Noble Phantasm with her Yagna, absorb it with the Brahma Danda, and finally use their own weapon against them. There are few holes in this tactic, but using it excessively is a pain. She has a horrible matchup against Servants like Gilgamesh or Emiya, who can continue firing weapons until she runs out of energy for the Brahma Danda.


    Ruler

    Servant Ruler
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Alternative Class: Caster, Berserker

    Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
    Origin: German History



    Stats
    Strength: E
    Endurance: D
    Agility: D
    Mana: E-
    Luck: E
    Noble Phantasm: ---

    Class Skills
    True Name Discernment B:
    A skill Granted to Rulers. During a direct encounter, a Servant's true name and entire status information will be automatically revealed. In regards to Servants with concealment abilities, a Luck Check is required to bypass those abilities.
    ​Independent Manifestation (False) D:
    Rejecting the existence of the Holy Grail, Ruler manifests himself through his own human will.
    ...Is how he would see it. In reality, once he is summoned his existence becomes something completely separate from the Holy Grail War. Though he doesn’t get the resistances and immunities normally associated with this skill, his existence consumes no prana and he can exist without a master for an indefinite amount of time. It is something closer to a high ranking Independent Action than true Independent Manifestation.
    God's Resolution ---:
    A skill of the Ruler class. Grants the power of Command Spells. However, due to his nature this skill is unavailable.
    Magic Resistance ---:
    A skill of the Ruler class. The power of his Absolute Magus Killer skill completely overshadows this.


    Personal Skills
    Absolute Magus Killer EX:
    The absolute rejection of God and his creation. “God cannot harm me, as no God exists to harm me.”
    This skill completely denies the existence of Mystery. Even the highest level Mysteries will fail to manifest in Ruler’s presence. If Tenka Fuba Innovation is athe ultimate sword for slaying gods, then this skill is the ultimate shield.
    Divine or Mysterious abilities will not activate while Ruler is present, and will be completely cancelled in his presence. Beings of a magical nature will struggle to even maintain their existence around Ruler. At this rank, even Magic Circuits will "cease to exist" while he's around, though they will "return" when he leaves. It's to a degree that the Holy Grail can't manifest while he's alive. What kind of a Ruler is this...?
    Monster of the Abyss C:
    The ability to take on the traits of the enemy. He who fights monsters… etc.
    Ruler will take on random skills and aspects of those whom he fights. These changes are permanent, and the longer he fights the more changes will be made. However, due to Absolute Magus Killer, Mysteries are not able to be replicated.
    Innocent Monster ---:
    Having been declared a Saint of Satanism and an avatar of the god of wisdom, Ruler qualifies for this skill. He should be able to channel unholy magic, but since he absolutely denies the existence of such phenomena he is absolutely unable to. Any benefits or weaknesses caused this skill have been nullified.
    Noble Phantasm
    The Book of Thoth: Tarot of the Egyptians
    ---,---
    A mystical book gained through his occult ties. Of course it's worthless to him. He might as well throw it away upon summoning.

    Lore
    A 19th century scholar and philosopher. He is most famous for his ideas on existentialism, nihilism, and postmodernism, despite living nearly a century before such ideas became popular. He believed that God was simply a crutch to support human morality. It is easy to force people to abide by the law if they are threatened with eternal damnation. It's easy to sway people if you promise them eternal happiness. He famously declared that “God is dead”. His hope is that humans would one day become the Ubermensch, beings which lived by their own morals rather than morals instructed upon them.

    Despite being a vehement denier of the supernatural, his anti-religious views rung with the founders of modern satanism. Aleister Crowley, occultist and father of satanism, went so far as to dub him a Gnostic Saint and an avatar of Thoth, the god of wisdom. He became worshiped as a prophet. He is an anomaly, transformed into a heroic spirit by the most wicked people in the world.

    He just barely qualifies for the ruler class; he is technically a Christian Saint (as Satanism is derived from Christianity), he has no desire for the Holy Grail (as he denies its existence), and he is a neutral party.

    If he had a wish for the Grail... well, it doesn't exist anyway.

    Personality
    Ruler's ultimate dream is to witness, or become, the Ubermensch, one who lives by their own moral code rather than one of God or society. He emits a positive energy, however he is extremely eccentric and in general a pain to deal with. He usually tries to do what's right, but his definitions of "right" and "wrong" are completely different from those of modern humans.

