Lol, that actually makes the most sense.
Lol, that actually makes the most sense.
Originally Posted by Deathhappens
The only kind of vampire who would actually care about that would be a vampire incel though.
so Roa
pretty much, lol
If a vampire has to worry about anything regarding their victim, it would be how their diet affects the taste of their blood or something like that. Only someone's who's already got a weird obsession with the celibacy of others would look at their victim and think "man, this one's not a virgin. What a bummer."
TBF I wouldn't want the sandwich I'm about to eat possibly contain AIDS
HIV can be passed down from mother to child and also be acquired via non-sexual ways.
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And vampires are already undead, how would a virus that attacks the immuno-defense system affect them in any way whatsoever?
In Vampire the Masquerade, if you feed nonlethally, you can spread diseases around.
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Ah ok, then I guess Arach kept one vial.
don't quote me on this
Pretty sure thats a flaw you can take in 20th anni edition too. That diseases fester in your mouth. Though it's been a while since I looked at it.
Pretty sure the virgin blood idea stemmed from classic vampire tropes like Dracula. Why did Bram Stoker included this concept into his story? Who knows. Perhaps it may have something to do with the society he lived in during his time. Many writers from then on begun paying homage to this archetype in their stories.
I don't think it was mentioned in Dracula. Just that Dracula prefered the blood of women. I'd have to reread again. If it was mentioned then it was a throw away line and not part of the plot. The women in the book are supposed to be upright victorian women of purity so Mina and Lucy were virgins anyway, even if adaptations keep showing lucy off as a horny degenerate. All cause she laments in the book she can't pick all 3 of her desirable suitors but I digress. Given that in more modern stories vampires are often tied to sexual taboo and are creatures who corrupt their victims it makes sense that they would prefer to prey upon those who would be considered "pure", which virgins in supernatural horror stories are normally portrayed as such, cause symbolism and metaphors.
Do vampires hunt children for their virginal blood or does it *also* have to be someone sexually mature
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Kids are hors d'oeurves.
I think the brides of Dracula actually drank children's blood... or something like that.
Yeah.. I also don't remember if it was ever mentioned to be virgin only in Dracula. Like you said, the women that Dracula preyed on just happened to also be virgins so it could've been mere coincidence. Corrupting the "pure virgins" could be a decent explanation, and the symbolism/metaphor could refer to the sexually repressed society of the time. But anyways, vampire fiction stories have always been soaked in sexual undertones from the very beginning.
In the early chapters, there's a bit where the brides are going to feed on Harker, but Drac gives them a kidnapped child instead because he wants to keep Harker alive a little bit longer.
Dunno who else they might've eaten; I only got a few chapters in. But I remember that much because it was creepy as hell.
O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed you have not already collapsed in ruin.
Presumably men they lured into the castle with their corpsly charms
The virgin thing has to do with the first vampire novels being published during the Victorian period. Modern vampire stories can have all the sexual undertones they want without placing so much emphasis on virginity.
Y'know what's a classic vampire trait that we should explore more instead? The bit about vampires only being able to enter a house if they're invited.
I've mostly seen that trait used as a joke.
Yea.. I really have no strong feelings about the virginity thing. It was just a little origin history of vampire eroticism being born out of repression that I found interesting. The invitation requirement is a funny trait that wasn't used in Tsukihime. I remember Arcueid slipping into Shiki's home while he was asleep without invitation. Nasu included traits such as no reflection, no crossing running water, and... maybe that's about it. I think Arcueid was also somewhat allergic to garlic? Well, of course there's also bloodlust but that's a must when it comes to anything vampiric. Everything else can be switched, removed, and played around with.
Buffy did a bunch of stuff with it. Stuff like characters dying because they had a welcome mat out. Or that time in Angel when he's leaning again an open door while his human friends search a victims apartment, only for him to fall through when the victim dies on the operating table.
I miss good Buffy/Angel. There was a bunch of heavy handed allegory episodes in the first few seasons, but when it got going it was great.
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There are a few other traits included though:
- Hypnosis = Mystic Eyes
- Turning into animals = Familiar
- Disappearing into mist = Super old and strong vampires can do it, but most of the time it's just a puppet being remotely controlled with magic, so when you cut off the connection it turns into mist and disappears
The interesting thing about mirrors is that the problem isn't the mirror itself, but silver, which is a shared weakness classic vampires have with werewolves. Old mirrors used silver backing to achieve reflection so a vampire wouldn't show up on it (technically speaking, werewolves also wouldn't be reflected on those mirrors, it's just not a common part of their mythos). Modern mirrors use other materials such as bronze, aluminum, or copper. So technically a vampire would be able to see their reflection on the surface of a modern mirror.
The same logic applies to cameras: photographic film has silver in it, so a vampire wouldn't appear on a photo taken by a non-digital camera, but they wouldn't have any issue with digital cameras.
(An alternative explanation as to why vampires have no reflection is that they're dead and therefore have no soul, which makes no sense cause it implies inanimate objects have souls)
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