Super Tsukihime Remake Spoiler Thread

[Comun]

Ciel day 9, last scene.

次は何を拾い上げたものか
研究半ばで終わった課題は山ほど残っている。今回の『不老』は逆行、あるいは退化そのものだっ た。
では次のテーマは『継承』にしてみよう。
人間は優れた遺伝子提供者の遺伝子と遺伝子を配合する事で、より優れた因子を持つ子孫を産みだ していく。
それをより端的に、一切の無駄なく行えないだろうか？

What I picked up this time?
I have a pile of topic where my research ended incomplete.
My recent work on eternal youth turned out to be retrogression, or perhaps degeneration itself.
So I might be going with succession for my next theme.
Humans are always producing superior offspring by mixing their genes with the genes of better providers.
Is there any more direct, more to-the-point way to do this?

[Petrikow]

Would you mind posting the JP text of this dialogue if possible?

I actually think Comun is conflating 3 different events here.

The Roa segment with Nero
The Roa segment about XV
and Roa talking to Mario about immortality.

Nero and Roa discuss immortality, but that's more about Nero finding Roa's immortality flawed, since it relies on humans to keep working.
『……確かに今までの祖にはないアプローチだ。
　しかし、その方法では人間が絶滅した場合、永遠ではなくならないか？
　君の手段には人間の胎児が不可欠だ。外的要因に依存する、という点では死徒の長寿と変わりは ないぞ』
『それでいいんですよ。人間は自分以外の人間がいなければ自己を正しく機能させる事ができませ ん。
　仮に人間が絶滅するのなら、自分だけ生き延びようとする行為そのものが無価値でしょう。
　私の不老不死は、その時点で終わりです』
During the XV segment, Roa says that the "eternal youth" he researched was retrogression, or perhaps degeneration itself.
　生まれつき体が弱かった為、肉体の寿命を延ばす研究に没頭してしまった。不老という一つの成果には辿り着 いたものの、結果は失敗に終わった。永遠の若さというのは、やはり肉体には備わらない。
　次は何を拾い上げたものか。
　研究半ばで終わった課題は山ほど残っている。
　今回の『不老』は逆行、あるいは退化そのものだった。
When talking to Mario, he says that he switched his research to the soul.
「残念ながら。私の研究は魂の分野に切り替わった。
　肉体に関する研究はそれこそ下手の横好きだ。理論だけで実践の域には達していない。
　そんな不確かな儀式は魔術とは呼べない。それは呪いと言うのだ、ベスティーノ」

Still, the statement stands. These things are connected.

[Base]

Roa pretty much believes in Eugenics, how unsurprising for a mage.

[alienncoww]

Much appreciated!

[Baka]

The Ciel route is still living rent free in my head. I just can't get over how good it was. I am so thankful that Nasu deleted the "good" ending from the original and made Shiki more firm against Arc.

[Petrikow]

The Ciel route is still living rent free in my head. I just can't get over how good it was. I am so thankful that Nasu deleted the "good" ending from the original and made Shiki more firm against Arc.

That reminds me.

Was the rainbow motif something that was present in the original? The normal ending title is brand new, I think?

Either way, it was a great theme to tie Ciel's character resolution around.

Calvaria's Star even kind of looks like a rainbow.

[Comun]

There's the story of why the character was named Ciel.

[Petrikow]

There's the story of why the character was named Ciel.

It is at times like this I wish I had the old Tsukihime script at hand.

[AmADo VII]

still a hilarious story how Kinoko mistook the meaning of L'arc en Ciel and gave wrong concept to Arc and Ciel.

[Petrikow]

still a hilarious story how Kinoko mistook the meaning of L'arc en Ciel and gave wrong concept to Arc and Ciel.

My neurons just fired... So that's what Day 9 & 10 is named after.

[Comun]

Arcueid is just a corruption of Alucard.

Ciel was like "She's French and her codename is Bow. What's the French word for bow? Uh, I know from the band name that l'arc in ciel means rainbow, so bow must be ciel."

It was a great mistake to happen, because it spared from having the two heroines names Arcueid and Arc.

[TheSeaDragon]

So, cosidering Noel arcade ending in melty, my theory of her eventually joining a new BAA seems at least possible.

She will check on sacchin, either she saves her, but noel is not strong enought , or sacchin turns her.

[Crown]

imagine a DA Noel + DA Sacchin alliance that breaks as
soon as they start fighting for Shiki's love

[ResidentSeagull]

imagine a DA Noel + DA Sacchin alliance that breaks as
soon as they start fighting for Shiki's love

Turns out Nasu never got rid of Ciel's Good Ending.
He just gave it to Sacchin.

[Base]

Turns out Nasu never got rid of Ciel's Good Ending.
He just gave it to Sacchin.

The difference is Sacchin can probably beat Noel up if she ever pushed her too far. Mad Noel is par of the course for her, mad Sacchin is an experience you don't want to repeat.

[Walnut Sparks]

Arcueid is just a corruption of Alucard.

Where is this stated?

[Crown]

It's a daily message in Kagetsu Tohya. The Ciel and Arc trivia is from the PLUS-DISC extras.

[Base]

I wonder what Arceuid spelled "forwards" would be then? Diuecra?

How would that even be pronounced? Di-U-Ec-Ra? Or Du-Ec-Ra?

[Zork Knight]

Arukaido
Arkuaido

??

[Base]

Arukaido
Arkuaido

??

I was talking about how you pronounce it reversed, like how Alucard reversed is Dracula. Sorry for not being clear enough. That's on me.