    His fighting style "start with the small-fry then move on to the boss". His stats are abysmal, so he has a hard time engaging in direct combat at first. His Magus Killer helps with this by removing Mysteries, but a Holy Swordsman without the "Holy" part is still a Swordsman, where Ruler is an untrained philosopher. However, thanks to his Monster of the Abyss, his skills and parameters will improve as the war goes on. By fighting weaker Servants early on, he can gain the skills necessary to take on stronger Servants. If given enough time, he can reach a level beyond even legends like Heracles or Gilgamesh.


    Saver

    Servant Saver
    Venus of Hohle Fels

    Alignment: True Neutral
    Origin: Prehistory



    Stats
    Strength: A
    Endurance: A
    Agility: A
    Mana: A
    Luck: A
    Noble Phantasm: D

    Class Skills
    Counter Hero B:
    Reduces the parameters of 'heroes' that the Servant faces in combat by two ranks. For Saver, it is less effective against Servants with the “Earth” or “Star” attributes.
    Charisma EX:
    A composite Skill consisting of a person's charm as well as the natural talent to command or unify an army or country. Increases the ability of allies during group battles.
    A truly limitless charisma. Her radiance will touch the souls of anyone she comes in contact with, be them ally, enemy, or bystander. It is the power of humanity's greatest idol.


    Personal Skills
    Proto-Goddess EX:
    A skill corresponding to Divinity. It represents the being that is the most perfect, human-like human in existence. Ironically, despite being the exact opposite of Divinity, they have similar results.
    Ultimate One (Mankind) C:
    A skill denoting one's status as an Ultimate One. By receiving backup from Alaya, she can make her parameters slightly higher than those of her enemy.
    Saver is the perfect manifestation of humanity's will. In a way, she can be considered the Ultimate One of Alaya. However, her rank in this skill is lower than that of a true Aristotles.
    She is capable of toggling this skill on and off at will.
    Ideal Self A-:
    The being who represents everything humanity aspires to be. Saver can receive any non-unique skill of any rank at her discretion. However, she is unable to interfere with the lives of men by any means, making this skill less valuable than it seems.


    Noble Phantasm
    Geisenklosterle: Flute of the Idol
    Anti-Army, D
    A flute made of bone, it allows Saver to perform her single purpose: to give people hope and inspiration. Anyone who hears the flute's song, be them ally or enemy, will be reminded of the thing that they're fighting for. Its effects vary depending on the individual. Those with strong wills, who have remained virtuous, will receive an effect similar to Battle Continuance. This isn't a magical ability; it's simply the natural result of "remembering the thing that gives you hope". Those who have strayed from their path, however, will lose all motivation to continue fighting. Seeing what they've become, they will wish only for repentance. It is a tool that is incredibly effective against corrupt Servants, such as "Alters" or Angra Mainyu, though it will work on anyone who has lost sight of themselves.

    Lore
    An idol whose true name has long since been forgotten, she was named "Venus" by modern archaeologists who found 40,000 year old depictions of her. She represents everything humanity ever wanted to be, the "ideal human". She is among the oldest Heroic Spirits in existence, predating even the King of Heroes (though there is someone older who represents humanity's fears).

    The gods of old were natural phenomenon given sentience due to human worship. While thunder has existed since the dawn of the world, it did not become "Zeus" until humans gave it that name. In this way, Venus predates even the gods themselves. She comes from a time before humans were capable of worship or prayer, back when they knew only of fear and desire. In this sense she can be considered a "Proto-Goddess".

    Venus is an ideal figure that humans aspire to be like. "I want to be strong, like her. I want to be fertile, like her. I want to have plenty of food, like she does." She was not worshiped the way a god is. No one expected her to come down and fill their bowls or to save them from beasts. Rather, she was meant to be an idol which people strive to become.

    However, the world is a cruel place. Humans were incapable of making their dreams a reality on their own. Eventually, their desires turned into wishes. "If I pray to the mother goddess, she will give us a good crop. If I sacrifice to the thunder god, he will spare us from destruction. If I follow the ways of the Lord, I will reach happiness." Eventually, humans began ascribing even their own accomplishments to the divine. An idol who can only remind people of what they don't have stood no chance against the gods who would grant these wishes. She is a Saver who can't save even a single person. And so, memories of the proto-goddess gradually faded away.

    In modern times, humans have all but abandoned the gods and strive for their own ideals. In a way, the ideology she symbolized has made a resurgence. However, the Venus herself died long ago.

    Personality
    As one who is incapable of interfering by any means, even speech is impossible for Saver. Humans will project their ideal figure onto her, and that will be what they see her personality as. Whether she has a soul of her own can never be known.

    She has no real fighting style, as she is incapable of fighting. Her only ability is to provide motivation.

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    Elizabeth I: I'll be blunt, I don't like it.


    1. She shouldn't have Divinity, there have been a few (holy) virgin figures in Fate that don't have such a skill - Exhibit A: Jeanne and besides the reason she never got with anyone in the first place was because she wouldn't have to transfer any of her power to her hypothetical husband.
    2. Golden Rule is iffy at best as there have been a number of wealthy figures who haven't had such a skill. Unless you're going for a character like Chacha with her variant who used other people's money for it. Anyways, England had to claw it's way out of economic depression after the black death had Henry VIII wasting tons of resources like the fat lummox that he was.
    3. Determination of Steel isn't particularly fitting either as all the royals were backstabbing each other in England.
    4. Curtana isn't fitting as a Noble Phantasm either, as a ceremonial weapon loads of kings and queens have had it and it's not like she has any strong connection to the sword in comparison to anybody else in the monarchy.
    5. Leviathan is admittedly a good take on the NP but EX Rank? Really?
    6. No reference to how in the nasuverse that Francis Drake was Queen Elizabeth in disguise?

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    @TresserT
    Hey, welcome to the forums.
    All these sheets are interesting and well-done, congrats.

    1. Rider. This Cinderella sheet certainly sounds like an archetypal disney princess, I especially like his 3rd personal skill, a "plot armor".

    2. Archer. This one is appropriately OP, I assume that her 1st NP is some sort of mini-GOB? But I'm curious why she's an Archer, her IA skill sounds unecessary and there's little indicating a 'projectile weapon', except for maybe the 1st NP. Overall a really nice sheet.

    3. Ruler. This one is really... unique, but it's a good sheet overall.

    4. Saver. So, if I understood it correctly, she is the manifestation of the concept of "ideal human"--idol, right? It is honestly a really nice sheet though, I especially like her NP.

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    Thank you.

    For Archer, she's that way because she's from Hindu mythology where almost every weapon is a projectile weapon. I could have gone like Karna or Rama, but both felt kind of weird to me. Both were clearly Archers that were forced into a different class. Her Noble Phantasms are all either defensive or support types, so they can't really be used to define her class. Her main method of fighting is the bow, though.

    Her first Noble Phantasm isn't really Gate of Babylon. It's something like this- she can't use Brahmastra. She sees Karna use Brahmastra. Now she can use Brahmastra, and in fact she mastered it a long time ago and could use it all along. It's basically copying the other person's Noble Phantasm, but due to the lore of "she mastered all these hundreds of weapons as a kid" it's not copying, flavorwise.

    Saver is exactly as you said. The manifestation of the ideal human. Of course, she can't actually do anything because she's just an idol. She's only good for her Phantasm and looking pretty.
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    Elizabeth I: I'll be blunt, I don't like it.


    1. She shouldn't have Divinity, there have been a few (holy) virgin figures in Fate that don't have such a skill - Exhibit A: Jeanne and besides the reason she never got with anyone in the first place was because she wouldn't have to transfer any of her power to her hypothetical husband.
    2. Golden Rule is iffy at best as there have been a number of wealthy figures who haven't had such a skill. Unless you're going for a character like Chacha with her variant who used other people's money for it. Anyways, England had to claw it's way out of economic depression after the black death had Henry VIII wasting tons of resources like the fat lummox that he was.
    3. Determination of Steel isn't particularly fitting either as all the royals were backstabbing each other in England.
    4. Curtana isn't fitting as a Noble Phantasm either, as a ceremonial weapon loads of kings and queens have had it and it's not like she has any strong connection to the sword in comparison to anybody else in the monarchy.
    5. Leviathan is admittedly a good take on the NP but EX Rank? Really?
    6. No reference to how in the nasuverse that Francis Drake was Queen Elizabeth in disguise?
    I mean, i get what is your point but:
    1- the image of her as a holy virgin is very important to her legend, if it do not falls under divinity, than it will have to be there in some way or form (maybe a "virginity" skill? Thats a pun by the way).
    2- maybe golden rule is to high? But her era was branded as "golden" afterwards so i dont know.
    3- yes, there was backstabing everywhere, but the point is that while other leaders would fall, she retains her power until the end of her life, i even metion in her lore session.
    4- curtana is not a weapon, thats the point. Thats way it works the way it works. Also, it is something that belongs to the monarch, i imagine that would be like a shared np betwen all england king/queens, but it dos not takes her right to use it.
    5- Its EX because i can think of a way to measure the combined wish and faith of a whole nation, thats whats EX means right? To big to quantify.
    6- i did not know (or maybe i just dont remenber) of this, i would certanly choose a different faceclaim if i knew


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    FWIW I used Cortana in my Victoria sheet.
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    EX just means it doesn't fit into the ranking system. Usually 'too great' but in a conceptual level. Btw Excalibur ia formed from the hopes of all humanity. Rank A++




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    You guys have no idea how long I've been waiting for a Nietzche sheet. Surprised by the lack of any Ubermensch related NP/ability though.

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    The Ubermensch was more or less just "a human who lives by their own rules instead of by rules forced upon them by a higher power or society" when Nietzsche came up with the idea. Nazis took the idea of a super human and ran with it, but originally it was basically just a type of personality. I didn't want to use the nazi version, and I wasn't really sure how to turn "lives by their own morals instead of the morals of god" into an ability.

    Though now that I'm saying it aloud, I feel like something cool could come out of that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TresserT View Post
    The Ubermensch was more or less just "a human who lives by their own rules instead of by rules forced upon them by a higher power or society" when Nietzsche came up with the idea. Nazis took the idea of a super human and ran with it, but originally it was basically just a type of personality. I didn't want to use the nazi version, and I wasn't really sure how to turn "lives by their own morals instead of the morals of god" into an ability.

    Though now that I'm saying it aloud, I feel like something cool could come out of that lol
    I probably would've made it a "superhuman" ability like you said that majorly buffs all his stats (basically going Super Saiyan, in other words), with the "independent from higher powers" aspect covered by negating any abilities used against him derived from the concept of a higher power or divinity. Though you pretty much covered that already with his Absolute Magus Killer Skill.

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    Bressieux: Daneel, a part of me thought it was gonna be another Chiyou sheet at first (not that I'm complaining). A very unorthodox Assassin much like the Yamata-no-Orochi I posted the other day except this one is based around group battles. That combined with her tenancy for ignoring the master for the cries of any woman is also very interesting from a narrative perspective as well. The wait built up anticipation and it was met, looking forward to the next instalment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I probably would've made it a "superhuman" ability like you said that majorly buffs all his stats (basically going Super Saiyan, in other words), with the "independent from higher powers" aspect covered by negating any abilities used against him derived from the concept of a higher power or divinity. Though you pretty much covered that already with his Absolute Magus Killer Skill.
    I've been waiting in the shadows, trying to come up with ways to make more modern philosophers work as Servants... none of them are any good, I'm sorry. Although I feel that the entire conception of Nietzsche's thought as a "superhuman" (I was considering doing Zarathustra as a Saver, it's a stretch) is inaccurate, maybe something to do with being free from the "conventional moral restraints", which could be changed to some kind of reprogramming a la Derisive Heart of Steel but on steroids

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    Leviathan: the queen's two bodies(anti-fortress: A+):
    The crystallization of saber's rulling method, body politic, and named after the book writen by thomas hobbes.
    When activated, saber colect the wishes and faith of the people into herself, gaining an imense height and strength. She can reach as high as a 1000 meters, increasing her Str and End rank to EX, but decreesing her Agi to E. This noble phantasm cost a good amount of mana and would usualy strain the body and mind beyond a breaking point, but saber can endure thanks to her "Determination of steel" skill.
    I don't get it, why does she have something related to Leviathan, why? What's the justification? I can't see any link apart from Leviathan being about a similar kind of rule, but then couldn't any strong Monarch have that as a Noble Phantasm, in which case that seems like something Arturia would have, I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    You guys have no idea how long I've been waiting for a Nietzche sheet. Surprised by the lack of any Ubermensch related NP/ability though.
    I was going to do one but it ended up being too much work.

    I like this one, though. Odd choice on the NP front imo but the skill stuff is all pretty excellent. Oh, and welcome to the forum TresserT.

    Quote Originally Posted by sherlock1110 View Post
    I've been waiting in the shadows, trying to come up with ways to make more modern philosophers work as Servants... none of them are any good, I'm sorry. Although I feel that the entire conception of Nietzsche's thought as a "superhuman" (I was considering doing Zarathustra as a Saver, it's a stretch) is inaccurate, maybe something to do with being free from the "conventional moral restraints", which could be changed to some kind of reprogramming a la Derisive Heart of Steel but on steroids


    Mhmm. One doesn’t become the ubermensh by going to the gym or something like that, it’s kind of like a philosophical state.

    I probably would have looked through Zarathustra for a NP for Nietzsche, but who knows what.
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